Douggg said:
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Background Matthew 24:29 previews the first verses of the sixth seal.
Matthew 24:29 >
Revelation 6:12-14.
Matthew 24:29 Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:
Matthew 24:29 is describing the destruction of Jerusalem in 70ad. The apocalyptic reference is typical of God's judgment on Israel. You can read it over and over in the Old Testament. This is no different.
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Douggg said:
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Hi Maria,
These things did not happen in 70 AD. They are end times events at the end of the great tribulation.
These things did happen and they are done. It was proclaimed by Jesus Christ of Nazareth. "This generation shall not pass until all has been fulfilled."
How Long Is "Immediately" to God?
100 years?
50?
10?
If 1000 years is as a Day to God, then 10 years is is about 24 minutes to God.
Would 24 minutes count as Immediately to God?
What about 5 years... that would be 12 Minutes to God...
If these events began exactly 12 minutes after the tribulation of those days, would you say that fulfilled the requirement of "immediately"?
I would.
So, I would say 5 years after the tribulation of those days certainly qualifies as Immediately in Gods view of Time.
Yes indeed.
"THIS GENERATION" in Bible
Mat 23:36
“Assuredly, I say to you,
all these things will come upon this generation.
Luk 11:50
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that the blood of all the prophets which was shed from the foundation of the world may be required of
this generation,
Luk 17:25
“But first He must suffer many things and
be rejected by this generation.
Act 2:40
And with many other words he testified and exhorted them, saying, “
Be saved from this perverse generation.”
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Let's take a look at the word Jesus uses in that verse:
Matthew 24:29 Immediately<2112> after the tribulation of those days.........
Strong's Concordance with Hebrew and Greek Lexicon
2112. eutheos yoo-theh'-oce adverb from 2117; directly, i.e. at once or soon:--anon, as soon as, forthwith, immediately, shortly, straightway.
2117. euthus yoo-thoos' perhaps from 2095 and 5087; straight, i.e. (literally) level, or (figuratively) true; adverbially (of time) at once:--anon, by and by, forthwith, immediately, straightway.
Ellicott's Commentary for English Readers
(29) Immediately after the tribulation of those days.--From this point onwards the prophecy takes a wider range, and passes beyond the narrow limits of the destruction of Jerusalem to the final coming of the Son of Man, and the one is represented as following "immediately" on the other. No other meaning could have been found in the words when they were first heard or read. The "days" of this verse are those which were shortened "for the elect's sake" (
Matthew 24:22). The "tribulation" can be none other than that of
Matthew 24:21, which was emphatically connected with the flight of men from the beleaguered city. The language of St. Mark, "in those days, after that tribulation," followed by a description of the second Advent identical in substance with St. Matthew's, brings the two events, if possible, into yet closer juxtaposition. How are we to explain the fact that already more than eighteen centuries have rolled away, and "the promise of His coming" still tarries?
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Meyer's NT Commentary
Matthew 24:29. Here follows the second portion of the reply of Jesus, in which He intimates what events, following at once on the destruction of Jerusalem, are immediately to precede His second coming (
Matthew 24:29-33); mentioning at the same time, that however near and certain this latter may be, yet the day and hour of its occurrence cannot be determined, and that it will break unexpectedly upon the world (
Matthew 24:34-41); this should certainly awaken men to watchfulness and preparedness (
Matthew 24:42-51), to which end the two parables,
Matthew 25:1-30, are intended to contribute. The discourse then concludes with a description of the final judgment over which the coming one is to preside (
Matthew 25:31-46).
εὐθέως δὲ μετὰ τ. θλίψιν τῶν ἡμερ. ἐκ.] but immediately after the distress of those days, immediately after the last (τὸ τέλος) of the series of Messianic woes described from
Matthew 24:15 onwards, and the first of which is to be coincident with the destruction of the temple. For τῶν ἡμερ. ἐκείνων, comp.
Matthew 24:19;
Matthew 24:22; and for θλίψιν,
Matthew 24:21. Ebrard’s explanation of this passage falls to the ground with his erroneous interpretation of
Matthew 24:23-24, that explanation being as follows: immediately after the unhappy condition of the church (
Matthew 24:23-28), a condition which is to continue after the destruction of Jerusalem,—it being assumed that the εὐθέως involves the meaning: “nullis aliis intercedentibus indiciis.”
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Expositor's Greek Testament
Matthew 24:29-31. The coming of the Son of Man (
Mark 13:24-27,
Luke 21:25-28).—Thus far the eschatological discourse has been found to bear on the predicted tragic end of Jerusalem. At this point the παρουσία, which, according to the evangelist, was one of the subjects on which the disciples desired information, becomes the theme of discourse.
