Why are animal sacrifices done in the Millennial Temple

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So scripture doesn't say what it says?

The scripture doesn't say what we want it to say. That's why a system of rules is used to interpret scripture.

Concerning end times, covenant theology has tossed those rules aside.

We read in Rev. 20 that 2 resurrections are separated by 1000 years. that Satan is locked up for this period of time. Then some say the 1000 years is not literal but spiritual.

Hogwash, you bear the burden of presenting proof.
 
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Ok, let me take a look >

Yes, He says He will take priests and Levites, and their name will remain >

"as the new heavens and the new earth" "shall remain".

But it does not say "while" the new heavens and new earth remain. I just noticed this.

these priests and Levites will be taken out of the Faithful Remnant who has become the Royal nation of priests Israel had always been intended to become. This people was to be God's living and breathing object lesson to the rest of the world. The apostate portion of Israel has taken the Way of Cain the rejection of the Lamb of God Yeshua/ Jesus. There has always been a faithful remnant within Israel just as we now have become the faithful remnant among the Gentiles. Having said this there continues to be the faithful remnant in present day Israel and when Messiah's feet touch down on the Mount of Olives it will split in two opening a valley for the remnant to come out of mystery Babylon. When the remnant has come out she will be 144,000 strong and be equipped for the different orders of service in the Millennial Temple that the Gentile nations are called to come up to and this faithful remnant will be those who animal sacrifice will show how every sacrifice pointed to and revealed the WOrk of the Passover Lamb of God.

We are likened to being little children and with small children pictures and words combine to help them learn to read and these shadows of the good and true realities of our Passover Lamb of God.
 
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The millennial world will be utopian...... but people will by then understand how the sacrifice of Messiah Yeshua -Jesus on our behalf made that possible.

Right....And they will "understand how the sacrifice of Jesus made that possible" by being required by Jesus Himself to render blood animal sacrifices directly at His feet for Atonement of their Sins and acceptance by Him? Thus rendering His perfect Sacrifice Null and void?

That's some Utopia right there.
 
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In my imagination of the future, Jesus and the saints are on Earth in glorified bodies with no need for sacrifice

Christians today, Mortals who are not in Glorified Bodies, have no need for Sacrifice either, right?

but there will be multitudes born in mortality. With Christ ruling a perfect, peaceful world, there will be no crime, so no understanding of sin.

At least you admit this is born from your imagination, because scripture certainly dos not support such a vision.

Scripture teaches that the heart of Man is wicked above all else, even Satan (Jeremiah 17:9) and that each person is tempted by their own desires. (James 1:14)

Satan's presence is UNNECESSARY for Human Beings to continue in Sin.

Sin is in Mans Nature, we are ALL born Sinners, and you appear to affirm that in the "millennium" Mortals will continue to be born IN SIN...simply removing Satan will do nothing to prevent Human beings from Sinning. Human beings are and will continue to be fully capable of committing even the Gravest of Sins all by themselves, apart from ANY Satanic Influence.
 
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Revelation 20:6 - Blessed and holy [is] he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.

Revelation 20:4 - And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and [I saw] the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received [his] mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.

I guess when did this 1,000 year reign with Christ happen if it has already been fulfilled or is this wrong? I believe John was not only an apostle but the disciple Jesus loved.

It's in the future after the 1st resurrection and that happens when Jesus returns.

1 Thessalonians 4

The Return of the Lord

13Brothers, we do not want you to be uninformed about those who sleep in death, so that you will not grieve like the rest, who are without hope. 14For since we believe that Jesus died and rose again, we also believe that God will bring with Jesus those who have fallen asleep in Him.

15By the word of the Lord, we declare to you that we who are alive and remain until the coming of the Lord will by no means precede those who have fallen asleep. 16For the Lord Himself will descend from heaven with a loud command, with the voice of an archangel, and with the trumpet of God, and the dead in Christ will be the first to rise. 17After that, we who are alive and remain will be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air. And so we will always be with the Lord.

