Who thinks Trump's claim to be the chosen one was sacrilegious

Jamsie said:

Do trump supporters ever get dizzy with all the spinning? How many times has trump described himself as the chosen one?

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I only get dizzy when trying to follow all the suicides that plague Hillary’s associates.

The Barbarian said:

We have a president whose personal morals and serial adulteries are an affront to Christian values in almost every way, but who publicly mentions God constantly. His predecessor was a man whose personal morality and family are exemplars of Christian behavior in almost every way, but who only occasionally publicly mentions God.

Which of those do you think Jesus would consider to be His followers?

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That..... is laughable... Are you seriously talking about Obama being exemplary of personal morality?

On the outside he may have been clean.. but he was so anti God... behind the mask.

It was a God send that Trump got in and Pense as his vice...

JacksBratt said:

On the outside he may have been clean.. but he was so anti God... behind the mask.
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So you know the 'behind the mask' Obama? Are you going to tell us you know his heart?

JacksBratt said:

That..... is laughable... Are you seriously talking about Obama being exemplary of personal morality?

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Faithful to his wife. Takes his family to worship weekly. Raised good responsible children. Doesn't brag about committing sexual assault (yes, I know that's setting the bar pretty low, but Trump couldn't clear it). Never had to pay off people he defrauded, or had to pay off inappropriate content starts to keep them quiet about how he betrayed his latest wife. He never borrowed money that he didn't pay back, obeys laws... stuff like that.

On the outside he may have been clean.. but he was so anti God... behind the mask.

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You're thinking of Trump. Declaring himself to be a Christian, while boasting about how his status as a wealthy person allows him to sexually assault women and get away with it.

FenderTL5 said:

So you know the 'behind the mask' Obama? Are you going to tell us you know his heart?

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It's pretty much all he has left. His imagination.

FenderTL5 said:

So you know the 'behind the mask' Obama? Are you going to tell us you know his heart?

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Are you talking about Allah, the Muslim god

Hank77 said:

Provide evidence of mothers accusing Biden of pedophile behavior with their children.

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There is no way such an accusation would ever make it into print by the DNC controlled media.

The Barbarian said:

Faithful to his wife. Takes his family to worship weekly. Raised good responsible children. Doesn't brag about committing sexual assault (yes, I know that's setting the bar pretty low, but Trump couldn't clear it). Never had to pay off people he defrauded, or had to pay off inappropriate content starts to keep them quiet about how he betrayed his latest wife. He never borrowed money that he didn't pay back, obeys laws... stuff like that.

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Why I could understand why Obama's opponents didn't always like his policies (and I strongly disagreed with some of them myself), I've never been able to understand why there was so much outright hatred of him as a person. He had so much personal integrity, and even under the strongest attacks on his character, he met them all with grace and humor, and I would feel the same regardless of his religion or non-religion. He's intelligent and well-spoken and well-read and I certainly wasn't embarrassed to have him as President despite some disagreements with some policies. If only we could have a President even half as good as Obama, I likely wouldn't complain (much) at this point.

ToBeLoved said:

There is no way such an accusation would ever make it into print by the DNC controlled media.

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It'd be in one of current state run propaganda outlets, Fox, Brietbardt or the like.

bekkilyn said:

Why I could understand why Obama's opponents didn't always like his policies (and I strongly disagreed with some of them myself), I've never been able to understand why there was so much outright hatred of him as a person.

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Well, given that the majority of the hatred came from white nationalists, I think I have a clue.

He had so much personal integrity, and even under the strongest attacks on his character, he met them all with grace and humor, and I would feel the same regardless of his religion or non-religion. He's intelligent and well-spoken and well-read and I certainly wasn't embarrassed to have him as President despite some disagreements with some policies. If only we could have a President even half as good as Obama, I likely wouldn't complain (much) at this point.

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America agrees with you:

A new Pew Research Center poll says more Americans rank former President Barack Obama higher than any other when asked which president has done the best job in their lifetimes.

Obama was named the best or second best president by 44 percent of Americans in the survey that came out Wednesday. Thirty-one percent ranked him as the best president in their lifetimes.

President Donald Trump comes in fourth after President Bill Clinton and President Ronald Reagan, with 19 percent of Americans ranking him as the best or second best in their lifetimes.
Americans rank Barack Obama as best president of their lifetimes: Poll

Normally, the president is almost always America's most admired man. Trump continues to fall behind Barack Obama.

Although the Obamas are no longer in the White House, they are still the most admired people in America.
Americans rank Barack Obama as best president of their lifetimes: Poll

FenderTL5 said:

It'd be in one of current state run propaganda outlets, Fox, Brietbardt or the like.

