Mercedes in the UK spies on drivers by installing tracking devices in cars leased and financed

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Mercedes [in the UK] spies on drivers by secretly installing tracking devices in cars and passing information to bailiffs

The secret sensors, fitted to all new and used motors sold by the firm’s dealers, pinpoint the vehicle’s exact location.
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But it admits sharing car owner information and vehicle location details with third-party bailiffs and recovery firms who repossess the cars.
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Mercedes’ rivals including BMW, Jaguar Land Rover and Volkswagen have all said they do not carry out similar tracking.
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Mercedes customers who buy cars through the official financial arm give their permission when signing lengthy terms and conditions — which often go unread. Mercedes says a clause about “location sensors” is in bold print just above a customer’s signature on finance contracts
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GM's OnStar may or may not be used for repossession of vehicles. GM admits only to tracking vehicles when provided with a law enforcement order.
If the previous owners can track the sold goods, how can one claim to own anything? But then digital goods that people buy, such as films, books etc. Can be removed at a moments notice without compensation, because everything nowadays is loaned not bought.
 
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If the previous owners can track the sold goods, how can one claim to own anything? But then digital goods that people buy, such as films, books etc. Can be removed at a moments notice without compensation, because everything nowadays is loaned not bought.
I tend to go with hardware not software purchases, but your point is well made.

Even automobiles are controlled with software which, technically, is not actually owned by the automobile purchaser.
 
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I can't believe these answers, basically saying it's ok for Mercedes to do this. Even with full, fair disclosure, this seems to be a terrible idea. Hackers could track vehicles, the company could do "back door" deals to track for other reasons.

Well, maybe they should have paid their car payment and their car wouldn't be in danger.

Obey the law and you will never be in trouble......

Edit: (missed the irony here when I posted; I'll be hiding and hoping there's no trackers on me that I don't know about)

Here is a more reasonable response, in my opinion:

Ex-Cabinet minister David Davis today called for the Government to investigate.

He added: “This is not the first time big business has behaved like Big Brother — but it’s rare to be quite as deceitful as this.

“I have to question whether it is even legal to pass on information to other people such as bailiffs.

“I would think the relevant minister ought to look very closely at the legality of this procedure.”
 
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I can't believe these answers, basically saying it's ok for Mercedes to do this. Even with full, fair disclosure, this seems to be a terrible idea. Hackers could track vehicles, the company could do "back door" deals to track for other reasons.





Here is a more reasonable response, in my opinion:
Erm. Read my post again. Irony people, irony.
 
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I can't believe these answers, basically saying it's ok for Mercedes to do this. Even with full, fair disclosure, this seems to be a terrible idea. Hackers could track vehicles, the company could do "back door" deals to track for other reasons.





Edit: (missed the irony here when I posted; I'll be hiding and hoping there's no trackers on me that I don't know about)

Here is a more reasonable response, in my opinion:
Sorry, I forgot to add my sarcasm emoji. My main complaint is that some people will voice concerns over things like this in one country while simultaneously supporting the same tactics in another country.
 
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