I have a question about the judgement seat of Christ.

Neostarwcc · Aug 20, 2019

Okay so, when Christians have to stand before God and give an account for their lives at the Judgement seat will their sins ever come up? It's commonly taught throughout the New and Old Testament that our sins are forgiven when we accept Christ and they do not come across God's mind. Okay so my sins are forgiven and I'm never held responsible for my sins. There is no condemnation for me and for every other Christian who comes to Christ for salvation. That's amazing and what a merciful and wonderful God! Because, I've committed MANY sins in my life and continue to commit many sins to this day and will until the day I die. Here's the confusion though in Matthew 12:36 Jesus says that ALL men will have to give an account to God for every idle word spoken on the day of judgement. Wait a second, weren't my sins forgiven when I accepted Christ? Why will I be reminded of them during the judgement when I'm trying to forget about them on move on as I continue to battle sin daily? Why will I have to give an account for things that I am ashamed of? Honestly? I wouldn't know what to say and I would just be ashamed if Christ asked me to explain every time I ever used God's name in vain. Every time I blasphemed him as an atheist. Every time I've cursed in front of my wife and in front of other people (I'm a chronic curser). Every time I've made a sex joke or said the scientific words for the male and female body parts. I've said MANY idle words and I just cannot stop. Why do I have to give an account for something that I cannot even help? Can somebody explain this to me?

bèlla · Aug 20, 2019

It is one thing to sin in ignorance and unbelief and another when we’ve come to faith. My chastening isn’t the same. I’m accountable for my actions. Good and bad.

As a believer, I must ask myself why I’ve chosen otherwise. I must consider why sin is more appealing (in a given situation) than His precepts. Although we won’t reach a perfect state in this form, we aren’t given the latitude of grace without conviction. Sanctification is His aim.

Idle words are of great consequence because they reveal our heart. We are told we’re defiled by what hails from the mouth and reminded to take our time before speaking. All of this points back to Paul’s words regarding love. If we walk in love our words will bear witness to that truth.

And as he reminds us, no matter what we do, if love is lacking we have nothing. All throughout the bible we’re given multiple examples of loving responses. Both through word and deed.

If we earnestly adhered to the greatest commandments: loving the Lord and our neighbors. And made that our benchmark in our Christian walk; we’d have little to fear when we meet our Savior.

Our perfection in its display would not occur. But the absence of any attempt should leave us ashamed in light of His sacrifice.

~Zao~ · Aug 20, 2019

7 But if ye had known what this meaneth, I desire mercy, and not sacrifice, ye would not have condemned the guiltless.

14 But the Pharisees went out, and took counsel against him, how they might destroy him.

20 A bruised reed shall he not break, And smoking flax shall he not quench, Till he send forth judgment unto victory.

24 But when the Pharisees heard it, they said, This man doth not cast out demons, but by Beelzebub the prince of the demons.

30 He that is not with me is against me, and he that gathereth not with me scattereth.

34 Ye offspring of vipers, how can ye, being evil, speak good things? for out of the abundance of the heart the mouth speaketh.

50 For whosoever shall do the will of my Father who is in heaven, he is my brother, and sister, and mother.

These are a few things from that chapter that may warrant looking at.
Condemning the guiltless,
plotting to kill,
treading on the weak,
blaspheming the HS,
being against Christ to scatter elsewhere,
speaking evil from an evil heart,
not doing the will of the Father.

They will be judged apparently by the people saved at Ninevah and by the Queen of the South for the reason of not recognizing the day of their visitation.

Neostarwcc · Aug 20, 2019

LaBèlla said:
It is one thing to sin in ignorance and unbelief and another when we’ve come to faith. My chastening isn’t the same. I’m accountable for my actions. Good and bad.

As a believer, I must ask myself why I’ve chosen otherwise. I must consider why sin is more appealing (in a given situation) than His precepts. Although we won’t reach a perfect state in this form, we aren’t given the latitude of grace without conviction. Sanctification is His aim.

Idle words are of great consequence because they reveal our heart. We are told we’re defiled by what hails from the mouth and reminded to take our time before speaking. All of this points back to Paul’s words regarding love. If we walk in love our words will bear witness to that truth.

