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That was this weekend in Chicago. No one cares. This constant violence in our cities has no place in the political narrative.

I figured it at least deserved a headline.


CHICAGO — While much of the nation’s attention was focused on the gun massacres in El Paso and Dayton, Ohio, last weekend, Chicago was convulsed by its own burst of violence — the worst weekend the city has seen so far in 2019.

It was an extreme example of the routine but devastating gun violence, often related to gang conflicts, that cities like Chicago, Baltimore and St. Louis experience on a regular basis. The police said seven people were killed and 52 wounded by gunfire throughout Chicago from Friday evening to Sunday, including a 5-year-old boy who was shot in the leg while sitting in a car.


Early Sunday, 17 people were shot in a period of two hours in a small pocket on the city’s West Side, turning residential blocks into chaotic scenes of ambulances, grieving family members and cars pockmarked with bullets.

There were 32 separate shooting incidents throughout the weekend, the police said.


Chicago Has Its Worst Weekend of Gun Violence in 2019 as 7 Are Killed
 

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That was this weekend in Chicago. No one cares.
It's worse than that. Mentioning the Chicago death toll makes you a racist. And me a racist for not shaming you.
 
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It's been talked about an awful lot, actually. Ivanka Trump following in her daddy's footsteps, making misleading Tweets about the "inner city" violence she claims nobody cares about despite it being very evident that in fact many do care about it. Despite the fact that she's got close proximity to somebody who could actually get off his rear and push for gun reform.

Chicago mayor slams Ivanka Trump for 'misleading' tweets about the city's recent gun violence - CNNPolitics



The point is that in all major cities violence has been ignored. Baltimore has had over 200 murders so far in 2019. Can you even imagine that? The common denominator in all major cities is that the majority of murders are committed in poor black neighborhoods and the the democratic mayors have done zero.

If people cared they would declare immediate Marshall law. If it were in Arlington Virginia they certainly would.
 
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The point is that in all major cities violence has been ignored. Baltimore has had over 200 murders so far in 2019. Can you even imagine that? The common denominator in all major cities is that the majority of murders are committed in poor black neighborhoods and the the democratic mayors have done zero.

If people cared they would declare immediate Marshall law. If it were in Arlington Virginia they certainly would.

Well, you're claiming it's been ignored while posting from a liberal newspaper that wrote an article about it, so you've defeated your own point. Also false that the mayors have done zero. There's also only so much that a mayor has the authority to do.

Congress has tried to pass reasonable gun reform. Mitch has blocked it.

We used to live in Mobile, Alabama. It's got one of the highest crime rates in the United States. The mayor is Republican, as is the governor. There's a lot of little cities in ruby red states that have got high levels of crime. Poverty & violence have long gone hand-in-hand. I'm fixing to head out on a construction mission to a real poor area of the Appalachia. It's nearly all white there. They've got a high level of crime, much of it not even reported. What are you personally doing to help out?
 
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Well, you're claiming it's been ignored while posting from a liberal newspaper that wrote an article about it, so you've defeated your own point. Also false that the mayors have done zero. There's also only so much that a mayor has the authority to do.

Congress has tried to pass reasonable gun reform. Mitch has blocked it.

We used to live in Mobile, Alabama. It's got one of the highest crime rates in the United States. The mayor is Republican, as is the governor. There's a lot of little cities in ruby red states that have got high levels of crime. Poverty & violence have long gone hand-in-hand. I'm fixing to head out on a construction mission to a real poor area of the Appalachia. It's nearly all white there. They've got a high level of crime, much of it not even reported. What are you personally doing to help out?



Reasonable gun reform? Most of the gun reform is aimed at curtailing the rights of law abiding citizens.

we can't legislate morality.


I'm fixing to head out on a construction mission to a real poor area of the Appalachia. It's nearly all white there. They've got a high level of crime, much of it not even reported. What are you personally doing to help out?


Let's see, I am working 50 to 60 hours a week making a living for myself. I don't have the time to run around virtue signaling.

I served my country in the US Army, get up everyday and go to work and have no criminal recorrd.
 
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Reasonable gun reform? Most of the gun reform is aimed at curtailing the rights of law abiding citizens.

we can't legislate morality.





Let's see, I am working 50 to 60 hours a week making a living for myself. I don't have the time to run around virtue signaling.

I served my country in the US Army, get up everyday and go to work and have no criminal recorrd.

Yes, the gun reform is entirely reasonable & law abiding citizens ought to be fully in support of them. My family has owned guns for generations. We're 100% in favor of such reform, having actually learned about it instead of just listening to the NRA's lobbyists.

Let's see, I am working 50 to 60 hours a week making a living for myself. I don't have the time to run around virtue signaling.

But you do have the time for virtue signaling on an internet forum. OK. You see Christians building houses for folks in need as "virtue signaling"? Really? I just call that following the commands of Jesus Christ.

I served my country in the US Army, get up everyday and go to work and have no criminal recorrd.

Exactly the same as my uncle who has been organizing this mission for 20+ years, and exact same as many of the folks on the crew.
 
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Yes, the gun reform is entirely reasonable & law abiding citizens ought to be fully in support of them. My family has owned guns for generations. We're 100% in favor of such reform, having actually learned about it instead of just listening to the NRA's lobbyists.



