what the bible says about homosexuality

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i know i can search it on google but i want to hear from you, different voices.
my 2 sisters don't condemn homosexuality, are they lukewarm?
Either they don't know, or they do know but ignore, or they don't want to know.

The Bible condemns homosexuality.

"Or do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: neither the sexually immoral, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor men who practice homosexuality, nor thieves, nor the greedy, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God." (1 Corinthians 6:9-10)
 
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One verse "Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination." See God made man and woman. Its very sacred to God. God said.. man leaves home then the woman leaves home and becomes one. Two man or two women .. this will never happen. Nor can live keep going. Both would have to go out side of "marriage" to have kids. On and on..

There is more in the word. And :) no your sisters are not luke warm. I love this true story. This young gay man gets kick out. His friend lets him stay with them. One day at the table the friend asks him "what about Jesus?" The gay young man said.. na been there done that. The friend says "no... if you need someone to laugh with I will be there. If you need someone to get mad at I am here. If you need someone to cry with I am here. If you fall I will not judge you or condemn you" <---this is Jesus. That young gay man is married and has tons of kids. Maybe not tons. And the desire for the same sex? Gone.. as if it was never that. Jesus is real.
 
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One verse "Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination." See God made man and woman. Its very sacred to God. God said.. man leaves home then the woman leaves home and becomes one. Two man or two women .. this will never happen. Nor can live keep going. Both would have to go out side of "marriage" to have kids. On and on..

There is more in the word. And :) no your sisters are not luke warm. I love this true story. This young gay man gets kick out. His friend lets him stay with them. One day at the table the friend asks him "what about Jesus?" The gay young man said.. na been there done that. The friend says "no... if you need someone to laugh with I will be there. If you need someone to get mad at I am here. If you need someone to cry with I am here. If you fall I will not judge you or condemn you" <---this is Jesus. That young gay man is married and has tons of kids. Maybe not tons. And the desire for the same sex? Gone.. as if it was never that. Jesus is real.
you are talking jesus talking about condemn the person, i talk about the church rejecting the sin called homosexuality
 
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You are treading on dangerously shaky "religiously judgmental" ground here, in that it is very easy to fall into Satan's trap of condemning the people caught in this. Jesus never did that. He loved even the most lowly sinner.

"For when we were yet sinners...….." Romans 5:8

(To only answer your isolated question, "Yes", the Bible does condemn the act of homosexuality.… in several places. Use your concordance or your computer's search feature.)
 
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You are treading on dangerously shaky "religiously judgmental" ground here, in that it is very easy to fall into Satan's trap of condemning the people caught in this. Jesus never did that. He loved even the most lowly sinner.

"For when we were yet sinners...….." Romans 5:8
Jesus also said to judge righteously.
There's a distinction between judging and condemning. I'm sure you know that, but sometimes people use the words synonymously. Like the OP I'm assuming.

Sometimes it seems like we're condemning. Because God says, people who commit these sins, adultery, homosexuality, murder, etc., will not enter heaven.
So when you tell a homosexual that, it seems like you're condemning them.

We don't have to condemn them. They're already condemned.
"but whoever does not believe has already been condemned".
 
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Jesus also said to judge righteously.
There's a distinction between judging and condemning. I'm sure you know that, but sometimes people use the words synonymously. Like the OP I'm assuming.

Sometimes it seems like we're condemning. Because God says, people who commit these sins, adultery, homosexuality, murder, etc., will not enter heaven.
So when you tell a homosexual that, it seems like you're condemning them.

We don't have to condemn them. They're already condemned.
"but whoever does not believe has already been condemned".
As you said, you and I were ALSO condemned before Jesus saved us.
 
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Condemning a sin and condemning a person (judging) are two different things. To condemn homosexuality as a sin is obvious. It is a sin, it will always be a sin, and it is therefore condemned as one. To condemn a person for that sin is an entirely different matter only subject to God's judgement, not yours or mine.

"Matthew 7:2 For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again."
 
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1 Corinthians 6:9 Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind,
1 Corinthians 6:10 Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.

Effeminate here is:


G3120
µa?a??´?
malakos
Thayer Definition:
1) soft, soft to the touch
2) metaphorically in a bad sense
2a) effeminate
2a1) of a catamite
2a2) of a boy kept for homosexual relations with a man
2a3) of a male who submits his body to unnatural lewdness
2a4) of a male prostitute
Part of Speech: adjective
A Related Word by Thayer’s/Strong’s Number: of uncertain affinity

It refers to the effeminate and the homosexual nature to be sexually submissive to another male. God does not only oppose homosexual acts but the very unnatural homosexual nature itself.