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Sure. It’s propaganda when the video proof is all over the internet.

Even extremely Left Alyssa Milano got heat from Democrats when she put Biden on her podcast after the video was released.

Go find her Twitter feed and look at all the Democrats talking about it.

Most people don’t support child predators.

Yarddog said:

Depends on how you use the books. Americans voted for Clinton over Trump but Trump won due to how the Electoral College is set up.

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Because of voter fraud in California.

GACfan said:

As I pointed out in one of my previous posts yesterday, Donald Trump is not genuinely pro-life.

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Numerous issues arise if no caveat is made for sexual assault. It is from a place of sympathy with those victims that abortion would be permissible in the case of rape leading to pregnancy. How is the victim supposed to feel about a child growing inside her by an assailant who committed such an atrocity? Baby blues perhaps? He is undeniably pro-life if he's moving to defund planned parenthood and that protecting the sanctity of unborn life, I believe we may all agree as brethren, is an exemplary good fruit.

FenderTL5 said:

EDIT TO ADD: Church discipline is not the domain of the laity. I'm not saying that individuals are to be constantly judgmental of one another... we need to keep in mind that the way we judge others, is the way we will be judged.

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Most of criticism aimed at Trump is drawn heavily on what he speaks, while his actual actions are lesser taken into account. Let us not love in word or idle chatter but in deed and truth? 1 John 3:18 James 3:8

Jamsie said:

It seems trump supporters dance around the truth willingly, would you excuse this behavior in your own church or by those close to you who claim Christ?

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This is not to excuse the incendiary comment about shooting someone in the street and getting away with it, which nobody in good conscience should endorse. There was certainly no chance of that happening though. Scripture tells us that a man who holds mastery over the tongue will be considered a "perfect" man. So I guess we all have to agree that Trump is not a perfect man.
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Trump has a microphone shoved in his face nigh each minute of every day. He is bound to not speak perfectly in all he says. Which person here could confidently say otherwise? Who can talk to the media each day and not trip over words later? Who here claims to be impervious to making a gaff or stating an error? Cast 1st stone.

ToBeLoved said:

Because of voter fraud in California.

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Well, seems you've managed to show your true self/bias... claiming Obama to be a Muslim just demonstrates the seriousness of your "critical" thinking. Accusing Biden because of what you perceive to be child molestation...yet when someone justifiably takes the almighty trump to task suddenly all of the scripture appears! How about though shall not bear false witness...and unless you have incontrovertible evidence to support your accusations then guess what?

Yarddog said:

Depends on how you use the books. Americans voted for Clinton over Trump but Trump won due to how the Electoral College is set up.

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Oh, you mean the 2+ million votes from non-citizens in California? Anyways, the Electoral College was put in place for fairness.

ToBeLoved said:

Because of voter fraud in California.

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Again, you keep making this false claim without proof...you've been asked to show evidence but can't. Is that a Christian virtue or is it a Trumpian imperative?

ToBeLoved said:

There is no way such an accusation would ever make it into print by the DNC controlled media.

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Your excuses are becoming more and more immature.

GACfan said:

I just googled your statement and I didn't find a single article verifying that Planned Parenthood has been completely defunded by Donald Trump, but I did find this article from three days ago.

Pro-Life Movement Still Has A Long Way To Go Before Completely Defunding Planned Parenthood

Could you pull the EXACT quote verifying Planned Parenthood has been COMPLETELY DEFUNDED?

Thanks.

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I'm waiting for an answer from the person who insistently asked for quotes from other members.

The Barbarian said:

Faithful to his wife. Takes his family to worship weekly. Raised good responsible children. Doesn't brag about committing sexual assault (yes, I know that's setting the bar pretty low, but Trump couldn't clear it). Never had to pay off people he defrauded, or had to pay off inappropriate content starts to keep them quiet about how he betrayed his latest wife. He never borrowed money that he didn't pay back, obeys laws... stuff like that.



You're thinking of Trump. Declaring himself to be a Christian, while boasting about how his status as a wealthy person allows him to sexually assault women and get away with it.

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I have never said that Trump was an example of a Christian, even though he claims that he is one...

What I DID say was that it's a Godsend that he was elected. If you are not aware of the impact that Obama had and what Hillary would have had on the freedom of Christianity in the US.... at this point, I cannot take the time to educate you.

You totally fail to understand the antics of Willy Clinton too....

I don't think that Trump has the tact and polish of a groomed and trained politician.. but he was certainly what the US needed... from a Christian point of view.

You guys in the states dodged a bullet when Hillary lost and the fact that Obama's mandates were halted.