Who thinks Trump's claim to be the chosen one was sacrilegious

ToBeLoved said:

So because a judge amends with a court order it’s not a law?

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If it was the law, the judge wouldn't have issued an order to stop doing it.

CLAIM: President Bill Clinton passed a law in 1996 that separates parents and children entering the U.S. illegally and President Barack Obama enforced that law. Now, President Donald Trump is being demonized for enforcing it.

AP’S ASSESSMENT: False. There is no law that requires parents and children to be separated if they are entering the country illegally. Thousands of children were separated from their families after passing into the country illegally last year as a result of a temporary zero-tolerance policy under the Trump administration.
Clinton did not create a law separating families at the border

Trump defends conditions for detained migrant kids, blames Obama for family separations; fact checkers call foul

When questioned by interviewers about migrant children detained at the southern border, President Donald Trump has tried to steer the blame toward the previous administration, saying former President Barack Obama initiated the policy of separating those children from their caregivers, even though fact checkers have consistently found that claim to be false.

But, according to FactCheck.org, "previous administrations did not have a blanket policy to prosecute parents and separate them from their children." It was after the Trump administration announced its "zero-tolerance" immigration policy in April 2018, in which everyone who illegally entered the U.S. was referred for criminal prosecution, that thousands of migrant children were separated from their parents.

"We don’t want to separate families, but we don’t want families to come to the border illegally and attempt to enter into this country improperly," said then-Attorney General Jeff Sessions when the policy was announced. "The parents are subject to prosecution while children may not be. So, if we do our duty and prosecute those cases, then children inevitably for a period of time might be in different conditions."

In a May 2018 interview, then-White House Chief of Staff John Kelly told NPR a "big name of the game is deterrence" in stopping illegal immigration, and that family separations "would be a tough deterrent."
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PolitiFact found that family separations were rare during the Obama and Bush administrations and became "systematic" under Trump's zero-tolerance policy.
Trump defends conditions for detained migrant kids, blames Obama for family separations; fact checkers call foul

ToBeLoved said:

no to Merkel. She’s deep state/UN

Macron - same as Merkel
Trudeau - same as Merkel

Don’t know the last guy

Say no to globalists

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Exactly what I thought you'd write. Smh.

ToBeLoved said:

Sure. Whatever you say.

What do you think about Bill Clinton visiting Epstein island 27 times, talking about pedofiles.

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The word is spelled pedophile. If you're going to make a slanderous flame of someone at least spell the word properly so you don't burn yourself in the process.

Trump raved about what a great guy Epstein was & how he liked girls on the younger side. He was on Epstein's plane. A worker at Trump's golf resort in Fl said Epstein's victims were recruited there b4 Trump & Epstein had a big falling out bc of real estate. Trump was accused of raping a 13 yr old. He's made warped comments about young girls & bragged about being a peeping tom at beauty pageants he owned. If you think Clinton is what you said he was then it only makes sense you think the same of Trump.

The Barbarian said:

His Secretary of State:
It was challenging for me, coming from the disciplined, highly process-oriented Mobil-Exxon Corporation, to go to work for a man who is pretty undisciplined, doesn't like to read, doesn't read briefing reports, doesn't like to get into the details of a lot of things but rather just says, "This is what I believe, and you can try to convince me otherwise, but most of the time you're not going to do that."... We did not have a common value system. When the President would say, "Here is what I want to do and here's how I want to do it," and I'd have to say to him, "Mr. President, I understand what you want to do but you can't do it that way. It violates the law. It violates a treaty. He got really frustrated."
Rex Tillerson - Wikiquote

"Moron." "Idiot." "Dope." All the ways Trump's closest confidants insulted his intelligence

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Rex isn't alone. A Brief History of Trump’s Allies Calling Him an Idiot

GACfan said:

It's been mentioned before that the Bible passages about God ordaining national leaders and obeying government authorities mysteriously disappeared during the Democratic presidencies of Bill Clinton and Barack Obama, but conveniently reappeared during the Republican presidencies of George W. Bush and most recently, Trump. During the Obama administration, it was "Let his days be few..."

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The very next post after yours proved yours to be 100% right.

Snoder said:

Such as? Please tell me of these investigations.



Do you have any evidence of this?



Here is your chance.

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So sorry your news sources have left you unaware...but they will catch up...here's a start for you

DOJ announces broad antitrust review of Big Tech, pushing down shares of Alphabet, Facebook and Amazon

The Barbarian said:

Trump, just after his inauguration, started believing his own tweets, and set up a panel to investigate voter fraud. It fell apart in a short time, as the panel found only four cases in the 2016 election,and they were all fraudulent votes for republicans, three of them being people who fraudulently voted for Trump.

Not surprisingly, they were all caught, and the votes never counted.

Not exactly what Trump was expecting.

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Trump isn't investigating big tech...the DOJ is.

The Barbarian said:

It's really unfair. In the German concentration camps, for example, children were given cots to sleep on and were allowed to bathe themselves.

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Seriously...then you need to ask those who have been affected by what a real concentration camp truly is...instead of the fake news trying to make US detainment centers somehow compare...it's extremely insensitive and offensive to a lot of people.

