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Sick Migrants Undergoing Lifesaving Care Can Now Be Deported
Maria Isabel Bueso was 7 years old when she came to the United States from Guatemala at the invitation of doctors who were conducting a clinical trial for the treatment of her rare, disfiguring genetic disease. The trial was short on participants, and thanks to her enrollment, the Federal Drug Administration eventually approved a medication for the condition that has increased survival by more than a decade.

Now 24, Ms. Bueso has participated in several medical studies. She has won awards for her advocacy on behalf of people with rare diseases, appearing before lawmakers in Washington and in Sacramento. Through the years, her parents have paid for the treatment that keeps her alive with private medical insurance.

When you think of people as anything but people, this can be the only result.
 

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From a rational standpoint, this is all the more reason why we need control of our borders. Unchecked immigration creates an undue burden creates an undue burden on our health care system. God known the US has enough sick among our own citizens to look after.
 
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Some free links about this
Trump administration seeks to deport children with life-threatening illnesses
But the Trump administration recently told families who were granted permission to stay for medical care that their permission to stay has been rescinded and they have 33 days to leave the country.

The Trump Administration Is Now Deporting Kids With Cancer
Immigrant advocates in Boston say federal authorities are unfairly ordering foreign-born children granted special immigration status for medical treatment to return to their countries. The Irish International Immigrant Center says it’s aware of at least five local families who have received notices this month to leave the U.S. within 33 days.

https://www.politicususa.com/2019/08/28/maddow-trump-deport-sick-kids.html
the richest and most powerful nation on Earth and deciding what that government ought to work on is figuring out, where are all the really good pediatric hospitals in this country and trying to figure out if there might be kids in the hospitals who are currently receiving ongoing treatment that is saving their lives so you could somehow figure out a way to force a stop to that treatment and kick those kids and their families out of this country so that they can no longer get the care keeping them alive


Trump Reportedly Moving to Deport Kids With Cancer and Deadly Illnesses

The Trump administration has reportedly ended a program which allowed immigrants with serious illnesses to temporarily remain in the U.S., a move by the White House that rights advocates decried as “a death sentence” for children receiving treatment for cancer, HIV, and other life-threatening diseases

Can the Trump administration sink any lower than threatening to deport sick kids? - The Boston Globe
Trump halted the program this month, threatening to deport these patients, including children with leukemia, muscular dystrophy, or cystic fibrosis. The program’s termination means suspending or interrupting medical care, which in some instances is virtually a death sentence.
 
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From a rational standpoint, this is all the more reason why we need control of our borders. Unchecked immigration creates an undue burden creates an undue burden on our health care system. God known the US has enough sick among our own citizens to look after.
The Republicans, the Democrats and the independents all agree that there should be measures to control immigration and borders. Noone is disputing that.

The disagreements are with regards to the measures to be taken and the prioritisation of those measures.
With this thread in particular, the Trump administration has currently prioritised on seeking out desperately sick immigrant children, cancelling their treatment, whether it is planned or currently in play and ordering the families to leave the country within 33 days. Regardless of whether cancelling that treatment will result in the deaths of those children.
 
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The Republicans, the Democrats and the independents all agree that there should be measures to control immigration and borders. Noone is disputing that.

The disagreements are with regards to the measures to be taken and the prioritisation of those measures.
With this thread in particular, the Trump administration has currently prioritised on seeking out desperately sick immigrant children, cancelling their treatment, whether it is planned or currently in play and ordering the families to leave the country within 33 days. Regardless of whether cancelling that treatment will result in the deaths of those children.
Your forgetting once out of the womb, there is not even the pretence of a respect for life for a whole bunch of people on the right.
 
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Your forgetting once out of the womb, there is not even the pretence of a respect for life for a whole bunch of people on the right.
I'm not trying to make this a left vs right thing, a R vs D thing.

This should be seen from a humanistic vs nationalism thing.
Nationalism from a perspective of yes, you do have a country and yes your first priority is your own citizenry but also how does that tie into your responsibility and reputation on the world scene and your own reputation and dignity as a human being and how you choose to treat others.
 
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The chief end of government is to defend the interests of the people it governs, not the interests of other, non-citizen people. It has to be that way for the same reason that true altruism has never once, in the history of this planet, evolved naturally and stayed around for more than a handful of years--those who always prioritize others over self always end up being exploited by those who even only part of the time prioritize self over others.

Nobody would be complaining about this right now if that had simply been followed. But what invariably happens with socialism is that it starts taking on economic functions that are unsustainable but "nice," and because those functions are nice, people don't feel they can ever be discontinued when the time comes that they need to be discontinued. Because it's easy for most of us, who have never been in a position of leadership, to say that the hard decisions should never have to be made. But they do. Of course they do, in a universe of finite resources and competition for those resources. You may think I'm evil for such Machiavellian reasoning, but Machiavelli knew that survival of society comes first in the priorities of a good leader. Once the group has survived, then it can worry about whether what it did to survive was "moral."

Or maybe you'd like to discuss all the kids that Obama's drone strikes killed?
 
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From a rational standpoint, this is all the more reason why we need control of our borders. Unchecked immigration creates an undue burden creates an undue burden on our health care system. God known the US has enough sick among our own citizens to look after.

These people were granted protections to seek medical treatment not available in their countries.
Administration ends protection for migrant medical care

Ending the protection is just cruelty.
 
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Your forgetting once out of the womb, there is not even the pretence of a respect for life for a whole bunch of people on the right.

As a Christian, I'm sad to agree with you but that's true for many on the right. It's disconcerting to see disparaging of these immigrants from so many conservative Christians who claim to be pro-life.
 
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The chief end of government is to defend the interests of the people it governs, not the interests of other, non-citizen people. It has to be that way for the same reason that true altruism has never once, in the history of this planet, evolved naturally and stayed around for more than a handful of years--those who always prioritize others over self always end up being exploited by those who even only part of the time prioritize self over others.

Who's interests are being served by sending sick children somewhere else to die?

How does this benefit anyone?
 
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I'm not trying to make this a left vs right thing, a R vs D thing.

This should be seen from a humanistic vs nationalism thing.
Nationalism from a perspective of yes, you do have a country and yes your first priority is your own citizenry but also how does that tie into your responsibility and reputation on the world scene and your own reputation and dignity as a human being and how you choose to treat others.

The morality of people can always be best demonstrated by how they treat people they don't have to treat well.
 
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