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the whole problem of being a christian and then not being one can largely be put into this parable and it seems to be mostly resolved by the wisdom therein. right discernment and purity of heart leaves one with the power of "freedom from" and "freedom to be" because they have liberty. which is why I can both hold on and let go. but if someone only sees evil in a thing then they are right for rejecting it and I am most certain that God would be pleased with that.
Luke 5:37-38 (YLT)
5:37 `And no one doth put new wine into old skins, and if otherwise, the new wine will burst the skins, and itself will be poured out, and the skins will be destroyed;
5:38 but new wine into new skins is to be put, and both are preserved together;
we use the language and what is in being that can be used and accepted in order to reach and lift up those that are willing. then the problem of the sins of the fathers affecting the children occurs. so people fall into various pitfalls of outdated camels hair clothing interpretations that were never meant to be taken as the sovereign Lord to begin with, as they were just outward expression that were useful to whatever beings they are useful to. in the process of salvation the sins of the fathers will not affect the children due to a growing spiritual maturity and less stumbling.
in my experience... by existing richly and more fully. by paying more attention. prayer and directedness to God rather than busying yourself with less important things which the majority of the world is caught up in for the majority of the time. personal development. through goodness and truth. by noticing the beings that are always around us, but invisible. but I must note that I find myself more and more to be a micro of the macro reality and thus I am a vital part to it and can not know it without being of it. so I don't count myself as only a creature and I don't put as many limits or restraints on myself as most people do.
sorry to butt in more, your words give me things to reflect upon. what's wrong with having a creative interpretation of what you experience? but many will just use their own religious context to frame their experiences.
I wish more people would cut out "authoritarianism" from their concepts of God. it's so annoying that people pretend they are not the truth (when they have united with or have communion with it) and they act like it is something outside themselves, as something alien from them. people want to bend their knee so much that even truth is now something they must obey rather than it being their very life, experience, and understanding. they are captured by ignorance and the sophistry that their discursive experience and lower aspect gives them.
personalism makes expression of God a very personal and real thing. God as an close other is just finding God in someone else united to the Logos who is the fullness of all souls, who is the super-united becoming expression and end-goal of the experiential world, and true salvation. enlightenment is finding you are yourself united to the divine. thus two main experiences with God is an otherness experience and a sameness experience. negation and positive expression.
whatever measure you limit yourself to is the kind of measure you will receive. there are already certain limits in existing as a limited form. I would try to open up more rather than restrict more but maybe both ways are valid paths.
Luke 5:37-38 (YLT)
5:37 `And no one doth put new wine into old skins, and if otherwise, the new wine will burst the skins, and itself will be poured out, and the skins will be destroyed;
5:38 but new wine into new skins is to be put, and both are preserved together;
we use the language and what is in being that can be used and accepted in order to reach and lift up those that are willing. then the problem of the sins of the fathers affecting the children occurs. so people fall into various pitfalls of outdated camels hair clothing interpretations that were never meant to be taken as the sovereign Lord to begin with, as they were just outward expression that were useful to whatever beings they are useful to. in the process of salvation the sins of the fathers will not affect the children due to a growing spiritual maturity and less stumbling.
in my experience... by existing richly and more fully. by paying more attention. prayer and directedness to God rather than busying yourself with less important things which the majority of the world is caught up in for the majority of the time. personal development. through goodness and truth. by noticing the beings that are always around us, but invisible. but I must note that I find myself more and more to be a micro of the macro reality and thus I am a vital part to it and can not know it without being of it. so I don't count myself as only a creature and I don't put as many limits or restraints on myself as most people do.
sorry to butt in more, your words give me things to reflect upon. what's wrong with having a creative interpretation of what you experience? but many will just use their own religious context to frame their experiences.
I wish more people would cut out "authoritarianism" from their concepts of God. it's so annoying that people pretend they are not the truth (when they have united with or have communion with it) and they act like it is something outside themselves, as something alien from them. people want to bend their knee so much that even truth is now something they must obey rather than it being their very life, experience, and understanding. they are captured by ignorance and the sophistry that their discursive experience and lower aspect gives them.
personalism makes expression of God a very personal and real thing. God as an close other is just finding God in someone else united to the Logos who is the fullness of all souls, who is the super-united becoming expression and end-goal of the experiential world, and true salvation. enlightenment is finding you are yourself united to the divine. thus two main experiences with God is an otherness experience and a sameness experience. negation and positive expression.
whatever measure you limit yourself to is the kind of measure you will receive. there are already certain limits in existing as a limited form. I would try to open up more rather than restrict more but maybe both ways are valid paths.
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