And as he reminds us, no matter what we do, if love is lacking we have nothing. All throughout the bible we’re given multiple examples of loving responses. Both through word and deed.

If we earnestly adhered to the greatest commandments: loving the Lord and our neighbors. And made that our benchmark in our Christian walk; we’d have little to fear when we meet our Savior.

Our perfection in its display would not occur. But the absence of any attempt should leave us ashamed in light of His sacrifice.

But why bring up something that you've promised to eternally forgive and forget? It's TRUE that idle words reveal our hearts and my heart is clearly evil. Especially when I sin so much. I am not living for the Lord despite my occasional living for him. I should be all in and God is probably disappointed in me. When I have to give an account for my sins is it going to be a scary experience? Or will God just call me wicked and lazy and I'll be ashamed? Just wondering.

Neostarwcc · Aug 20, 2019

LoreneDD said:
7 But if ye had known what this meaneth, I desire mercy, and not sacrifice, ye would not have condemned the guiltless.

14 But the Pharisees went out, and took counsel against him, how they might destroy him.

20 A bruised reed shall he not break, And smoking flax shall he not quench, Till he send forth judgment unto victory.

24 But when the Pharisees heard it, they said, This man doth not cast out demons, but by Beelzebub the prince of the demons.

30 He that is not with me is against me, and he that gathereth not with me scattereth.

34 Ye offspring of vipers, how can ye, being evil, speak good things? for out of the abundance of the heart the mouth speaketh.

50 For whosoever shall do the will of my Father who is in heaven, he is my brother, and sister, and mother.

These are a few things from that chapter that may warrant looking at.
Condemning the guiltless,
plotting to kill,
treading on the weak,
blaspheming the HS,
being against Christ to scatter elsewhere,
speaking evil from an evil heart,
not doing the will of the Father.

They will be judged apparently by the people saved at Ninevah and by the Queen of the South for the reason of not recognizing the day of their visitation.

I see. That just makes me ashamed.

bèlla · Aug 20, 2019

Neostarwcc said:
But why bring up something that you've promised to eternally forgive and forget?

Does a loving father cease to evoke godliness in their children even when they err and fail? Does he turn a blind eye to their stumbles or offer correction to strengthen and steer them aright? How much more for your Father in heaven who loves you like no other.

I am not living for the Lord despite my occasional living for him. I should be all in and God is probably disappointed in me. When I have to give an account for my sins is it going to be a scary experience? Or will God just call me wicked and lazy and I'll be ashamed? Just wondering.

Who masters his craft by practicing it haphazardly? His mastery is the result of focus and toil. He disciplines himself and applies his time towards its attainment.

If we are lackadaisical in our walk our mettle will be slack. We won’t have the fortitude to weather challenges or the willingness to change. We’ll be stagnant. This begins by renewing our mind through His word and prayer.

I undertook a virtues project two years ago. Each day I’d meditate on a virtue and consider its presence or absence in my life. I wrote down ideas for improvement and an affirmation (written as a prayer) that I repeated throughout the day. It did wonders for my temperament and heart.

We must confront our ungodly behavior. He doesn’t sweep it under the rug and nor can we.

Neostarwcc · Aug 20, 2019

LaBèlla said:
Does a loving father cease to evoke godliness in their children even when they err and fail? Does he turn a blind eye to their stumbles or offer correction to strengthen and steer them aright? How much more for your Father in heaven who loves you like no other.

Who masters his craft by practicing it haphazardly? His mastery is the result of focus and toil. He disciplines himself and applies his time towards its attainment.

If we are lackadaisical in our walk our mettle will be slack. We won’t have the fortitude to weather challenges or the willingness to change. We’ll be stagnant. This begins by renewing our mind through His word and prayer.

I undertook a virtues project two years ago. Each day I’d meditate on a virtue and consider its presence or absence in my life. I wrote down ideas for improvement and an affirmation (written as a prayer) that I repeated throughout the day. It did wonders for my temperament and heart.

We must confront our ungodly behavior. He doesn’t sweep it under the rug and nor can we.

I mean I battle my sin daily but it's not anything I can stop. Nor do I think most Christian denominations believe that you can stop. Perfection is not possible until we cross over. But when I do have to give an account to God I dont want to be ashamed I want to be glad. I mean obviously if our sins do come up we will be ashamed of our sins but we want yo delight in the praise and rewards that God gives us right?