The Barbarian said:

And yet Trump had ICE tossing kids into conditions worse than the Nazi camps. But since you mentioned it; yes, Trump hasn't herded them into gas chambers. So better than Auschwitz.



As you pointed out, that's the one reason Trump's camps are better. At least he's not gassing them.

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And Obama built them cages to stay in...not Trump...and even with overcrowding...there is still no comparison of a US detainment center to the horrors children and adults faced in Nazi concentration camps. It's trying to compare peaches to apples.

Johan_1988 said:

You should use spiritual discernment, critical thinking is subject to the limits of human understanding.

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The Barbarian said:

As I said, to be fair, children had cots and the opportunity to clean themselves in concentration camps.

But then, someone pointed out that they didn't push children into gas chambers in Trump's camps, which is also a valid point.

Still, rather disturbing that anyone in America would abuse children that way. And "we can't do any better", is not an excuse.

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Children were used for slave labor and young girls and boys too were repeatedly raped...yeah the children had it so much better sleeping 6 or 7 to a cot in lice, flea, rodent invested and disease infected overcrowded barracks. It's a lovely picture of how well those children were treated.

The Barbarian said:

Odd then, that the courts told Trump he had to stop it. How do you suppose that worked?
Federal judge orders reunification of parents and children, end to family separations at border - CNNPolitics

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And again...it wasn't Trump who set all this in place...no matter how often you say it. He inherited the immigration mess the US is in...including detainment centers with cages put in by Obama.

Not only are the democrats angry they lost the election...but they are also watching their attacks against their duly elected President failing all the time. They are such sore losers that they've become pathetic with their rhetoric.

Cimorene said:

The word is spelled pedophile. If you're going to make a slanderous flame of someone at least spell the word properly so you don't burn yourself in the process.

Trump raved about what a great guy Epstein was & how he liked girls on the younger side. He was on Epstein's plane. A worker at Trump's golf resort in Fl said Epstein's victims were recruited there b4 Trump & Epstein had a big falling out bc of real estate. Trump was accused of raping a 13 yr old. He's made warped comments about young girls & bragged about being a peeping tom at beauty pageants he owned. If you think Clinton is what you said he was then it only makes sense you think the same of Trump.

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The Trump and Epstein falling out was over the 14 yo girl that Epstein tried to recruit from Mar-Largo.

Not a business deal.

Zanting said:

So sorry your news sources have left you unaware...but they will catch up...here's a start for you

DOJ announces broad antitrust review of Big Tech, pushing down shares of Alphabet, Facebook and Amazon

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You asserted that: "Well actually there is evidence and the popular vote is being investigated"
That was absolutely false. Your link provides no evidence or comment on that.

I am going to restate this. You asserted that "Well actually there is evidence and the popular vote is being investigated"

Your link has absolutely nothing to do with that false claim.

You also asserted that: "Big tech is under investigation not only for voter fraud, but for promoting political bias, for suppressing real science, for censoring conservative and christian content...as well as law suits filed against google, youtube and twitter...the list goes on."

Also, that was absolutely false. Your link provides no evidence or comment on that.

Zanting said:

And again...it wasn't Trump who set all this in place...

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No, there's no point in denying that he did this, and meant to harm those kids to get back at their parents.

Government official says he warned Trump administration against family separations
Administration officials under President Donald Trump raised the idea of separating families at the border one month after his inauguration, a government official told a House panel on Thursday, and health experts who cared for migrant children in U.S. custody warned that the impact on their mental health would be devastating.

Cmdr. Jonathan White, a career public health official at the Department of Health and Human Services, also testified that his agency was largely kept out of the loop on changes to immigration enforcement. White, who helped to oversee children's programs at the HHS Office of Refugee Resettlement in 2017 and 2018, said he was perplexed by an uptick in children being referred to federal custody in Trump's first year in office. But when he asked about it, he said he was told there was no new policy to separate families.
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A spokeswoman for Nielsen said in response to White's testimony that "there was no policy of separating families." Nielsen has made similar remarks in public, an apparent reference to the fact that zero tolerance and other tough enforcement policies under Trump didn't call specifically to separate all families.


But White's testimony and documents recently leaked by Congress suggest that Nielsen and other officials knew ahead of time that hardline immigration enforcement would result in thousands of children separated from family members.

An internal December 2017 memo by the Homeland Security Department leaked by Congress confirmed that the administration was aware of the legal implications of separating families, but thought the negative publicity might serve as a deterrent to other migrants.
Government official says he warned Trump administration against family separations

He inherited the immigration mess the US is in...

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As did Obama. He deported more illegal aliens than Trump has done. But he didn't separate thousands of children from their parents. That was Trump's scheme to discourage asylum applications.

When questioned by interviewers about migrant children detained at the southern border, President Donald Trump has tried to steer the blame toward the previous administration, saying former President Barack Obama initiated the policy of separating those children from their caregivers, even though fact checkers have consistently found that claim to be false.

"When I became president, President Obama had a separation policy. I didn't have it. He had it. I brought the families together. I'm the one that put them together," he told Telemundo's José Díaz Balart in an interview that aired Thursday.

