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In blue Seattle, Trump supporters are starting to come out of hiding

When word got out during the last presidential election that Seattle developer Martin Selig would be supporting Donald Trump, the blowback from our liberal town, he said, was “stunning.”

“Do you know what it’s like being a Jewish Republican in Seattle?”
Selig told The Seattle Times. “The repercussions of what you hear from people is stunning.”

In reaction, Selig, a billionaire, retreated from any affiliation with Trump in 2016 and said he wouldn’t even vote for him. It had become problematic just getting along in the city while wearing a MAGA hat.


But that was then. This spring, Selig went all-in for Trump, maxing out to the president’s campaign with a donation of $5,600.

In Washington state, where his approval rating is
28 points underwater, Trump has still racked up far more donations, big and small, than any of the Democratic candidates — in fact more than the top six Democrats combined.

I’m not talking about total dollars raised — though on that front
Trump is a juggernaut, too. But the total number of donations reflects how many people are inspired enough by a candidate to send any amount of money, sometimes repeatedly. As I wrote in 2016, about how democratic socialist candidate Bernie Sanders was swamping the field in the donations category, “it’s like a measure of people power.”

Well, now Trump, of all candidates, has nearly three times as many donations from Washington state as Bernie Sanders does. The Vermont senator has 8,080 itemized donations here, while Trump has the most ever recorded at this point in an election, by any candidate in either party, 21,657.

As an aside: Editor’s note: Due to a high number of comments that violated our terms of service, the thread has been closed to new comments. Somehow I don't think those comments came from Trump supporters.

How many other states might this be happening in?
 

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I'm genuinely curious as to why people in that state would vote for Trump. (A real explanation, not "They're evil bigots" or something.)
I suspect people in that state would vote for Trump for the same reason people in any state would vote for him; because they agree with his policies, or they prefer him over the alternative.
 
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I'm glad to see this happening, and hope it is nationwide, as I believe it is. The various reasons why would be interesting to discover. Perhaps it is the economy, perhaps the radical shift of the Democrat Party to the left, perhaps the failed Mueller investigation which we were for two years assured had uncovered hard evidence of collusion. Or perhaps people are getting tired of enforced establishment group-think.
 
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The West Coast states used to be marginally Republican, but not anymore. Most of the Rocky Mountain states used to be solidly Republican, but CO is now marginally Democratic or at least a toss-up. Nevada is now marginally Democratic. NM is fast becoming a safe Democratic state and AZ is quickly becoming a swing state.
 
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This is comparing apples and oranges right now.

First, how many donors does Trump have versus the entire Democratic field (the article says more than top 6, does he have more than the top 7, what about all 20? He only faces one of those, it’s divided now but if the Democratic Party unites after the primary, their total number is relevant.

Second, a lot of people who don’t have someone they are gung-ho for in the primary wait to donate until the nominee from the party is decided. There is very little certainty on who will take the nomination for Democrats. I think we all are quite certain the Republicans are going to nominate Trump.

Third, Selig already donated his limit for 2020 (primary and general (or the Seattle Times pointed out a campaign finance violation because you can only donate $2800 each election (primary and general are counted separately))). All primary candidates in the Democratic Party still can pick up another $2800 from each donor, Trump might have tapped out some donors (we know Selig has).

These numbers are encouraging for Trump but don’t start acting like he has sown up Washington.
 
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This is comparing apples and oranges right now.

First, how many donors does Trump have versus the entire Democratic field (the article says more than top 6, does he have more than the top 7, what about all 20? He only faces one of those, it’s divided now but if the Democratic Party unites after the primary, their total number is relevant.

Second, a lot of people who don’t have someone they are gung-ho for in the primary wait to donate until the nominee from the party is decided. There is very little certainty on who will take the nomination for Democrats. I think we all are quite certain the Republicans are going to nominate Trump.

Third, Selig already donated his limit for 2020 (primary and general (or the Seattle Times pointed out a campaign finance violation because you can only donate $2800 each election (primary and general are counted separately))). All primary candidates in the Democratic Party still can pick up another $2800 from each donor, Trump might have tapped out some donors (we know Selig has).

These numbers are encouraging for Trump but don’t start acting like he has sown up Washington.
It’s trending, I tell ya! It’s a trend. The economy is great. No recession no healthcare plan no problem.
 