Leviticus 18:22 You shall not lie with a male as those who lie with a female; it is an abomination.


Leviticus 18:22 Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination.


Leviticus 20:13 If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.



Romans 1:22 Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools,
Romans 1:23 And changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into an image made like to corruptible man, and to birds, and fourfooted beasts, and creeping things.
Romans 1:24 Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves:
Romans 1:25 Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen.
Romans 1:26 For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature:
Romans 1:27 And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.
Romans 1:28 And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient;
Romans 1:29 Being filled with all unrighteousness, fornication, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, debate, deceit, malignity; whisperers,
Romans 1:30 Backbiters, haters of God, despiteful, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents,
Romans 1:31 Without understanding, covenantbreakers, without natural affection, implacable, unmerciful:
Romans 1:32 Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them.




1 Timothy 1:9 Knowing this, that the law is not made for a righteous man, but for the lawless and disobedient, for the ungodly and for sinners, for unholy and profane, for murderers of fathers and murderers of mothers, for manslayers,
1 Timothy 1:10 For whoremongers, for them that defile themselves with mankind, for menstealers, for liars, for perjured persons, and if there be any other thing that is contrary to sound doctrine;



Jude 1:7 Even as Sodom and Gomorrha, and the cities about them in like manner, giving themselves over to fornication, and going after strange flesh, are set forth for an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire.




Scripture condemns homosexuals themselves as well as their sexual acts.


Romans 1:22 Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools,
Romans 1:23 And changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into an image made like to corruptible man, and to birds, and fourfooted beasts, and creeping things.
Romans 1:24 Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves:
Romans 1:25 Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen.
Romans 1:26 For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature:
Romans 1:27 And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.
Romans 1:28 And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient;
Romans 1:29 Being filled with all unrighteousness, fornication, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, debate, deceit, malignity; whisperers,
Romans 1:30 Backbiters, haters of God, despiteful, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents,
Romans 1:31 Without understanding, covenantbreakers, without natural affection, implacable, unmerciful:
Romans 1:32 Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them.



1 Corinthians 6:9 Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind,
1 Corinthians 6:10 Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.



1 Timothy 1:9 Knowing this, that the law is not made for a righteous man, but for the lawless and disobedient, for the ungodly and for sinners, for unholy and profane, for murderers of fathers and murderers of mothers, for manslayers,
1 Timothy 1:10 For whoremongers, for them that defile themselves with mankind, for menstealers, for liars, for perjured persons, and if there be any other thing that is contrary to sound doctrine;



Jude 1:7 Even as Sodom and Gomorrha, and the cities about them in like manner, giving themselves over to fornication, and going after strange flesh, are set forth for an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire.

1Co 5:9 I did write to you in the epistle, not to keep company with whoremongers--
1Co 5:10 and not certainly with the whoremongers of this world, or with the covetous, or extortioners, or idolaters, seeing ye ought then to go forth out of the world--
1Co 5:11 and now, I did write to you not to keep company with him , if any one, being named a brother, may be a whoremonger, or covetous, or an idolater, or a railer, or a drunkard, or an extortioner--with such a one not even to eat together;

whoremonger here is the word inappropriate contentos:

G4205
p?´????
inappropriate contentos
por'-nos
From pe´???µ? perne¯mi (to sell; akin to the base of G4097); a (male) prostitute (as venal), that is, (by analogy) a debauchee (libertine): - fornicator, whoremonger.

It's a reference to male homosexuals, whether as a prostitute or by analogy a man who is a debauchee, someone who delights in perverted sexual experiences ie: homosexual.
 
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The gay young man said.. na been there done that. The friend says "no... if you need someone to laugh with I will be there. If you need someone to get mad at I am here. If you need someone to cry with I am here. If you fall I will not judge you or condemn you" <---this is Jesus. That young gay man is married and has tons of kids. Maybe not tons. And the desire for the same sex? Gone.. as if it was never that. Jesus is real.
I would say this is rarely the case.
As you said, you and I were ALSO condemned before Jesus saved us.
Yes.

But we're talking about homosexuals being condemned.
 
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Condemning a sin and condemning a person (judging) are two different things. To condemn homosexuality as a sin is obvious. It is a sin, it will always be a sin, and it is therefore condemned as one. To condemn a person for that sin is an entirely different matter only subject to God's judgement, not yours or mine.

"Matthew 7:2 For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again."
Don't forget the rest of the verse, where Jesus says to judge without being hypocritical.
Matthew 7:5
 
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You are treading on dangerously shaky "religiously judgmental" ground here, in that it is very easy to fall into Satan's trap of condemning the people caught in this. Jesus never did that. He loved even the most lowly sinner.