But you do have the time for virtue signaling on an internet forum. OK. You see Christians building houses for folks in need as "virtue signaling"? Really? I just call that following the commands of Jesus Christ.



Exactly the same as my uncle who has been organizing this mission for 20+ years, and exact same as many of the folks on the crew.



Your the one who touted what you do and my response was that i have to work for a living. In fact it is 9:45 and I am at work now and will leave at 11:30 pm.
 
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Your the one who touted what you do and my response was that i have to work for a living. In fact it is 9:45 and I am at work now and will leave at 11:30 pm.

Instead of demonizing or looking down upon communities that have high levels of violence & poverty, I've explained what I'm doing to actually help out. I guess I could just try griping on the internet?

Everyone on the crew works for a living, too.
 
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They have had legislation in cities like Massachusetts but liberal judges refuse to enforce the sentencing.

Well that's a rather limited telling of events. It faced fierce opposition by NRA who had their lobbyists do all they could to attack it. It was the Mass. Supreme Court, which consisted of both liberal & conservative judges that decided to overrule a conviction on account of how it had no reasonable leeway to it.

The Federal Assault Weapon Ban was pretty darn effective at reducing mass shootings over the weekend, the shooting at Gilroy prior to that. All three of the shooters were young white men using semiautomatic weapons that'd been legally purchased. The ban was passed by Congress in 1994, mainly voted on by Democrats but some Republicans get credit for having voted for it too. President Bill Clinton signed it into law. He's a Democrat. It expired in 2004, under President George W Bush. He's a Republican. Nope, the ban didn't resolve the homicide rate by gun, a problem pretty unique to the US, sad to say. It did, however, have an important impact on the number of mass shootings.

Changes in US mass shooting deaths associated with the 1994–2004 federal assault weapons ban: Analysis of open-source data

BACKGROUND

A federal assault weapons ban has been proposed as a way to reduce mass shootings in the United States. The Federal Assault Weapons Ban of 1994 made the manufacture and civilian use of a defined set of automatic and semiautomatic weapons and large capacity magazines illegal. The ban expired in 2004. The period from 1994 to 2004 serves as a single-arm pre-post observational study to assess the effectiveness of this policy intervention.

METHODS

Mass shooting data for 1981 to 2017 were obtained from three well-documented, referenced, and open-source sets of data, based on media reports. We calculated the yearly rates of mass shooting fatalities as a proportion of total firearm homicide deaths and per US population. We compared the 1994 to 2004 federal ban period to non-ban periods, using simple linear regression models for rates and a Poison model for counts with a year variable to control for trend. The relative effects of the ban period were estimated with odds ratios.

RESULTS

Assault rifles accounted for 430 or 85.8% of the total 501 mass-shooting fatalities reported (95% confidence interval, 82.8–88.9) in 44 mass-shooting incidents. Mass shootings in the United States accounted for an increasing proportion of all firearm-related homicides (coefficient for year, 0.7; p = 0.0003), with increment in year alone capturing over a third of the overall variance in the data (adjusted R2 = 0.3). In a linear regression model controlling for yearly trend, the federal ban period was associated with a statistically significant 9 fewer mass shooting related deaths per 10,000 firearm homicides (p = 0.03). Mass-shooting fatalities were 70% less likely to occur during the federal ban period (relative rate, 0.30; 95% confidence interval, 0.22–0.39).

CONCLUSION

Mass-shooting related homicides in the United States were reduced during the years of the federal assault weapons ban of 1994 to 2004.
 
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Instead of demonizing or looking down upon communities that have high levels of violence & poverty, I've explained what I'm doing to actually help out. I guess I could just try griping on the internet?

Everyone on the crew works for a living, too.

You know what else you’re not gonna read about or hear about is that the Dayton shooter is/was a staunch Betsy Warren supporter. No, but we hear all about the El Paso shooter being a Trump supporter.
 
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You know what else you’re not gonna read about or hear about is that the Dayton shooter is/was a staunch Betsy Warren supporter. No, but we hear all about the El Paso shooter being a Trump supporter.

There's already been several threads about that right here, so I have no idea where you're getting the idea that nobody is going to read about that claim. It's based on account of old Tweets the murderer in Dayton wrote. He also wrote that he was all for gun control. Well. That doesn't appear to be true. He murdered his own sister in the massacre. His motives aren't nearly as clear as the shooter's in El Paso. The FBI is going to do a profile on him. Try to figure out what his motives actually were. They are not investigating that massacre as domestic terrorism or a hate crime like they are the El Paso shooting massacre and the Gilroy shooting massacre.

The El Paso murderer wrote out a manifesto, detailing that he was, to use Trump's words, angry about the "Hispanic invasion." He drove hundreds of miles from the cushy suburb he lived in with his grandparents specifically go to that Walmart in El Paso on account of it having a high percentage of Hispanic folks living in that area, shopping there. He hunted human beings based on their skin color. The El Paso shooter's mother called the police on account of her being terribly concerned about him having an assault weapon. She wanted them to take it, on account of him being too immature, too inexperienced. But they didn't. So he went and stole innocent lives with it.
 
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