Why Jesus Said that Bread was His Body

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Is everyone aware, Jesus was born in Bethlehem?

BETHLEHEM:
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בֵּית לֶחֶם
bêyth lechem
bayth leh'-khem
House of bread; Beth-Lechem, a place in Palestine: - Beth-lehem.



Mat 2:1
Now when Jesus was born in Bethlehem of Judaea in the days of Herod the king, behold, there came wise men from the east to Jerusalem,

John 6:33
For the bread of God is he which cometh down from heaven, and giveth life unto the world.

John 6:50
This is the bread which cometh down from heaven, that a man may eat thereof, and not die.

John 6:35
And Jesus said unto them, I am the bread of life: he that cometh to me shall never hunger; and he that believeth on me shall never thirst.

John 6:41
The Jews then murmured at him, because he said, I am the bread which came down from heaven.

John 6:48
I am that bread of life.

John 6:51
I am the living bread which came down from heaven: if any man eat of this bread, he shall live for ever: and the bread that I will give is my flesh, which I will give for the life of the world.

Mat. 26:26
And as they were eating, Jesus took bread, and blessed it, and brake it, and gave it to the disciples, and said, Take, eat; this is my body.

Luke 22:19
And he took bread, and gave thanks, and brake it, and gave unto them, saying, This is my body which is given for you: this do in remembrance of me.
 
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Understanding how at the Last Supper Jesus became one with our lost and broken creation. And how by rising from the dead God demonstrated the reality of his promise of new life to the lost and broken.
I like the music in the video. The analogy to a single grain of wheat is confusing to me. Jesus said "this is my body" referring to bread. He wasn't referring to a single grain of wheat. The rest of the video is interesting but not very relevant to the verse with "this is my body" in it.

Isn't it enough that Jesus said "this is my body"? Is it necessary to know "how" in order to believe what he said?
 
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I like the music in the video. The analogy to a single grain of wheat is confusing to me. Jesus said "this is my body" referring to bread. He wasn't referring to a single grain of wheat. The rest of the video is interesting but not very relevant to the verse with "this is my body" in it.

Isn't it enough that Jesus said "this is my body"? Is it necessary to know "how" in order to believe what he said?
The question is not "how" but "What is bread?" It's a deep question but worth thinking about
 
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The question is not "how" but "What is bread?" It's a deep question but worth thinking about
Doubtful. When Christ instituted the sacrament he took ordinary bread and said "this" etc. He then ordered his disciples to eat it.

He certainly was not referring to some metaphysical bread or spiritual, uncorporeal something or other, as opposed to actual bread.
 
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The question is not "how" but "What is bread?" It's a deep question but worth thinking about
Bread is what people eat. It's made from flour, water, salt, and maybe some oil. Flour is made by grinding wheat. It isn't a very deep question really.
 
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Doubtful. When Christ instituted the sacrament he took ordinary bread and said "this" etc. He then ordered his disciples to eat it.

He certainly was not referring to some metaphysical bread or spiritual, uncorporeal something or other, as opposed to actual bread.
Just wondering how you know that.
 
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Is wheat
It's right there in the Gospel account. In fact, all of it is repeated at every Holy Communion service in quite a few churches.
In the beginning, God created seeds for the purpose of becoming a living being. Using seeds as food came later and repurposed God's original plan. A seed is designed to become a plant and every part of the seed functions for that purpose. Using seed as food disregards its purpose, takes what it can and discards the rest. God did not design life to be wasted. Can you see the parallels between the seed that died to be our food and Jesus who died for us?
 
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Understanding how at the Last Supper Jesus became one with our lost and broken creation. And how by rising from the dead God demonstrated the reality of his promise of new life to the lost and broken.

The Lord’s Supper (bread & wine) symbolizes our acceptance of the body (bread) and blood (wine) of Jesus, spilled and broken for us.

Matthew 26:17-30
John 6:48-63
John 13:1-17
1 Corinthians 10:16-17

1 Corinthians 11:23-30
Revelation 3:20
 
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The Lord’s Supper (bread & wine) symbolizes our acceptance of the body (bread) and blood (wine) of Jesus, spilled and broken for us.

Matthew 26:17-30
John 6:48-63
John 13:1-17
1 Corinthians 10:16-17

1 Corinthians 11:23-30
Revelation 3:20
I don't have any problem with this . . . except Jesus used the word "is". He didn't use the word "like" which he could have.
 
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It's right there in the Gospel account. In fact, all of it is repeated at every Holy Communion service in quite a few churches.

Exactly. Christ "this" meant exactly that, that His Real Presence is in the bread
 
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Exactly. Christ "this" meant exactly that, that His Real Presence is in the bread
Yes . . but Jesus didn't say "now this bread is my body". That is the bread was his body before he spoke. It was his body and is his body now. Jesus was stating a fact and not working a miracle.
 
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Yes . . but Jesus didn't say "now this bread is my body". That is the bread was his body before he spoke. It was his body and is his body now. Jesus was stating a fact and not working a miracle.

The Real Presence is a miracle :).
 
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Yes . . but Jesus didn't say "now this bread is my body". That is the bread was his body before he spoke. It was his body and is his body now. Jesus was stating a fact and not working a miracle.
Has anyone but you ever come up with this theory?
 
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OK, would it be a deep question if you had to die to be food so the wheat could live?
I do not know what that string of words means. I do not plan to die to be food. How would me dying make wheat live?
 
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I'd say yes. How can I believe in what I don't know I'm believing in?
If you need to know how the bread is Christ's body before you will believe what he says about it do you also need to know how the Trinity is 3 persons and one God before you will believe it?
 
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