A Catholic bishop in Texas is publicly accusing President Trump of racism
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I'm relieved to see more Christians willing to raise their political voice to take a stand against Trump.
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He's got nothing to lose. He knows full well that if Trump gets a second term and the opportunity to replace Ginsberg that Roe v. Wade will fall and the detente between Catholics and Evangelicals arranged by Paul Weyrich over the abortion issue will be dissolved. Catholics will go back to being second-class citizens, not "real" Christians any more.
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Well, remarks like this would appear to be very unusual for a Catholic Bishop or even for most Protestant clergy. No doubt that the killings in El Paso have hit many in Texas very hard, especially those that are of Mexican heritage or those non-Hispanics who have deep ties to the Hispanic community.
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But, missing most of their money -- correct?
Saw a story regarding mass amounts of monies disappearing.
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God reached out to me there when I was 3 & 1/2 yrs old. So I already knew Him when I showed up for 1st grade catechism. I'm looking in the book at a picture of a man in a white robe with long hair & a beard, children running toward him smiling & laughing. I look up and all the priests are closely barbered and I couldn't tell if the nuns even had any hair, lol. They are all in scary black and the kids are scared to death of them.
So in 4th grade when they tried to "teach" me transubstantiation, every classical objection naturally occurred to me. Poor nun had no defenses against my relentless objections until finally the recess bell rang. She was saved by the bell, lol. On my way out I jumped in front of Father Blackwell, the new young priest (still friendly) that everyone liked, so I could get a more candid answer by being swift with the surprise of it. I think I actualy raised my finger at him as I asked him, "Do you REALLY believe: the wine turns to blood, the bread turns to flesh?"
He came to attention, raised his chin, tilting his head back, and he looked in a swoon. His eyes rolled up as they closed and he rapturously exclaimed, "Yes!"
I step aside saying, "Thank you." and walked outside realizing just how out of touch with reality they all were, and that I was going to have to learn to keep my head down until I was old enough to walk away.
In 6th grade, my teacher had said I was either going to be a priest or a politician. I remember saying nothing, but thinking, "I'd rather just dig ditches and make an honest living." lol
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So you disagree with some Roman Catholic beliefs. Does that make them not Christians just because you think the beliefs silly and unfounded? What about Christians who believe that the Earth is only 6000 years old? Or flat? Are they not Christians either?
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LOL, calm down a little, bro. I WAS an RC.
It was a categorical statement, not a condemnation of every individual soul under it's tent.
I happen to believe the earth is flat & about 6000yrs old, but I don't think that's enough to make me Christian. I am content to let others decide for themselves what to believe about me generaly, but I agree with Calvinist soteriology, thinking it contains the free will vs predestination problem nicely. Not accurate to call me a Calvinist though, because I part ways with him on sacramentology and ecclesiology - especially in the area of (ahem...) church discipline.
It is true ( I admit) I find many unchristian beliefs silly and unfounded, but I haven't avoided studying out how & why, so I'm happy to discuss if truth and clarity are the target of discussion, and not me.
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