Daniel9v9 · Aug 20, 2019

Fear not! For the unbeliever, judgment certainly is a dreadful thing, but for the believer, it's a wonderful thing! This is because we are not judged by our works, but by the works of Christ, which we inherit as ours, when we believe in the person and works of Jesus Christ and are baptised into the name of the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit.

Think of it this way - imagine you have a book full of written down sins - an immeasurable debt. Then Christ rips out the pages and nails them to the cross, signing the papers "debt paid in full" with His own blood. So at the judgment, and He being the judge, the only pages that remain in your book are the inserted pages of the good works of Christ, by which you are justified or counted righteous in God's sight. And along with these are the good works He has given you to do, by the fruit of the Holy Spirit.

We can see a great picture of what the judgment is like in Matthew 25:31-40, and interestingly, notice how both the believers and the unbelievers are surprised at the judgment. The believers are surprised that they did good, even though they are unworthy and unprofitable servants. The unbelievers are surprised that they did evil, for they assumed they did good in their own eyes.

The point is, the believer's attitude to God's judgment should be filled with great anticipation and joy - not because of anything that we do by our own efforts - but because of the grace of God. So with Paul, we can boldly say: "To live is Christ, and to die is gain." And with John: "Come, Lord Jesus!"

~Zao~ · Aug 20, 2019

Neostarwcc said:
I see. That just makes me ashamed.

This probably won’t help to ease your discomfort but this is what I found in explanation:

1 You, therefore, have no excuse, you who pass judgment on someone else, for at whatever point you judge another, you are condemning yourself, because you who pass judgment do the same things.
2 Now we know that God’s judgment against those who do such things is based on truth.
3 So when you, a mere human being, pass judgment on them and yet do the same things, do you think you will escape God’s judgment?
4 Or do you show contempt for the riches of his kindness, forbearance and patience, not realizing that God’s kindness is intended to lead you to repentance?
5 But because of your stubbornness and your unrepentant heart, you are storing up wrath against yourself for the day of God’s wrath, when his righteous judgment will be revealed.
6 God “will repay each person according to what they have done.”
7 To those who by persistence in doing good seek glory, honor and immortality, he will give eternal life.
8 But for those who are self-seeking and who reject the truth and follow evil, there will be wrath and anger.
9 There will be trouble and distress for every human being who does evil: first for the Jew, then for the Gentile;
10 but glory, honor and peace for everyone who does good: first for the Jew, then for the Gentile.
11 For God does not show favoritism.
12 All who sin apart from the law will also perish apart from the law, and all who sin under the law will be judged by the law.
13 For it is not those who hear the law who are righteous in God’s sight, but it is those who obey the law who will be declared righteous.
14(Indeed, when Gentiles, who do not have the law, do by nature things required by the law, they are a law for themselves, even though they do not have the law.
15 They show that the requirements of the law are written on their hearts, their consciences also bearing witness, and their thoughts sometimes accusing them and at other times even defending them.)
16 This will take place on the day when God judges people’s secrets through Jesus Christ, as my gospel declares.

Neostarwcc · Aug 20, 2019

Daniel9v9 said:
Fear not! For the unbeliever, judgment certainly is a dreadful thing, but for the believer, it's a wonderful thing! This is because we are not judged by our works, but by the works of Christ, which we inherit as ours, when we believe in the person and works of Jesus Christ and are baptised into the name of the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit.

Think of it this way - imagine you have a book full of written down sins - an immeasurable debt. Then Christ rips out the pages and nails them to the cross, signing the papers "debt paid in full" with His own blood. So at the judgment, and He being the judge, the only pages that remain in your book are the inserted pages of the good works of Christ, by which you are justified or counted righteous in God's sight. And along with these are the good works He has given you to do, by the fruit of the Holy Spirit.

We can see a great picture of what the judgment is like in Matthew 25:31-40, and interestingly, notice how both the believers and the unbelievers are surprised at the judgment. The believers are surprised that they did good, even though they are unworthy and unprofitable servants. The unbelievers are surprised that they did evil, for they assumed they did good in their own eyes.

