Biden lies about the President. Multiple times

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Biden Lies is the topic of the thread with supporting links.

Sorry I hit a nerve,

This is your OP:

Democratic frontrunner Joe Biden on Wednesday claimed President Donald Trump asserted that immigrants would "carve you up with a knife," but Biden took Trump's words out of context and didn't mention he was referring to the murderous MS-13 gang.

Biden Takes Trump's Comments on MS-13 Out of Context

Think he will retract?

It was specifically about your claim that VP Biden lied about Donald. After folks explained that erroneous claim to you, you apparently then decided to try to find whatever you could to show that VP Biden lied about Donald. All you've shown is a quibbling over semantics. You've failed to show any blatant lies from VP Biden, just instead rehashing some of the ugliest things Donald has said. In the process of doing that, you're not helping Donald out one bit.

No, you haven't hit a nerve. Folks are just following right along as you zig zag from your actual OP. It does take a lot of nerve to swerve from that OP repeatedly but tsk tsk folks who don't stay precisely within the lines of that OP.
 
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This is your OP:



It was specifically about your claim that VP Biden lied about Donald. After folks explained that erroneous claim to you, you apparently then decided to try to find whatever you could to show that VP Biden lied about Donald. All you've shown is a quibbling over semantics. You've failed to show any blatant lies from VP Biden, just instead rehashing some of the ugliest things Donald has said. In the process of doing that, you're not helping Donald out one bit.

No, you haven't hit a nerve. Folks are just following right along as you zig zag from your actual OP. It does take a lot of nerve to swerve from that OP repeatedly but tsk tsk folks who don't stay precisely within the lines of that OP.

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Anything about Biden lies?
 
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Thank you for your opinion.

You're welcome for pointing out the facts for you.

If you feel I have Broken forum rules please feel free to use the report button

Ok, not something I like to do, but sure, if that's what you want.

Anything about Biden lies?

Yes. Read the post of mine you just quoted. I've written multiple posts about the dishonesty of characterizing the incidents you've brought to our attn as lies.
 
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Yes. Read the post of mine you just quoted. I've written multiple posts about the dishonesty of characterizing the incidents you've brought to our attn as lies.

Rest assured that the moral character of the President will once again be a very important moral issue for a lot of people if the next President elected is a liberal Democrat. We can already see this morality shift starting to happen with the complaints that Joe Biden allegedly lied about Donald Trump. I mean, for more than two years now we've been chastised and repeatedly told that Trump shouldn't be judged for his sins because his sins are between him and God. We've been chastised with "Who among us is without sin?" and now look at all these stones being cast at Biden for allegedly lying about Trump.
 
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Apparently Politifact is only an acceptable source when it favors Trump.
That's kind of the point, isn't it? When you have an organization that leans left and generally does it it can to debase this President... then when they verify something that ends up in favor of Trump... it carries more weight than had Fox News run it.
 
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Oh my! Suddenly we're concerned about lying! Seriously, after 10,000 plus lies from the current POTUS himself, it hard to believe that his supporters care about lying.
 
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Good that Biden’s supporters support him as strongly as Trumps do.

But he still lied.
There has been one human that has never lied. Every other human that has ever lived has lied.

Stop making false equivalences between these two. It's patently ludicrous.
 
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Oh my! Suddenly we're concerned about lying! Seriously, after 10,000 plus lies from the current POTUS himself, it hard to believe that his supporters care about lying.

I think if Joe Biden was a Republican and he was being loyally supported by conservatives as Donald Trump is, then we wouldn't be hearing the slightest whisper about his alleged lying habit. We would instead be hearing that he shouldn't be judged for his sins or for his past. On the same token, if Trump was a Democrat instead of pretending to be a Republican, he would have been long condemned by all the conservatives who are supporting him now. Like I said earlier, we shouldn't take this seriously.
 
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Oh my! Suddenly we're concerned about lying! Seriously, after 10,000 plus lies from the current POTUS himself, it hard to believe that his supporters care about lying.