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I'm glad to see this happening, and hope it is nationwide, as I believe it is. The various reasons why would be interesting to discover. Perhaps it is the economy, perhaps the radical shift of the Democrat Party to the left, perhaps the failed Mueller investigation which we were for two years assured had uncovered hard evidence of collusion. Or perhaps people are getting tired of enforced establishment group-think.
The radical shift of the GOP to the far right has people upset about, and so Trumpers are coming out to defend themselves and Trump.
 
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This is comparing apples and oranges right now.

First, how many donors does Trump have versus the entire Democratic field (the article says more than top 6, does he have more than the top 7, what about all 20? He only faces one of those, it’s divided now but if the Democratic Party unites after the primary, their total number is relevant.

Second, a lot of people who don’t have someone they are gung-ho for in the primary wait to donate until the nominee from the party is decided. There is very little certainty on who will take the nomination for Democrats. I think we all are quite certain the Republicans are going to nominate Trump.

Third, Selig already donated his limit for 2020 (primary and general (or the Seattle Times pointed out a campaign finance violation because you can only donate $2800 each election (primary and general are counted separately))). All primary candidates in the Democratic Party still can pick up another $2800 from each donor, Trump might have tapped out some donors (we know Selig has).

These numbers are encouraging for Trump but don’t start acting like he has sown up Washington.
There are laws about donation limits? Are they federal or state? When were they passed?
 
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There are laws about donation limits? Are they federal or state? When were they passed?
Federal and they only apply to direct donations to candidates. Citizen's United overturned the limits on independent expenditures. So there is a limit you can give to a candidate, but you can spend as money as you want to promote for the candidate. That's why Super PACs are legal.
 
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I'm genuinely curious as to why people in that state would vote for Trump. (A real explanation, not "They're evil bigots" or something.)

While Seattle is anti-Trump, the whole state is not. And it is a big state. Once you get out of the big three counties around Seattle, it turns red quick.

Most of this is because Seattle and those three counties have dominated the political discussion in the state. As the saying goes here, why should Spokane pay for a stadium/bridge/etc. for Seattle. Many people vote Republican to get back at the Seattle liberals. Others honestly believe things will be better under Trump.
 
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Anyone see this sentence in the article?

So what, you may be saying, Trump’s not going to win out here anyway. True.

Donors mean nothing. It's electoral votes that count. Trump's chance of winning WA's EVs is jack squat. The article admits that.

And anyway, it should be obvious that the big Seattle technology money is waiting on the sidelines for a Democratic frontrunner. Check back in 8 or 9 months and we'll see in which direction the cash flow is going.
 
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While Seattle is anti-Trump, the whole state is not. And it is a big state. Once you get out of the big three counties around Seattle, it turns red quick.

Most of this is because Seattle and those three counties have dominated the political discussion in the state. As the saying goes here, why should Spokane pay for a stadium/bridge/etc. for Seattle. Many people vote Republican to get back at the Seattle liberals. Others honestly believe things will be better under Trump.

I'm in Spokane and that is no longer true. More and more are liberals, many of whom have come from Seattle, Portland, CA etc. trying to escape the high cost of living. They are bringing their leftist politics with them. All but one of the city council is Democrat In the 2016 election all but 3 or 4 zip codes went for Hillary.

I don't for one second believe WA will go red or for Trump. But the fact that there are thousands on the West Side donating their money does show that Trump will likely pick up more votes compared to last time.
 
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Anyone see this sentence in the article?

So what, you may be saying, Trump’s not going to win out here anyway. True.

Donors mean nothing. It's electoral votes that count. Trump's chance of winning WA's EVs is jack squat. The article admits that.

And anyway, it should be obvious that the big Seattle technology money is waiting on the sidelines for a Democratic frontrunner. Check back in 8 or 9 months and we'll see in which direction the cash flow is going.

You missed the point of this very biased article which by the way docs the donors who will likely face backlash. This is about Trump picking up WA. It's about thousands more who are supporting him that didn't before. They're not stupid. They see what Trump has done and how the DNC has pivoted so far left that many have walked away. But keep telling yourself that it's gonna be ok... that Biden will pull out a win.
 
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