The point is, the believer's attitude to God's judgment should be filled with great anticipation and joy - not because of anything that we do by our own efforts - but because of the grace of God. So with Paul, we can boldly say: "To live is Christ, and to die is gain." And with John: "Come, Lord Jesus!"

But what about those of us who have wasted our lives and were wicked and lazy servants? Yes we will be saved but we will also be deeply ashamed when we come before the Lord. I've read the article here:

What Is the Judgment Seat of Christ? (The Bema)

And in the article it says that we will not be judged for our sins but rather our faithfulness to God. That makes me feel a little better that my sins are no longer held against me but I have not been faithful. True I have works but I do not live every single day for God. Nor does my wife. We should be given the strength to spread the gospel and go live for God each and every day of our lives. I guess from this day forward I just wont give up and I'll keep pressing forward and have faith that God will lead me into every work and reward that he wants me to have. He has my complete trust (as he should). So... yeah.

Neostarwcc · Aug 20, 2019

LoreneDD said:
This probably won’t help to ease your discomfort but this is what I found in explanation:

1 You, therefore, have no excuse, you who pass judgment on someone else, for at whatever point you judge another, you are condemning yourself, because you who pass judgment do the same things.
2 Now we know that God’s judgment against those who do such things is based on truth.
3 So when you, a mere human being, pass judgment on them and yet do the same things, do you think you will escape God’s judgment?
4 Or do you show contempt for the riches of his kindness, forbearance and patience, not realizing that God’s kindness is intended to lead you to repentance?
5 But because of your stubbornness and your unrepentant heart, you are storing up wrath against yourself for the day of God’s wrath, when his righteous judgment will be revealed.
6 God “will repay each person according to what they have done.”
7 To those who by persistence in doing good seek glory, honor and immortality, he will give eternal life.
8 But for those who are self-seeking and who reject the truth and follow evil, there will be wrath and anger.
9 There will be trouble and distress for every human being who does evil: first for the Jew, then for the Gentile;
10 but glory, honor and peace for everyone who does good: first for the Jew, then for the Gentile.
11 For God does not show favoritism.
12 All who sin apart from the law will also perish apart from the law, and all who sin under the law will be judged by the law.
13 For it is not those who hear the law who are righteous in God’s sight, but it is those who obey the law who will be declared righteous.
14(Indeed, when Gentiles, who do not have the law, do by nature things required by the law, they are a law for themselves, even though they do not have the law.
15 They show that the requirements of the law are written on their hearts, their consciences also bearing witness, and their thoughts sometimes accusing them and at other times even defending them.)
16 This will take place on the day when God judges people’s secrets through Jesus Christ, as my gospel declares.

So basically God judges our faithfulness and our works on that day?

~Zao~ · Aug 20, 2019

Neostarwcc said:
So basically God judges our faithfulness and our works on that day?

I’ve always thought of the Day of the Lord as being when Christ brought His clear teaching to all who are His, before the marriage supper, but that sounds more like the GWT judgement, when all will be judged according to their works.
Faithfulness to Christ according to our works as His hands and feet I can see as being a heavy responsibility that He would hold us to tho. Working out what that is to Him is working out our own salvation with fear and trembling.

Daniel9v9 · Aug 20, 2019

Neostarwcc said:
But what about those of us who have wasted our lives and were wicked and lazy servants? Yes we will be saved but we will also be deeply ashamed when we come before the Lord. I've read the article here:

What Is the Judgment Seat of Christ? (The Bema)

And in the article it says that we will not be judged for our sins but rather our faithfulness to God. That makes me feel a little better that my sins are no longer held against me but I have not been faithful. True I have works but I do not live every single day for God. Nor does my wife. We should be given the strength to spread the gospel and go live for God each and every day of our lives. I guess from this day forward I just wont give up and I'll keep pressing forward and have faith that God will lead me into every work and reward that he wants me to have. He has my complete trust (as he should). So... yeah.

I think you need to redefine what a good work is! Good works are the things we do in our various vocations, it’s not everyone running around being a pastor, for not everyone are called to teach.

We are to love God by loving our neighbour. If you take care of your family - looking after their bodily and spiritual needs - you’re doing a good work. If you perform diligently at work or in your studies, you’re doing good. If you don’t neglect to hear God’s Word, make offerings to the Church, and freely confess your hope and trust in Christ to your neighbour where possible, again, you’re doing good.

