New data on response in business to #metoo

JohnAshton said:

So would exclusion, but both applications are not appropriate in American society or really any society that values both men and women, Nithavela.

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JohnAshton said:

Not so obviously. Yes, it would work, but the Graham rule works much, much better.

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JohnAshton said:

I have clearly written time and again that the Covenant is sex-neutral....Fear of the Covenant resides in the head only as a threat.

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AlexDofTX said:

Truth and error are in the mix. It is true that many women have been taken advantage of and that needs to stop. But the error came when women who were not taken advantage of, such as Christine Ford, who was used to smear a godly man, Brett Kavanaugh, for political gain. It is the false accusations that men are fearful of because a climate has developed where the woman is believed without question.

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AlexDofTX said:

I think a double standard lies hidden in your response. Many Christian women understand the temptation they are creating if they dress immodestly therefore avoid creating such temptations with modest apparel. Is it not appropriate, then, for a man to safe guard both himself and the women by precluding such appearances of evil? And if the man knows his own weakness to such temptation, isn't his making an effort to prevent himself from being tempted to be commended?

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AlexDofTX said:

Frankly, at the bottom of this issue lies two other issues that contribute to the problem. Women are being told that careers are more important than motherhood, and inflation that causes the cost of living to rise so much, women are, of necessity forced to work to help the family survive...

When this evil monetary system is removed, and honest money is restored, women won't have to work and can stay home to raise their children.

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JohnAshton said:

Paidiske, I believe after all our communication that you do not want to understand how this works so easily and so well in the workplace.

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JohnAshton said:

Paidiske, I believe after all our communication that you do not want to understand how this works so easily and so well in the workplace.

You are such a treasure here and I admire you, so on this thread I bid you farewell.

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Prodigal Son returns said:

After reading the statement of purpose for this forum I believe that I am free to express my thoughts.
This is a classic example of radical feminism gone wild.

Let's examine some of the acts that are now considered to be sexual harassment.
- Asking a female colleague out after she said no.
A man asks a woman out. She says no cos she's busy. The man asks again two weeks later.
- Commenting on her looks.
The woman goes to the effort of applying make up to look attractive. A man compliments her on her hair or dress.
- Leering or staring.
A man only needs to look at a woman.
- Questions about a woman's private life.
A man asks a woman if she has a partner.
- Brushing up against someone or hugging.
A man accidentally brushes a woman in a crowded lift or gives her a hug after a not seeing her for a while.
- Cracking sexual jokes and comments around a woman.
A man tells a joke. 7 people laugh but one found it offensive.
I heard a definition which states if a woman is uncomfortable then its sexual harassment.

All these acts are harmless and were an acceptable part of human behavior. Not anymore.
The definitions of sexual assault and rape have become very trivial now as well with the usual standard of evidence reduced to her testimony

One must understand the scientific nature of male and female aggression. Males release aggression physically.
Not so females. They release aggression in many passive ways, mentally, psychologically. Her ultimate recourse is to destroy a persons social status. This is scientific fact taken from countless studies as the following video proves.

So the worse thing a man can do is take someones life. The worse thing a woman can do is also take someones life by making a false rape accusation causing lifetime incarceration. Its hard for a man to get away with ending a life but it's easy for a woman to end a life and supported by the justice system.

Some women are simply looking to get rich quick and will make a false accusation. Others might have a disagreement with a man. Still others might want to remove a man because of completion to be promoted. Some might have sex and then regret it and call it rape. And she can make this false claim at any time, even 20-30 years after. So unless you think that all women are fair angels every man is at risk of one day being falsely accused and convicted without evidence.

I know a lot of women love this powerful ability to apply their wrath to destroy a man with the full support of the law. Toxic masculinity is obvious. Toxic femininity is insidious

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Paidiske said:

And there it is; the argument to remove women from the workplace.

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AlexDofTX said:

That is correct. Women were created by God to help men, and to be mothers. We are so brain washed by the world, Christians no longer know God's bottom line regarding raising godly families.

Paul exhorts young men to flee youthful lusts.

2Ti 2:22 Flee also youthful lusts: but follow righteousness, faith, charity, peace, with them that call on the Lord out of a pure heart.​

If a young man wants to raise a godly family, he does not need to have young women around him that could be a temptation away from his wife and children, when his youthful lust is strongest.

A woman can have a career after she raises a family, and when youthful lust is tamed with age.

Do you honestly believe society is better off with divorce and broken homes - including a divorce rate up to half the Christian homes? Do you really believe the world is better off with mothers in the workforce delegating their child rearing to day care centers? Do you really believe the world is better off for the children who have absentee fathers and mothers, as well as being exposed to child predators at the day care centers? If you do, you are not helping the kingdom of God.

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Prodigal Son returns said:

I agree. The difficulty with rape is that it's hard to provide evidence beyond reasonable doubt. A witness can too easily be fixed.
The medical report may tell us that she was indeed penetrated and that his DNA was found in sperm samples. But that doesn't rule out consensual sex.

There is however one piece of evidence that does tip the balance, evidence on her body of physical force being used. A forced rape must involve a struggle. This results in physical evidence of manhandling. Without this evidence there should be no conviction by the letter of the law. Video or audio evidence would also be compelling enough. If a woman is conscious she cannot possibly get raped without this evidence.

The one thing that would fair it all up would be to impose equally penalties for false accusers. If the allegation demands 10 years prison then the false accuser should get 10 years prison. Plotting to destroy someones life through false testimony take months, even years of premeditated plotting and lies, not just a few minutes. Then they would think twice about taking advantage of men through the law.

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Nithavela said:

Which physical evidence would be left if the rapist threatened her with, let's say, a knife?

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Prodigal Son returns said:

Yeah, good point.
There would also be no evidence if he drugged her and raped her in her sleep. It's a crime that's difficult to prove as I said.
Does it then mean that we just take the all allegations as truth now?

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Prodigal Son returns said:

Does it then mean that we just take the all allegations as truth now?

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Nithavela said:

No, it means that we assume innocence until proven guilty and let the courts and experts do their job

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