18Therefore encourage one another with these words
 
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Christians today, Mortals who are not in Glorified Bodies, have no need for Sacrifice either, right?

Correct, but the question is about people during the millennium (if that happens) who are born during that time. However, Christians today still need to repent when we realize we sin.

At least you admit this is born from your imagination, because scripture certainly dos not support such a vision.

Scripture teaches that the heart of Man is wicked above all else, even Satan (Jeremiah 17:9) and that each person is tempted by their own desires. (James 1:14)

Also correct, but not in context of the OP. Romans clearly tells us that the law was introduced to increase the awareness of sin.

Rom 5:13 (For until the law sin was in the world: but sin is not imputed when there is no law.
Rom 5:14 Nevertheless death reigned from Adam to Moses, even over them that had not sinned after the similitude of Adam's transgression, who is the figure of him that was to come.​

Sin existed before Moses codified the law, but with no imputation of sin, hardness of heart blinded men to their sins.

Now, if Christ and the Saints (all believers in Christ, not the Catholic declarations) are on Earth in immortal, glorified bodies ruling for a thousand years, will people know they are sinners? Years ago, the Lord dropped into my spirit the realization that Adam did not name the animals as a task. Instead, God was testing him to see if Adam could discern that the animals were not suitable as mates. Why? Because the woman would look different from the man and he had to see past the outward appearance of the woman to realize that she was bone of his bones and flesh of his flesh. Christ and the Church in glory will not look like mortal humanity. We have a small glimpse of the difference in appearance in Revelations 1. Paul tells us 1 Cor 15 that we will not look the same when we are glorified in that a seed does not look like the plant that grows (1 Cor 15:36 & 37.)

So those mortals born in the millennium will need to be taught both what sin is and the need for death for atonement. Satan's release will be the test to see who understood and who did not.
 
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lol that thought has passed my mind more than once. Nazarite’s time in God’s economy OT times ended at the inauguration of Kingship, (other than the prophets) and started again with John the Baptist so is completely in effect for those who follow Jesus of Nazareth.

Ok Lorene, but are we sure that there's a connection between the two?
Nazarite or Nazarene?

Jesus sure wasn't a Nazarite.
 
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Right....And they will "understand how the sacrifice of Jesus made that possible" by being required by Jesus Himself to render blood animal sacrifices directly at His feet for Atonement of their Sins and acceptance by Him? Thus rendering His perfect Sacrifice Null and void?

That's some Utopia right there.


I like what Grant Jeffrey wrote about this:

"The Sacrificial System Will Continue

One of the most perplexing ideas to students of Scripture is the idea that God intends that the annual feasts, along with animal sacrifice, will continue into the Millennium. Many Christians who have studied the prophetic portions of Zechariah 14, Isaiah 66, and Ezekiel 40 - 48, which clearly describe these Millennial worship ordinations, are confused by the idea. They ask, "Didn't the sacrifice of Christ eliminate animal sacrifices forever?"

............"Only the complete sacrifice of Jesus could ever totally atone for our sins. However, God clearly demanded the sacrifices from Adam to Christ. Those sacrifices were acts of obedience to the direct command of God, as well as acknowledgements of one's own personal sinfulness and need for God's forgiveness. Animal sacrifices covered the sins of the people temporarily until the prophesied Messiah would come and offer Himself once and for all as the necessary atonement for sin. If animal sacrifice can never atone for sin, why would God allow Israel to resume such sacrifice in the Third Temple, prior to Armageddon, and then demand that Israel continue such sacrifice in the Millennium? There are two reasons why I believe this is true."

First, the early Jewish - Christian Church continued to offer sacrifices in the first century.".......



.......Second, New Testament writers used the legal sacrificial system to illustrate very important points concerning Christ's sacrifice on the Cross.......

..... These examples of the way early Jewish believers used God's law to teach great love when He sacrificed His only Son on the cross will be repeated during the Millennium." (Grant R. Jeffrey, Messiah, War in the Middle East and the Road to Armageddon, page 317, 318 and 319)
 
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Scripture tells us that the Millennial Temple will once again have animal sacrifices. Your thoughts

So the Jews can retain grounds for rejecting Jesus.
 
