Only 10% in the US do not have medical insurance

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...or you get something better somewhere else.
You do? Where? Have an example? You're actually wrong. You don't just "get something better somewhere else". There's nothing better. Unless I become a member of Congress and get government health insurance. But feel free to prove me wrong with an example.

Doing away with private insurance and adopting a government health system is essentially like everyone being forced to work for the same crappy company and actually "forced" to take the same crappy healthcare they offer you.
How? Medicare for all would cover everything with no deductibles. The hospitals and doctors wouldn't change, just the payer - the government would be the single payer. And as a single payer the government could negotiate far lower costs. And costs would further be lowered because the government wouldn't try to profit by denying claims blindly through death panels like the private companies have.

Do you even have private health insurance? Do you even know anything about Medicare?
 
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Yeah - I also wonder how much experience he has with private health insurance companies - and how it compares it to Medicare/Medicaid.

I have three experiences with insurance companies over the past 8 years (two births and one accident one of the kids had) - and with just those three experiences I could write a huge post of the nonsense we experienced. And it’s not unusual. It’s par for the course.
 
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non-sequitur....

Everyone who claims to be a Christian is to be constantly tested, we are to constantly, daily, test one another, to prove what is/or who is/ of the truth and who is not.

"Good" patients , if Christian, seek Yahuweh's Kingdom every day.
Those who are able get healed, and get free from the sickness industry.

Those who are not yet healed, still keep seeking Yahuweh's Kingdom and His Righteousness, and freedom from all that is wrong, Yahuweh Willing.
We're supposed to judge everyone every day and determine who is "of the truth and who is not"?? Where did you come up with that??? Cut from whole cloth.

How do you stack up to judgment, by the way?

Galatians 5:
22 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith,
23 Meekness, temperance: against such there is no law.
 
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In the Bible, see it all there.
Nope. Nowhere does it say "to prove ... who is/ of the truth and who is not."

However it does say:
Matthew 7
1 Judge not, that ye be not judged.
2 For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again.
3 And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye?
4 Or how wilt thou say to thy brother, Let me pull out the mote out of thine eye; and, behold, a beam is in thine own eye?
5 Thou hypocrite, first cast out the beam out of thine own eye; and then shalt thou see clearly to cast out the mote out of thy brother's eye.

...And...

Romans 2
1 You therefore have no excuse, you who pass judgment on another. For on whatever grounds you judge the other, you are condemning yourself, because you who pass judgment do the same things.
2 And we know that God’s judgment against those who do such things is based on truth.
3 So when you, O man, pass judgment on others, yet do the same things, do you think you will escape God’s judgment?
4
Or do you disregard the riches of His kindness, tolerance, and patience, not realizing that God’s kindness leads you to repentance?
5 But because of your hard and unrepentant heart, you are storing up wrath against yourself for the day of wrath, when God’s righteous judgment will be revealed.
6 God “will repay each one according to his deeds.”

...And...

Galatians 5
22 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, forbearance, kindness, goodness, faithfulness,
23 gentleness and self-control. Against such things there is no law.
 
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If someone leaves out all the Scripture that they don't want to listen to,
what is that called ?

<something like 'pick and choose' > ?
Ummmmm ........ you do the same thing.
 
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Ummmmm ........ you do the same thing.
Ummmmmm.... no. You left out all the Scripture that is as true as the Scripture you posted, that shows that what you posted without the other is lopsided.

I'll post both sides of them tomorrow (or you can now), Yahuweh Willing, and show clearly that I believe all the Scripture is true,
and
show clearly which Scripture you have rejected to try to support the false teaching in your posts.
 
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What if people looked at things from the standpoint of the Kingdom, instead of seeking out scripture to justify worldly outlooks?

"what if" ?

Find true Ekklesia, and it is, not a what if, but a reality. Today. Here. Now.
 
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Ummmmmm.... no. You left out all the Scripture that is as true as the Scripture you posted, that shows that what you posted without the other is lopsided.

I'll post both sides of them tomorrow (or you can now), Yahuweh Willing, and show clearly that I believe all the Scripture is true,
and
show clearly which Scripture you have rejected to try to support the false teaching in your posts.
Ummm hmmmm.....
 
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If someone leaves out all the Scripture that they don't want to listen to,
what is that called ?

<something like 'pick and choose' > ?
So what's it called when someone leaves out all the Scripture. Period. ???
 
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What if people looked at things from the standpoint of the Kingdom, instead of seeking out scripture to justify worldly outlooks?

If the Body of Christ operated as we should, Christians would be the hardest people in the world to sell insurance to because we would be a self-insuring group.
 
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If the Body of Christ operated as we should, Christians would be the hardest people in the world to sell insurance to because we would be a self-insuring group.
Yes, even more healthy and hardy (possibly) than the self-insured Amish or Mennonites, since they don't practice healthy according to Scripture consistently in every way, but they do pay for their own medical needs with cash (afaik).
Finding such a group, obedient and "operated as we should" (according to Scripture),
is next to impossible.
 
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Yes, even more healthy and hardy (possibly) than the self-insured Amish or Mennonites, since they don't practice healthy according to Scripture consistently in every way, but they do pay for their own medical needs with cash (afaik).
Finding such a group, obedient and "operated as we should" (according to Scripture),
is next to impossible.
Don't know about the Amish but the Mennonites most definitely use private health insurance or Medicare. They have no "self-insurance" or whatever. And most Amish have a "catastrophic" plan according to my family in Lancaster, PA.
 
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