Obama FBI Assistant Director for Counterintelligence Says Flag at Half-Staff to Honor Adolf Hitler?

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The craziest thing I’ve ever seen on MSNBC…

“The president says that we will fly our flags at half-mast until August 8, that’s 8/8. Now I’m not going to imply that he did this deliberately, but I am using it as an example of the ignorance of the adversary that’s being demonstrated by the White House. The numbers 8/8 are very significant in the neo-Nazi and the white supremacy movement. Why? Because the letter ‘H’ is the 8th letter of the alphabet, and to them, the numbers 8/8 stand for “Heil Hitler.”

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Very dishonest thread title. Your quote directly contradicts it.

From the OP:

"Now I’m not going to imply that he did this deliberately, but I am using it as an example of the ignorance of the adversary that’s being demonstrated by the White House."

Now, compare that to the thread title:

Obama's FBI Assistant Director for Counterintelligence Says Flag at Half-Staff to Honor Adolf Hitler

What you bolded in his quote refers to the "why 8/8 is significant in the White Supermecist movement", not "why Trump flew the flag at half mast".
 
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Very dishonest thread title. Your quote directly contradicts it.

From the OP:

"Now I’m not going to imply that he did this deliberately, but I am using it as an example of the ignorance of the adversary that’s being demonstrated by the White House."

Now, compare that to the thread title:

Obama's FBI Assistant Director for Counterintelligence Says Flag at Half-Staff to Honor Adolf Hitler

What you bolded in his quote refers to the "why 8/8 is significant in the White Supermecist movement", not "why Trump flew the flag at half mast".
Let's come up with a new thread title then. What do you suggest that includes the following:
1) Obama's FBI Assistant Director for counterintelligence
2) Flag at half-mast
3) Hitler

I'm open to changing the title. Please provide a suggestion. Keep in mind that title length is limited.
 
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Let's come up with a new thread title then. What do you suggest that includes the following:
1) Obama's FBI Assistant Director for counterintelligence
2) Flag at half-mast
3) Hitler

I'm open to changing the title. Please provide a suggestion.
Obama FBI Ass. Dir for Counter Intel: Neo nazis may interpret flags at half-mast as an honor to Hitler
 
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Because the letter ‘H’ is the 8th letter of the alphabet, and to them, the numbers 8/8 stand for “Heil Hitler.”

The average person knows nothing about this
and could care less.
M-Bob
 
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Let's come up with a new thread title then. What do you suggest that includes the following:
1) Obama's FBI Assistant Director for counterintelligence
2) Flag at half-mast
3) Hitler

I'm open to changing the title. Please provide a suggestion.

Being that at no point did Obama's FBI Assistant Director for counterintelligence say anything remotely like "Flag at Half-Staff to Honor Adolf Hitler", we can remove that.

How about "Obama's FBI Assistant Director for Counterintelligence says the Details About Trump's Decision to Fly the Flag at Half Mast Demonstrates his Ignorance" or "Obama's FBI Assistant Director for Counterintelligence Comments on Trump's Ignorance and Conservatives Misrepresent his Statement".
 
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Doesn't seem to capture the spirit of Figliuzzi's animosity for Trump.
But it doesn't lie about what he said. It's a better characterization of what he actually said.

If you'd like:

Obama FBI Ass. Dir for Counter Intel: Trump ignorant; Neo nazis may interpret flags at half-mast as an honor to Hitler

Side note: I do think the point he makes is a bit of a stretch, but let's not lie about what he actually said.
 
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But it doesn't lie about what he said. It's a better characterization of what he actually said.

If you'd like:

Obama FBI Ass. Dir for Counter Intel: Trump ignorant; Neo nazis may interpret flags at half-mast as an honor to Hitler
Better. Needs to shorten by about 15 letters. Still needs gusto of Figliuzzi's contempt for Trump.
 
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Very dishonest thread title. Your quote directly contradicts it.

From the OP:

"Now I’m not going to imply that he did this deliberately, but I am using it as an example of the ignorance of the adversary that’s being demonstrated by the White House."

Now, compare that to the thread title:

Obama's FBI Assistant Director for Counterintelligence Says Flag at Half-Staff to Honor Adolf Hitler

What you bolded in his quote refers to the "why 8/8 is significant in the White Supermecist movement", not "why Trump flew the flag at half mast".
By saying it implied it; if he was not implying it why say it?.....:sigh:
 
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By saying it implied it; if he was not implying it why say it?.....:sigh:
No, he's saying that Trump is ignorant of the significance of "8/8". He's trying to clarify that he doesn't think Trump did it deliberately, just that he thinks he's stupid.
 
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No, he's saying that Trump is ignorant of the significance of "8/8". He's trying to clarify that he doesn't think Trump did it deliberately, just that he thinks he's stupid.
How about I add a question mark at the end of the title ... and take another letter out so that it fits the allowable space within the title box?
 
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Better. Needs to shorten by about 15 letters. Still needs gusto of Figliuzzi's contempt for Trump.
then put '...' and continue it in the actual thread. Some things can't be shortened to fit in a url title, especially when YOU want specific pieces of information in that title.

Either way, the title of the thread as originally posted is an out and out lie. It's NOT what was said.
 
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How about I add a question mark at the end of the title ... and take another letter out so that it fits the allowable space within the title box?
No. Because it still lies about what he said. He didn't say the flag is being flown as a tribute to Hitler, he's saying that neo Nazis will interpret it as such and Trump is ignorant of why.
 
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By saying it implied it; if he was not implying it why say it?.....:sigh:

What he said is that he doesn't believe Trump knew of the association between 8/8 and Hitler and that his decision demonstrated his ignorance. He did not say anything resembling "Flag at Half-Staff to Honor Adolf Hitler"
 
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No. Because it still lies about what he said. He didn't say the flag is being flown as a tribute to Hitler, he's saying that neo Nazis will interpret it as such and Trump is ignorant of why.
Incorrect. Figliuzzi was directly questioning why the flag was flown at half-staff. A question mark captures the essence of that.
 
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Hi all,

Well, I think that if we are going to adopt this position of flying the flag at half mast for a few days after every mass shooting, we're probably not ever going to raise it again. So far this year, depending on how you qualify mass shootings, we've had more than we've had days. However, even if you discount half of them as not qualifying for the honor of lowering the flag, by making the period that the flag is lowered several days, you're likely not ever going to raise that flag again.

We will be seen as the nation of raw gun violence that is always in retreat. What a great honor that must be for us.

God bless,
In Christ, ted
 
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