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Bengel's Gnomen
Matthew 24:29. Εὐθέως δὲ μετὰ τὴν θλίψιν τῶν ἡμερῶν ἐκείνων, κ.τ.λ., but immediately after the affliction of those days, etc.) There are four things to be observed in this passage. (1) Our Lord speaks of the sun being literally darkened, etc. And this phrase frequently occurs in the prophets, concerning the destruction of a nation, and in such cases has a much more literal force than is generally supposed, for where there is a great destruction of men, the beholders of the sun are reduced to a small number; but much more in the present passage has it a literal force, for the whole of our Lord’s language on this occasion is strictly literal; therefore this verse must be also understood literally. (2) The tribulation indicated will be that of the Jewish people, and that for one generation, (3) It is not said, after that tribulation, nor after those days, but after the tribulation of those days, as in
Mark 13:24.—ἐν ἐκείναις ταῖς ἡμέραις μετὰ τὴν θλίψιν ἐκείνην, in those days, after that tribulation. The term, “those days,” refers to
Matthew 24:22;
Matthew 24:19; and it is indicated that the tribulation will not be long, but brief in duration;
Matthew 24:21-22;
Matthew 24:34. (4) The expression, εὐθέως, quickly (cito), implies a very short delay, since οὔπω, not yet (
Matthew 24:6) i.e., οὐκ εὐθέως, not quickly (
Luke 21:9), is said of the short delay which must precede that tribulation; nay, the passage already cited from St Mark excludes delay altogether. The Engl. Vers. has “immediately.” You will say, it is a great leap from the destruction of Jerusalem to the end of the world, which is represented as coming quickly after it. I reply
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Eutheos............
In Matthew 24:29, Jesus said, "Immediately after the tribulation of those days" the Son of Man would come in power and great glory, and, "he will send His angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they will gather His elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to another" (Matthew 24:31). Simply stated, the gathering at the sound of the trump is nothing less than the resurrection! (C.f. 1 Thessalonians 4:13-18).
Notice the complex of events, the Abomination, the Tribulation, parousia, the gathering of the elect. It should be noted that the parousia and gathering of the elect (the resurrection), would come "immediately after" the Tribulation. Many commentators try to say there is a disjunction here, and that all Jesus was saying is that at some point in the future, the parousia would occur. Or, it is claimed that the "immediately after" simply means "the next thing on the prophetic agenda, regardless of when it occurs."
This rather desperate attempt at exegesis fails on grammatical grounds, as well as contextual. The word translated as immediately, is eutheos (Εὐθέως). This is the word that is used the most often to describe the effect of Jesus' healing miracles. The healing always took place "immediately," and that does not mean that the person eventually got better! They were healed, instantly. The only reason that anyone suggested that "immediately" in Matthew 24:29 does not have temporal significance is because of what they perceive as a failed prediction. In other words, their literalistic concept of what Jesus predicted did not happen immediately, therefore, rather than honor the normal, consistent definition and use of the word, they completely redefine the word. This is unjustified, and should be rejected.
The parallels between Daniel and the Olivet Discourse are direct and precise. Daniel 9 foretold the death of Messiah, the Abomination of Desolation, which of course would lead to the Tribulation and the destruction of Jerusalem, and the consummation of the seventy weeks. The consummation of the seventy weeks would be kingdom and resurrection, the salvation of Israel.
Although the death of Jesus is not specifically mentioned in Matthew 24, it lies behind the text nonetheless. We then find the Abomination, the Tribulation, the parousia and the gathering of the elect. Jesus emphatically posited all of those things for his generation (v. 34).
Daniel 7 and the Discourse are also parallel. Daniel's prediction is focused on the days of the fourth kingdom, i.e. Rome. The Little Horn persecutes the saints. The Son of Man comes in judgment of the persecutor, vindicating the saints, and delivering the kingdom to them.
In the Olivet Discourse, which Jesus said would be fulfilled in his generation (during the days of the Roman empire!), Jesus predicted the persecution of the saints (Matthew 24:9f). The persecutor however, is identified as the nation of Israel. Jesus foretold the Abomination of Desolation, the Tribulation, followed by his coming on the clouds of heaven in vindication of the saints. This would be the time of the kingdom (Luke 21:28-31).
Daniel 12 contains identical motifs. We find the Abomination of Desolation (12:11), the time of tribulation (12:1), the deliverance of the saints (12:1), the time of the end (12:4) and the time of the kingdom (12:3). Significantly, Daniel was told that the final fulfillment of his vision would be when Israel was completely destroyed (12:7, matching Daniel 9:27 perfectly), and Jesus said that his prediction would be fulfilled in the destruction of Jerusalem in his generation. The dove-tailing of these details is no mere coincidence, and should not be ignored. Daniel posits the Tribulation in the context of Israel's judgment and last days, and Jesus does as well.
Our study of Daniel, the Tribulation, the resurrection, and thus, of course, the Day of the Lord, has demonstrated that not only does the Tribulation belong to Israel and her last days, but, the Tribulation was to be an immediate precursor and sign of the resurrection and kingdom. The fact that not only Daniel, but, Jesus and the N.T. said that the Tribulation was to occur in the first century generation is prima facie proof that the parousia and the resurrection was to occur in that same generation.
Don K Preston