i know i can search it on google but i want to hear from you, different voices.
my 2 sisters don't condemn homosexuality, are they lukewarm?
my 2 sisters don't condemn homosexuality, are they lukewarm?
Either they don't know, or they do know but ignore, or they don't want to know.i know i can search it on google but i want to hear from you, different voices.
my 2 sisters don't condemn homosexuality, are they lukewarm?
you are talking jesus talking about condemn the person, i talk about the church rejecting the sin called homosexualityOne verse "Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination." See God made man and woman. Its very sacred to God. God said.. man leaves home then the woman leaves home and becomes one. Two man or two women .. this will never happen. Nor can live keep going. Both would have to go out side of "marriage" to have kids. On and on..
There is more in the word. And no your sisters are not luke warm. I love this true story. This young gay man gets kick out. His friend lets him stay with them. One day at the table the friend asks him "what about Jesus?" The gay young man said.. na been there done that. The friend says "no... if you need someone to laugh with I will be there. If you need someone to get mad at I am here. If you need someone to cry with I am here. If you fall I will not judge you or condemn you" <---this is Jesus. That young gay man is married and has tons of kids. Maybe not tons. And the desire for the same sex? Gone.. as if it was never that. Jesus is real.
Jesus also said to judge righteously.You are treading on dangerously shaky "religiously judgmental" ground here, in that it is very easy to fall into Satan's trap of condemning the people caught in this. Jesus never did that. He loved even the most lowly sinner.
"For when we were yet sinners...….." Romans 5:8
As you said, you and I were ALSO condemned before Jesus saved us.Jesus also said to judge righteously.
There's a distinction between judging and condemning. I'm sure you know that, but sometimes people use the words synonymously. Like the OP I'm assuming.
Sometimes it seems like we're condemning. Because God says, people who commit these sins, adultery, homosexuality, murder, etc., will not enter heaven.
So when you tell a homosexual that, it seems like you're condemning them.
We don't have to condemn them. They're already condemned.
"but whoever does not believe has already been condemned".
I would say this is rarely the case.The gay young man said.. na been there done that. The friend says "no... if you need someone to laugh with I will be there. If you need someone to get mad at I am here. If you need someone to cry with I am here. If you fall I will not judge you or condemn you" <---this is Jesus. That young gay man is married and has tons of kids. Maybe not tons. And the desire for the same sex? Gone.. as if it was never that. Jesus is real.
Yes.As you said, you and I were ALSO condemned before Jesus saved us.
Don't forget the rest of the verse, where Jesus says to judge without being hypocritical.Condemning a sin and condemning a person (judging) are two different things. To condemn homosexuality as a sin is obvious. It is a sin, it will always be a sin, and it is therefore condemned as one. To condemn a person for that sin is an entirely different matter only subject to God's judgement, not yours or mine.
"Matthew 7:2 For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again."
tell me who talked about condemning peopleYou are treading on dangerously shaky "religiously judgmental" ground here, in that it is very easy to fall into Satan's trap of condemning the people caught in this. Jesus never did that. He loved even the most lowly sinner.
"For when we were yet sinners...….." Romans 5:8
(To only answer your isolated question, "Yes", the Bible does condemn the act of homosexuality.… in several places. Use your concordance or your computer's search feature.)
Just be careful, you may already be on the road to condemnation of someone for doing something else, and not even realize it.tell me who talked about condemning people
It also condemns a lying tongue, adultery, fornication, false witness....oh mercy just...You are treading on dangerously shaky "religiously judgmental" ground here, in that it is very easy to fall into Satan's trap of condemning the people caught in this. Jesus never did that. He loved even the most lowly sinner.
"For when we were yet sinners...….." Romans 5:8
(To only answer your isolated question, "Yes", the Bible does condemn the act of homosexuality.… in several places. Use your concordance or your computer's search feature.)
I don’t walk in a spirit of condemnation. One person’s struggle with homosexuality is no worse than the adulterer. Berating someone won’t bring them to a place of repentance.
I don’t know about you. But I don’t have anyone camping on my doorstep or confronting me with posters denouncing my sins. Maybe that’s the problem.
Maybe if we bore scarlet letters emblazoned on us by God that displayed our sin we’d find the compassion and love we’re lacking when dealing with others.
What would yours say?
Condemning a sin and condemning a person (judging) are two different things. To condemn homosexuality as a sin is obvious. It is a sin, it will always be a sin, and it is therefore condemned as one. To condemn a person for that sin is an entirely different matter only subject to God's judgement, not yours or mine.
"Matthew 7:2 For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again."
Can I offer my opinion on this particular side of the topic? Not assuming you agree or disagree with anything here
Did you ask them why? That might be helpful to find out what mindset they are operating out of.i know i can search it on google but i want to hear from you, different voices.
my 2 sisters don't condemn homosexuality, are they lukewarm?
my 2 sisters don't condemn homosexuality, are they lukewarm?