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It looks to me like your original analysis is correct. Paul had not offered sacrifices nor shaved his head when the crowd seized him:

Act 21:23 You must therefore do what we tell you. Four men among us have made a solemn promise. 24 Take them with you, go through the purification ritual with them, and pay the cost of having their heads shaved. Everyone will know there is nothing to those reports about you but that you too live a life in keeping with the Law.

26 The following day Paul took the men with him and went through the purification ritual with them. He entered the temple and publicly announced the completion of the days of purification, when the offering would be presented for each one of them. 27 When the seven days of purification were almost over, the Jews from the province of Asia saw Paul in the temple. Grabbing him, they threw the whole crowd into confusion by shouting,

In numbers 6:13-21, "When the term as a nazirite is completed, the person will be brought to the entrance of the meeting tent 14 and offer a gift to the Lord."

During the ceremony, "The nazirite will shave his ordained head at the meeting tent’s entrance, take the hair from his ordained head, and put it in the fire under the well-being sacrifice."

At the end of the ritual, "Then the priest will raise them as an uplifted offering before the Lord; they are holy to the priest, with the breast of the uplifted offering and the thigh of the gift offering. After this the nazirite may drink wine," and the person is not a Nazirite any longer.

Paul had gone through the purification and was about to go through the ritual when the crowds seized him.

I got it from Nader Mansour, he's an Aus-based SDA with semi-Arian leanings (the horror!). You can look him up on YT, some of his messages are excellent imho.
 
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Correct, but the question is about people during the millennium (if that happens) who are born during that time. However, Christians today still need to repent when we realize we sin.

I see no appreciable difference between that reality now and the millennium.

Also correct, but not in context of the OP. Romans clearly tells us that the law was introduced to increase the awareness of sin.

Rom 5:13 (For until the law sin was in the world: but sin is not imputed when there is no law.
Rom 5:14 Nevertheless death reigned from Adam to Moses, even over them that had not sinned after the similitude of Adam's transgression, who is the figure of him that was to come.​

Sin existed before Moses codified the law, but with no imputation of sin, hardness of heart blinded men to their sins.

Agreed... sort of...
Before the Law, all were condemned to death whether they sinned or not, as Adam's initial sin was imputed to all regardless of any ones individual behavior.

The Law was given to add strength to individual sins, and to add the power to condemn the individual for his or her individual transgressions.

Then Came the Christ who fulfilled the law, made it Obsolete, and It vanished. (Hebrews 8:13)

Now, and forevermore, Human beings are either "in Adam", Just as before the law was given to Moses, and Condemned to Death whether they sin or not, or they are "in Christ" saved even though they are sinners.

Individual Sins are no longer the measuring Stick God uses to determine ones salvation status, in fact, ONLY sinners Get saved.

Christ and the Church in glory will not look like mortal humanity.

Will they/we look like Moses and Elijah did on the mount at the transfiguration when they appeared in their glorified Bodies??

The disciples saw them in their glory, even recognized exactly who they were, yet that vision in no way prevented them form understanding that they (disciples) were still sinful mortals in need of a savior, so your cause/effect scenario doesn't seem to hold up to the scriptural evidence.

So those mortals born in the millennium will need to be taught both what sin is and the need for death for atonement. Satan's release will be the test to see who understood and who did not.

Where is the evidence that Christ's once for all sacrifice on the cross, at that point, becomes null and void, indeed becomes wholly ineffectual for the redemption of those mortals, and instead the resurrection of an obsolete, vanished, less effective covenant where the blood of Bulls and goats is shed to atone for sins, must be set back up?
 
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Ok Lorene, but are we sure that there's a connection between the two?
Nazarite or Nazarene?

Jesus sure wasn't a Nazarite.
Shrewd, from what I’ve studied, Nazarites have no direct connect to Nazarene but neither is there to anything else. Notably was Samuel who’s indoctrinatrine in as birth into such is actually miraculous carrying out of another Nazarite vow from the mother, Hannah. There are 10 prophesies in her prayer and the first mention in scripture of the Anointed One. Jesus was much more than just the man from Galilee.
 