But, according to FactCheck.org, "previous administrations did not have a blanket policy to prosecute parents and separate them from their children." It was after the Trump administration announced its "zero-tolerance" immigration policy in April 2018, in which everyone who illegally entered the U.S. was referred for criminal prosecution, that thousands of migrant children were separated from their parents.
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In a May 2018 interview, then-White House Chief of Staff John Kelly told NPR a "big name of the game is deterrence" in stopping illegal immigration, and that family separations "would be a tough deterrent."
Trump defends conditions for detained migrant kids, blames Obama for family separations; fact checkers call foul

The republicans are running scared; they lost the elections in a blue wave, and now the Trump administration's policy of harming children to get at their parents has backfired. So, they're doing the usual... "blame Obama."

It's not working.

Zanting said:

Children were used for slave labor and young girls and boys too were repeatedly raped...yeah the children had it so much better sleeping 6 or 7 to a cot in lice, flea, rodent invested and disease infected overcrowded barracks. It's a lovely picture of how well those children were treated.

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And yes, there are few reports of ICE personnel molesting the kids they have in cages. So there's another way that the Trump administration is better than the Nazis.

Still, it's a shame we have to set the bar that low. Of course, you realize the Trump administration argues that cleanlinessis not a health requirement in the camps holding these kids.

Attorneys for the detained children are arguing that the government is not following the requirements of a 1997 settlement agreement in the case of Jenny Flores that established a framework for the humane treatment and release of detained migrant minors. Children must be housed in “safe and sanitary conditions” under the settlement. A district judge added the specific requirements that children be provided with soap and toothbrushes.


Members of the three-judge appellate panel appeared stunned by Fabian’s arguments, Courthouse News Service reported.


“Are you arguing seriously that you do not read the agreement as requiring you to do something other than what I just described: cold all night long, lights on all night long, sleeping on concrete and you’ve got an aluminum foil blanket?” asked Judge William Fletcher. “I find it inconceivable that the government would say that that is safe and sanitary.”
Justice Department Argues Against Providing Soap, Toothbrushes, Beds To Detained Kids

ICE Detention Center Says It’s Not Responsible for Staff's Sexual Abuse of Detainees
ICE Detention Center Says It’s Not Responsible for Staff's Sexual Abuse of Detainees

This will always be a problem in any sort of lock-up. The appalling thing is that the Trump administration argues that if it happens, they aren't responsible.

ToBeLoved said:

The Trump and Epstein falling out was over the 14 yo girl that Epstein tried to recruit from Mar-Largo.

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Sure...

In 2002, Trump told New York magazine that Epstein was a “terrific guy” who is “a lot of fun to be with.”

“It is even said that he likes beautiful women as much as I do, and many of them are on the younger side,” Trump told the magazine at the time.
Watch: Donald Trump parties in 1992 with now-accused child sex trafficker Jeffrey Epstein, pats woman's rear end

The Barbarian said:

Sure...

In 2002, Trump told New York magazine that Epstein was a “terrific guy” who is “a lot of fun to be with.”

“It is even said that he likes beautiful women as much as I do, and many of them are on the younger side,” Trump told the magazine at the time.
Watch: Donald Trump parties in 1992 with now-accused child sex trafficker Jeffrey Epstein, pats woman's rear end

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So 15 years ago and 25 years ago.

Way before Epstein was investigated for child sex trafficking.

Going this far back before the issues become public, is way out of context of today. Desperation.

I expect to see Trump’s baby pictures posted soon.

When we take a good look at the ones running against Trump

(((maybe he is the chosen one?)))

M-Bob

ToBeLoved said: ↑
The Trump and Epstein falling out was over the 14 yo girl that Epstein tried to recruit from Mar-Largo.

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Sure...

In 2002, Trump told New York magazine that Epstein was a “terrific guy” who is “a lot of fun to be with.”

“It is even said that he likes beautiful women as much as I do, and many of them are on the younger side,” Trump told the magazine at the time.
Watch: Donald Trump parties in 1992 with now-accused child sex trafficker Jeffrey Epstein, pats woman's rear end

ToBeLoved said:

Way before Epstein was investigated for child sex trafficking.

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But Trump was saying what a great guy he was and joking about his sexual behavior.

Going this far back before the issues become public, is...

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...documenting that Trump's newer sexual embarrassments aren't just a recent thing; this is who he is.

The Barbarian said:

In 2002, Trump told New York magazine that Epstein was a “terrific guy” who is “a lot of fun to be with.”

“It is even said that he likes beautiful women as much as I do, and many of them are on the younger side,” Trump told the magazine at the time.
Watch: Donald Trump parties in 1992 with now-accused child sex trafficker Jeffrey Epstein, pats woman's rear end



But Trump was saying what a great guy he was and joking about his sexual behavior.



...documenting that Trump's newer sexual embarrassments aren't just a recent thing; this is who he is.

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Matthew 7:1-2

1“Do not judge, or you too will be judged.2 For in the same way you judge others, you will be judged, and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you.

I hope the Trump haters avoid God’s wrath when he gives back to them the measure that they judged.