Good works, in short, are what is often considered the mundane. But if we look at Genesis, we find a very different picture. Adam and Eve did good - even perfect - when they served God as good stewards. By simply loving God and caring for all His creation, we’re doing good works.

See for yourself what the Bible qualifies as good works: Luther’s Small Catechism by Dr. Martin Luther

Blessings!

-Sasha- · Aug 20, 2019

This is part of a hymn sung in my Church in the weeks leading up to the celebration of Pascha (Easter) which I think sums up what we believe, what we hope for, in regards to judgement:
When I think of the many evil things I have done, wretch that I am,
I tremble at the fearful day of judgement.
But trusting in Thy loving kindness, like David I cry to Thee:
Have mercy on me, O God, according to Thy great mercy.
And according to the multitude of Thy compassion, blot out my transgressions.

1213 · Aug 20, 2019

Neostarwcc said:
...Why do I have to give an account for something that I cannot even help? Can somebody explain this to me?

I think these tree questions can lead to good answer:

Do you think they are wrong things?

If yes, then why do you do them?

If no, why would you ask forgiveness?

JIMINZ · Aug 20, 2019

Neostarwcc said:
It's commonly taught throughout the New and Old Testament that our sins are forgiven when we accept Christ and they do not come across God's mind. Okay so my sins are forgiven and I'm never held responsible for my sins.

You have a misconception of what the Bible says on this subject.

Maybe you should investigate the question by first reading the verse pertaining to your statement, before you move any further.

Your understanding of just what the verse in question actually does say, is of the utmost importance, if your understanding of said verse is in fact wrong, (which it is) then everything you believe after that point is also incorrect.

It is best to know just what a verse does say, before you say something about it which it clearly does not say.

Therefore I post said verse for you to be able to see your misunderstanding.

Rom. 3:25
Whom God hath set forth to be a propitiation through faith in his blood, to declare his righteousness for the remission of sins that are past, through the forbearance of God;

Your misconception is, from what you he said, you believe your sins after you Believed in Christ are also Forgiven, and should not be mentioned at the Judgment.

I have not gone any further in your post because you need to resolve this question before you are able to move on.

Neostarwcc · Aug 21, 2019

-Sasha- said:
This is part of a hymn sung in my Church in the weeks leading up to the celebration of Pascha (Easter) which I think sums up what we believe, what we hope for, in regards to judgement:
When I think of the many evil things I have done, wretch that I am,
I tremble at the fearful day of judgement.
But trusting in Thy loving kindness, like David I cry to Thee:
Have mercy on me, O God, according to Thy great mercy.
And according to the multitude of Thy compassion, blot out my transgressions.

That's is a very nice hymn. I think it's from the Bible right? Psalm 51 right? It is so true, I need to have faith that God will judge me righteously on the last day based on how faithful I was to him in my life. So far, I have not been very faithful to him at all.

Neostarwcc · Aug 21, 2019

JIMINZ said:
You have a misconception of what the Bible says on this subject.

Maybe you should investigate the question by first reading the verse pertaining to your statement, before you move any further.

Your understanding of just what the verse in question actually does say, is of the utmost importance, if your understanding of said verse is in fact wrong, (which it is) then everything you believe after that point is also incorrect.

It is best to know just what a verse does say, before you say something about it which it clearly does not say.

Therefore I post said verse for you to be able to see your misunderstanding.

Rom. 3:25
Whom God hath set forth to be a propitiation through faith in his blood, to declare his righteousness for the remission of sins that are past, through the forbearance of God;

Your misconception is, from what you he said, you believe your sins after you Believed in Christ are also Forgiven, and should not be mentioned at the Judgment.

I have not gone any further in your post because you need to resolve this question before you are able to move on.

Umm, no that is not what Paul meant in Romans 3:25. The NIV explains Pauls meaning a little clearer. To say that God only forgave our past sins when Christ died on the cross would be in direct contradiction to Isaiah 43:26, Psalm 103:10-12, Luke 7:36-50, Hebrews 10:10 and many other verses in the Bible that say that God completely wipes out our sins past present and future when we come to Christ.