"For when we were yet sinners...….." Romans 5:8

(To only answer your isolated question, "Yes", the Bible does condemn the act of homosexuality.… in several places. Use your concordance or your computer's search feature.)
tell me who talked about condemning people
 
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tell me who talked about condemning people
Just be careful, you may already be on the road to condemnation of someone for doing something else, and not even realize it.

One of the most dangerous positions for a Christian is to settle in a place where they know they are "right", thus making another person or group "wrong."
 
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You are treading on dangerously shaky "religiously judgmental" ground here, in that it is very easy to fall into Satan's trap of condemning the people caught in this. Jesus never did that. He loved even the most lowly sinner.

"For when we were yet sinners...….." Romans 5:8

(To only answer your isolated question, "Yes", the Bible does condemn the act of homosexuality.… in several places. Use your concordance or your computer's search feature.)
It also condemns a lying tongue, adultery, fornication, false witness....oh mercy just...
Just pray for all sinners and let God do the judging.
 
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I don’t walk in a spirit of condemnation. One person’s struggle with homosexuality is no worse than the adulterer. Berating someone won’t bring them to a place of repentance.

I don’t know about you. But I don’t have anyone camping on my doorstep or confronting me with posters denouncing my sins. Maybe that’s the problem.

Maybe if we bore scarlet letters emblazoned on us by God that displayed our sin we’d find the compassion and love we’re lacking when dealing with others.

What would yours say?

Can I offer my opinion on this particular side of the topic? Not assuming you agree or disagree with anything here:

I think think the reason homosexuality sin such a popular commodity today is the fact that we are being BOMBARDED by the media, billboards, TV, movies, social media, news agencies, corporations, our workplace, and even the odd church telling us that homosexuality is not a sin and that essentially we need to "get over it".

The two most popular Christian sins in this generation are homosexuality and abortion. When Christians speak of abortion being a sin, they are not accused of hating the women committing the sin. Their argument is that it's the woman's body ad therefore she has the right to do as she sees fit. I question why the same argument isn't used for homosexuals? It seems many secular individuals, as well as many Christians condemn Christians for pointing out the sin of homosexuals as if Christians are haters or simply judging. I've seen a lot of Pastors on YouTube preaching all areas of the city but as soon as they set foot on the gay district they are ostracized.

Given the amount of publicity (as previously stated) homosexuality gets today, I do think that the homosexual community needs to hear that carrying on in their sin is going to land them in hell. I don't see condemning homosexual sin as hate, but rather love. If preaching is done in order to save these lost people, then really it's being done out of love.

The media today is doing all it can to project an image of Christians (all or almost all Christians) hating homosexuals and preaching only from a position of judgement on their persons. Rather than fall back due to these lies and slander, I say continue on without fear, and be direct and clear in our message. These people also need saving.
 
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Condemning a sin and condemning a person (judging) are two different things. To condemn homosexuality as a sin is obvious. It is a sin, it will always be a sin, and it is therefore condemned as one. To condemn a person for that sin is an entirely different matter only subject to God's judgement, not yours or mine.

"Matthew 7:2 For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again."


Your correct it does in fact say what you said it does, but when we look at the verses following what we then see, is what Jesus was actually speaking about.

Mat 7:2-5
2) For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again.
3) And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye?
4) Or how wilt thou say to thy brother, Let me pull out the mote out of thine eye; and, behold, a beam is in thine own eye?
5) Thou hypocrite, first cast out the beam out of thine own eye; and then shalt thou see clearly to cast out the mote out of thy brother's eye.

So, it would appear as though Jesus was speaking directly about making
Un-Righteous Judgment, and not, not judging at all.
 
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Can I offer my opinion on this particular side of the topic? Not assuming you agree or disagree with anything here

Love isn’t conditional. I don’t get a media pass or any other. Most of it is meant to divide and enrage. I need to look beyond the natural and seek the heavenly perspective and solution.

You are welcome to take the course you believe is best. I’ve seen the fruit of the one I’m treading. Its filled with miracles, blessings and abundance. I will continue to live as I’m led.
 
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i know i can search it on google but i want to hear from you, different voices.
my 2 sisters don't condemn homosexuality, are they lukewarm?
Did you ask them why? That might be helpful to find out what mindset they are operating out of.
 
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my 2 sisters don't condemn homosexuality, are they lukewarm?

No, I believe that falls into the category of cold and dead.

When people put on Spiritual Blinders, they are never able to see and understand what the Bible says and receive it as truth, they would rather believe the lie.

1Cor. 2:14
But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.
 
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