Hi DD,
Yes. that seems to be the point. If someone who favors the current leadership of our nation, can point out that someone else who wants the job has lied, then they can point their fingers and say, "See! Your person does it, too!!"

However, I'm a pragmatist, I believe. I'm also a believer in the one true and living God and His Son, Jesus. I know, yes I know, that we're all liars to some degree. I'm fairly confident that we've all lied about something in our lifetime. So, for me it's a matter of degree. Yes, we're all liars, but we're not all consummate liars. People who just continually and regularly don't tell the truth or shade the truth to push some position that we believe in.

So, when I see people try to push some agenda where they say that someone else told one or two lies, to get me to consider that they're just like the guy that lies pretty much every time his mouth is open, I say no. It just isn't the same no matter how much you'd like me to believe that it is. That's my understanding of this issue of lying in the political arena.

Secondly, not everything that turns out to be not true, was given as a lie when it was said, or was a lie when it was said. For example: Many point out that President Obama made the comment that everyone could keep their own doctor under the new ACA. However, in President Obama's defense, he made that claim before the legislature had cobbled together the entire bill. He likely believed that the bill that would eventually come to his desk for signing would allow everyone to keep their old doctor. I think the reason that people had to change doctors is because the doctor didn't want to keep them. He, for whatever reason, didn't choose to accept whatever new insurance his patients may have gotten after the ACA.

I was sharing with another poster on these boards in another thread about the ACA who said that was exactly what happened to one of his loved ones. They wanted to keep their old doctor, but the doctor decided that he wasn't going to accept the new insurance. So, I believe to be more correct, President Obama should have said that everyone will get to keep their old doctor so long as their old doctor accepted the new plans.

But nevertheless, I don't believe that when President Obama made the statement that he made concerning the issue, that it was a lie. Again, that's just my understanding and I know that a lot of folks will say that I'm giving President Obama a pass. Maybe.

God bless,
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When he has a verified count of 10,000+, as Triump does, I will concede that point.

But sit back. You've got a looooooooooooooong wait, probably till the twelfth of never.

In the meantime, every Democratic candidate is a huge improvement over Trump. Even Marianne Williamson.
 
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When he has a verified count of 10,000+, as Triump does, I will concede that point.

But sit back. You've got a looooooooooooooong wait, probably till the twelfth of never.

In the meantime, every Democratic candidate is a huge improvement over Trump. Even Marianne Williamson.

If any of the liberals who support Biden are criticized for supporting him, then they can always use this very popular excuse "I voted for a President, not a Pastor!" to refute the disingenuous criticism.
 
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When he has a verified count of 10,000+, as Triump does, I will concede that point.

But sit back. You've got a looooooooooooooong wait, probably till the twelfth of never.

In the meantime, every Democratic candidate is a huge improvement over Trump. Even Marianne Williamson.

That's exactly it. The original post disintegrated upon inspection, so then the original poster went out hunting for things to try to convince folks that Biden was a habitual liar. It's evident that effort was put into this. And even then his own sources say "reportedly lied" on account of how it's not blatant. Like I wrote before, something can be false without it being a lie, intent to deceive is the difference. You don't have to dig back through decades to find examples of alleged dishonesty from Donald. You don't have to examine it, or quibble over semantics. It's not merely a case of misspeaking, or simply being in error. With Donald it's frequently not even necessary to use a fact-checking site, on account of how his lies are so obvious. He brazenly, habitually lies. Oftentimes maliciously. He endorses malicious lies. He's just done that this weekend, endorsing slander against a former president. He blatantly lies when it's absolutely unnecessary to. He repeats lies even after being corrected. I'm careful with what I write on account of how some are quick to think that Donald's being flamed, but this isn't flaming, it's stating the well-demonstrated truth about Donald's habitual lying. This thread has done Biden a solid, showing him in a much brighter light in contrast to Donald.
 
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