Either our sins will not come up during the day of Judgement because God forgave them or they will come up but ONLY so that our eternal rewards can be called into question not our salvation. When Christ said that we will have to give an account for every idle word spoken and so that God can judge our works and faithfulness to him. It was not so that he could question our salvation that is during the Great White Throne Judgement and not the Judgement of Believers. We were declared not guilty the moment we came to Christ and appear before the Trinity to be just as perfect as Christ was despite our many sins. It was so that God could judge us based on our faithfulness and our love towards him. If we did nothing for the Lord Paul basically says our lives are wasted, all of our works burned up, and we will receive no rewards, but we will still be saved (1 Corinthians 3:10-15).

So, Idk what I am scared of at most I would just lose rewards for my unfaithfulness and Christ will call me a wicked and lazy servant and rebuke me on the last day and I will appear before my Lord ashamed. But, maybe I just don't want to appear before him ashamed. I want my Lord's praise not disapproval. So... living for the Lord it is then.

JIMINZ · Aug 21, 2019

Neostarwcc said:
Umm, no that is not what Paul meant in Romans 3:25. The NIV explains Pauls meaning a little clearer. To say that God only forgave our past sins when Christ died on the cross would be in direct contradiction to Isaiah 43:26, Psalm 103:10-12, Luke 7:36-50, Hebrews 10:10 and many other verses in the Bible that say that God completely wipes out our sins past present and future when we come to Christ.

Either our sins will not come up during the day of Judgement because God forgave them or they will come up but ONLY so that our eternal rewards can be called into question not our salvation. When Christ said that we will have to give an account for every idle word spoken and so that God can judge our works and faithfulness to him. It was not so that he could question our salvation that is during the Great White Throne Judgement and not the Judgement of Believers. We were declared not guilty the moment we came to Christ and appear before the Trinity to be just as perfect as Christ was despite our many sins. It was so that God could judge us based on our faithfulness and our love towards him. If we did nothing for the Lord Paul basically says our lives are wasted, all of our works burned up, and we will receive no rewards, but we will still be saved (1 Corinthians 3:10-15).

So, Idk what I am scared of at most I would just lose rewards for my unfaithfulness and Christ will call me a wicked and lazy servant and rebuke me on the last day and I will appear before my Lord ashamed. But, maybe I just don't want to appear before him ashamed. I want my Lord's praise not disapproval. So... living for the Lord it is then.

Personally, my belief on the matter is, our sins that are PAST will not come up, they have been forgiven.

Now this is the part where so many Christians run into a problem, this is the question Christians ask themselves.

"If only my Past sins are forgiven, what about my future sins"?

Have you not read where Paul says
"You are DEAD UNTO SIN"? Rom. 6:1-14

John says this about Sin
"Whosoever is born of God DOTH NOT COMMIT SIN" 1 John 3:1-10

These are only two examples of why Sin in the life of the Believer is only spoken of in the PAST Tense "Sins that are Past"

Do you not know, you are Dead to the Law, as well as to the Flesh?

Therefore a Believer that is Dead to SIN, The LAW, and The FLESH is not only Freed from sin, he cannot.

Jesus Destroyed both Sin and Sin in the Flesh for a reason.
Rom 8:3 For what the law could not do, in that it was weak through the flesh, God sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, and for sin, condemned sin in the flesh:

Rom. 8:4
That the righteousness of the law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.

John 8:36
If the Son therefore shall make you free, ye shall be free indeed.

Gal. 2:20
I am crucified with Christ: nevertheless I live; yet not I, but Christ liveth in me: and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by the faith of the Son of God, who loved me, and gave himself for me.

~Zao~ · Aug 21, 2019

There was a man on a bus who ate the passenger next to him because God told him to. What god was that? Certainly if you compared it to Christ you would know it wasn’t Christianity’s God that he was hearing from. Conscience takes many forms according to the brightness or dimness of the awakened being. It is only discernible in the comparison. Do you think God deserves a bad Name for what was obviously not of His character? I live in what has been considered an extreme bible belt area in the past, and I know that everyone felt implicated in the crime because that is how the media ran the story. But in truth it had nothing to do with Christianity no matter what people’s conscience told them. Media always attempts to groom the publics conscience as a means of control.

I have a question about the judgement seat of Christ.

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