How are we saved?

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Could you please elaborate?

God does not lie. He wrote the Bible. If His Son had not been sent to Earth to suffer and die for sinners, it would not be in the Bible. So there is nothing to believe if it had not happened and been written about.
 
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There seems to be a disconnect on how we are saved. I would like your comments please.
The New Testament is pretty clear, you hear the gospel, believe, and recieve the Holy Spirit of promise (John 3:3; 3:16; Acts 10:42-44); Eph. 1:13). Ok there are your justification by grace through faith, apart from, all to the honor and glory of God's grace.

At a glance it might a couple of things missing like reprentance at one end and the fruits of the Holy Spirit at the other. They are part of salvation in the sense the Father draws us to Christ and the believer grows in grace and knowdge but salvation is pretty straightforward.
 
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The New Testament is pretty clear, you hear the gospel, believe, and recieve the Holy Spirit of promise (John 3:3; 3:16; Acts 10:42-44); Eph. 1:13). Ok there are your justification by grace through faith, apart from, all to the honor and glory of God's grace.

At a glance it might a couple of things missing like reprentance at one end and the fruits of the Holy Spirit at the other. They are part of salvation in the sense the Father draws us to Christ and the believer grows in grace and knowdge but salvation is pretty straightforward.
The answer I was looking for is that we are saved by the Person and work of Christ. Our faith doesn't save us nor does any of the other things. It is Christ who saves us.

The disconnect comes when we see salvation as something we get rather than something Christ Jesus the Lord accomplished. We are far too man centered in our religion.
 
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The answer I was looking for is that we are saved by the Person and work of Christ. Our faith doesn't save us nor does any of the other things. It is Christ who saves us.

The disconnect comes when we see salvation as something we get rather than something Christ Jesus the Lord accomplished. We are far too man centered in our religion.
Considering Jesus is the author and finishiner of our faith (Hebrews 12:2) I would have to agree.

Bear in mind that when Jesus told them, you must believe in me (John 6:29). While that hardly seems obboxious or especially demanding, they turned and would not follow him anymore.

Of course your relationship with Jesis as Lord and Saviour is the essence of salvation. The formulae is justification by grace through faith. The doctrine is indispensable to the doctrine of salvation.
 
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The answer I was looking for is that we are saved by the Person and work of Christ. Our faith doesn't save us nor does any of the other things. It is Christ who saves us.

The disconnect comes when we see salvation as something we get rather than something Christ Jesus the Lord accomplished. We are far too man centered in our religion.

God gave us free will. So it is entirely up to us to decide if we want to follow Jesus. Of course Jesus is the only person who can give us the key, but we must open the door.
 
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God gave us free will. So it is entirely up to us to decide if we want to follow Jesus. Of course Jesus is the only person who can give us the key, but we must open the door.
There’s nothing about keys and doors in scripture concerning salvation.
 
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Can you tie it to scripture?
I found where Jesus referred to himself as a gate to the sheep (John 10:7-10). I'm not sure what the problem with the key and door analogy, I kind of like it. I've always loved that song, Jesus is the Lighthouse, even though it's noy very boblical.
 
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I found where Jesus referred to himself as a gate to the sheep (John 10:7-10). I'm not sure what the problem with the key and door analogy, I kind of like it. I've always loved that song, Jesus is the Lighthouse, even though it's noy very boblical.
It works, I suppose, if it’s only sheep who get a key.
 
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For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life.

God gave you something, but you had to act on it. Believing in Jesus is unlocking the door.
Why would someone who hates the light and loves the darkness act on it?
 
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It works, I suppose, if it’s only sheep who get a key.
Well naturally, there is another door and key that may or may not be related (Isa. 22:22, Rev. 3:7). It appears to be the royal treasury Jesus promises to the Philidelphians, some kind of ministry opportunity.
 
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Well naturally, there is another door and key that may or may not be related (Isa. 22:22, Tev. 3:7). It appears to be the royal treasury Jesus promises to the Philidelphians, some kind of ministry opportunity.
I have no idea what any of that means.
 
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It works, I suppose, if it’s only sheep who get a key.

I don't know why my analogy is confusing, but here is what I mean: If someone gives you a key he is not the person who opened the door. You decide whether to open the door or not. In the same way you must decide whether to believe in Jesus or not, and if you don't, you won't enter His kingdom.
 
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