Well?
I'm going somewhere with this.....but for now.....yes or no.
Can God do Evil?
I don't know....can you create it and not have done it?
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Well?
I'm going somewhere with this.....but for now.....yes or no.
Can God do Evil?
Well?
I'm going somewhere with this.....but for now.....yes or no.
Can God do Evil?
Well?
I'm going somewhere with this.....but for now.....yes or no.
Can God do Evil?
Amos 3:6 King James Version (KJV)Well?
I'm going somewhere with this.....but for now.....yes or no.
Can God do Evil?
No - but He can and does display His innate knowledge of evil through secondary causes such as the rebellion of angels, the fall of mankind, and the results of those.Can God do Evil?
So you think that Jesus was lying or mistaken when He said, "I am the way the truth and the life, and no man comes to the Father except by Me."
It's not me who has said this, it was Jesus Himself. So this means that only those who have put their faith and trust in Christ are saved.
You either believe what Jesus said or you don't. What you are putting forward is what is called "Universalism" which teaches the heresy that everyone will be saved whether they have faith in Christ or not.
I can't speak for anyone else.
But I'm ready for the big reveal.
Where are you going with this?
He already got there! See post his this page #27.
He's a shrewd universalist. Hang on, that's my job!
No - but He can and does display His innate knowledge of evil through secondary causes such as the rebellion of angels, the fall of mankind, and the results of those.
Regardless of what universalists such as yourself say - He will also display the necessary end of evil throughout eternity with the pouring out of His wrath on those secondary causes which displayed evil in this present age.
He will also pour out His love for eternity on those who overcome evil in this age through their faith in and subsequent eternal union with His Son.
You can declare for all of your life the unfairness of such events. But it will only last until you, like every angel and man with you, will bow before God and declare His ways righteous.
Better by far to bend the knee and do so now by faith rather than when forced to with the rest of the faithless of this present world.
AND NO - no matter your motive - making up your own rendition of God, His nature, and His actions is not the same as having faith in His Word. Such lack of faith is in fact a form of evil in itself - being displayed in this case by a secondary cause, namely you.
I don't know....can you create it and not have done it?
No. God does not create, bestow or impute evil. However, He can and does punish evil, which is in and of itself is good and righteous, perfectly in line with God's good and righteous character and will.
God is good and the source of all that is good. Evil is rightly the absence of God, not part of God's creation.
That is perhaps somewhat correct - the Man Christ Jesus that is.Eternal hell is an invention of men to bring others into fear and to be able to control them.
The Man Christ Jesus obviously disagrees with you.Eternal hell is not consistent with being Light or Love.
That is perhaps somewhat correct - the Man Christ Jesus that is.
The Man Christ Jesus obviously disagrees with you.
Any variance from His teaching on the subject is indeed your own rendition of the truth.
Most of the information we have about eternal punishment comes from Him.
Take it up with Him.
Job wasn't right about everything. He admits this in the end. I"spoke of things I did not understand." Just making the point that because Job said it doesn't make it true. The overall truth in Job and also the truth found in Ecclesiastes, is that we cannot possibly know or fathom what God has done from beginning to end. But since there is no greater Being, the purpose of life is to worship him.Job acknowledged the action of God but he never characterized that action as evil. He never judged God's action.
Job wasn't right about everything. He admits this in the end. I"spoke of things I did not understand." Just making the point that because Job said it doesn't make it true. The overall truth in Job and also the truth found in Ecclesiastes, is that we cannot possibly know or fathom what God has done from beginning to end. But since there is no greater Being, the purpose of life is to worship him.
Except we will never have all the information this side of heaven. In fact, I don't think eternity will be long enough to fully understand God. There is no end to God, you never reach the point where you say that's it, there's nothing more to learn, because he is infinite.God is completely logical and everything He says and does makes perfect sense. We may lack the knowledge to see how that could be... but it is just that, a lack of knowledge on our part. Once all things are revealed then we will see how perfectly logical and sensible it is.
Truth for God is truth for us. There is nothing about truth that we are unable to grasp, understand, and apply logically to life and the universe. As a systems engineer and and analyst, it was my job to break processes down into their smallest workable elements and procedures. The process could be huge... but once broken down it made perfect sense and was completely within our grasp to understand and duplicate in a application. God and His creation are the same way. Once we have all the information, we will be able to see how and why it was done the way it was. Perfectly logical and completely within our ability to see and understand.
Really? I don't think the concept of eternal punishment started with Augustine:Man-made, as in Augustine starting this idea of people as a "damned mass" (massa damnata) and worthy of only eternal punishment, and then Anselm of Canterbury and Aquinas picking this thread up and making a dogma out of it for the Roman Catholic Church in one of Her many theological errors (such as the Filioque clause to the Creed, Indulgences, penal substitution theory, etc.)