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So the Jews can retain grounds for rejecting Jesus.

No that Israel will fulfill becoming a royal nation of priests. Israel was meant to be God’s living and breathing object lesson for the rest of the world. In the same manner Apostate Israel was to learn of the need for the Lamb of God they will be those who serve in the temple. Unfortunately the Bride will be busy and unable to function in this as she is preparing herself for the Wedding Supper of the Lamb and misses the 1,000 year Reign of her Husband as He deals with removing the last of the leaven/sin in preparation for the new heaven, new earth the descent of New Jerusalem and His now prepared Bride. If you wish to serve in the temple while the rest of the Bride is in heaven the Lord might accomadate you. :amen:
 
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I got it from Nader Mansour, he's an Aus-based SDA with semi-Arian leanings (the horror!). You can look him up on YT, some of his messages are excellent imho.
Brilliant. I'll look him up.
 
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No that Israel will fulfill becoming a royal nation of priests. Israel was meant to be God’s living and breathing object lesson for the rest of the world. In the same manner Apostate Israel was to learn of the need for the Lamb of God they will be those who serve in the temple. Unfortunately the Bride will be busy and unable to function in this as she is preparing herself for the Wedding Supper of the Lamb and misses the 1,000 year Reign of her Husband as He deals with removing the last of the leaven/sin in preparation for the new heaven, new earth the descent of New Jerusalem and His now prepared Bride. If you wish to serve in the temple while the rest of the Bride is in heaven the Lord might accomadate you. :amen:

Nice theory, not sure if it works. You're saying there's a new temple, a 1000 year gap (where the Jews serve in the temple, addressing their 'sin issues') then the descent of the City occurs?

So who's doing the catering for the wedding?
 
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Nice theory, not sure if it works. You're saying there's a new temple, a 1000 year gap (where the Jews serve in the temple, addressing their 'sin issues') then the descent of the City occurs?

Yes a new temple the Lord will not return to the temple of anti-christ having been destroyed so it would choice made out of necessity.

No they will not be dealing with their sin this will be the faithful remnant who has come to Messiah and who have been imprisoned and worse by anti- Christ and the apostate portion of Israel who have accepted the delusion of anti-christ seeming to be their long waited for Messiah

The thousand years are the time when the faithful remnant as the already purified Royal nation of priests serve in teaching the Gentile nations remnant that is completely apostate at this time through the same system used by the Lord to make these same truths known to Israel. Unfortunately in the people of Israel there are two streams of people one is the remnant that has believed in every generation while the other stream within Israel has, continues and will be there at the end when anti-Christ, the false prophet and all but the faithful remnant are destroyed. That faithful remnant will escape through the valley created when Christ returns to the Mount of Olives. These who have trusted in the Lord are those having believed in the true Messiah during these thousand years are the Royal nation of priests.

At the end of the thousand years Satan is released from the abyss where anti-christ had been held prisoner until the beginning of the 70th week of Daniel’s prophecy. This is the seven year period called the Tribulation. The tribulation is going to be so over the top with the things taking place in the world that He had to cut them short or no man would survive. At the end of the 70th week anti-christ and the false prophet are defeated apostate Israel is destroyed. Now Armageddon begins were anti-Christ, the false prophet and the armies who aligned with them will be destroyed. Interestingly if we remove the error of a 200 million man army supposedly coming from China for what they actually are we can understand why the days might need to be shortened. This army is not going to be human they are satan’s fallen angels as it was in the days of Noah when fallen angels, including anti-christ were in this world these are the locust seen coming up out of the Abyss. No humans, Chinese or otherwise, are in the Abyss. 200,000,000 fallen angels led by the Destroyer anti- Christ
 
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Scripture tells us that the Millennial Temple will once again have animal sacrifices. Your thoughts
No, it doesn't. Ezekiel's temple is NOT the "millennial temple". In fact, there is no such thing.
 
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