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I'm asking about Trump's statement because it isn't really clear.
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Trump Questions Loyalty of Jewish Democrats
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I'm asking about Trump's statement because it isn't really clear.
Are you assumed to be loyal to any foreign nation simply because people of the same ethnic group live there? I'm going to say that answer is no. I am loyal to the United States. I wish good things for our allies, but if I had to pick protecting the US or protecting Isreal, I pick the US.
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Ana the Ist
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No....
You could be correct, such jews who support bds may never have been loyal to Israel. If that's the case, it makes the claim of their disloyalty a simple matter of fact.
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Maybe, because the Republican side does nothing to help them. And makes things harder for them. I don't scold them. I just dont get it. Especially the few gay people I know. That voted for a side that are so against them. I see many Conservatives voting against themselves .
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Many black Evangelical Christians and Roman Catholic latinos are socially conservative--opposing abortion, gay marriage, etc. It would be a slam-dunk if Republicans could learn how to treat them decently.
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Yes, I've know Conservative Christians, that had abortions. And vote and pretend these little lives are so precious. Such phony. Gay and abortions shouldnt be the main reason to vote for a politician. It's really none of their business.
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Ana the Ist
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It doesn't...and it wouldn't seem ridiculous if I were a Japanese Buddhist.
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No...but they are Jewish. Did you forget Israel is a Jewish nation? That it's created by and for Jewish people?
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Are you aware that LoAmmi is Jewish? As a Jew, where should his "loyalty" be if he is an American in your opinion? Why should it be Israel? see below
The Toxic Back Story to the Charge That Jews Have a Dual Loyalty
When President Trump said this week that American Jews who chose to vote for Democrats were being disloyal, he was flirting with a notion that has fueled anti-Semitism for generations and has been at the root of some of the most brutal violence inflicted upon Jews in their history.
The accusation that Jews have a “dual loyalty” — that they are not to be trusted because their true allegiance is to their religion, rather than to the country in which they live — dates back thousands of years. It animated the Nazis in 1930s Germany, when they accused Jewish people of being traitors and used charges of disloyalty to justify their arrests, persecutions and mass killings.
After the founding of Israel, the charge was that Jews were more loyal to Israel, the Jewish state, than to their own countries. The smear persists in various forms to this day: It is a common refrain of white supremacists who claim there is a secret plot orchestrated by Jews to replace white people through mass migration and racial integration.
Dual loyalty - WikipediaThe accusation that Jews have a “dual loyalty” — that they are not to be trusted because their true allegiance is to their religion, rather than to the country in which they live — dates back thousands of years. It animated the Nazis in 1930s Germany, when they accused Jewish people of being traitors and used charges of disloyalty to justify their arrests, persecutions and mass killings.
After the founding of Israel, the charge was that Jews were more loyal to Israel, the Jewish state, than to their own countries. The smear persists in various forms to this day: It is a common refrain of white supremacists who claim there is a secret plot orchestrated by Jews to replace white people through mass migration and racial integration.
- Jews in the Jewish Diaspora have been accused of dual loyalty by the Romans in the 1st century, by the Frenchin the Dreyfus Affair in the late 19th century, in Stalin-era Soviet Union in the 20th century.[5] Before the creation of Israel, Jewish anti-Zionists used the accusation against other Jews.[6] While today some use the phrase in a "neutral and non-pejorative fashion," this use can obscure the fact that home nations and Israel may have sharp political differences.[7] The 1991 Gulf War[5] and the 2003 U.S. invasion of Iraq lead to such accusations against Jewish neoconservatives, vocal proponents of war against Iraq who allegedly sought to undermine Arab nations hostile to Israel (i.e., the term "Israel-firster").[8][9][10][11]
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So? If they are American, is it such a shock that that their loyalties are to America First?
My family immigrated from Germany. When my dad was in the US Army during WWII fighting Germany, was he disloyal?
Are you aware that not all Jews agreed with forming the State of Israel because they saw it as man made rather than from God? A lot didn't like it.
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Yes. As an answer to your questions, I never said LoAmmi "should" have loyalties anywhere.
That's a blatant falsehood and attack that he threw at me and I'd appreciate it if you didn't try to validate it.
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Again, I never said anything of the sort so I don't see why you'd jump to that conclusion.
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