Lord God of Abraham, Isaac, and Israel

TreWalker said:

Yes.
I like your quotes. Reminds me of the new covenant promises given through Jeremiah.


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32 “But this is the covenant I will make with the house of Israel after those days” —it is a declaration of Adonai—
“I will put My Torah within them. Yes, I will write it on their heart.
I will be their God
and they will be My people. 33
No longer will each teach his neighbor
or each his brother, saying: ‘Know Adonai,’ for they will all know Me, from the least of them to the greatest.”
it is a declaration of Adonai. “For I will forgive their iniquity, their sin I will remember no more.”

Israel's redemption is of the Spirit. The same Spirit offered to both brothers (Jews) and neighbors (Gentiles) redeems us both.

The main difference between the old covenant and the new covenant is not that the Torah (or Israel) would be done away with but that it would be written on their hearts. Ezekiel also speaks about this very same thing.

Do you realize that even in her unbelief God will honor his promise to Israel. God actually set up the covenant that way in Genesis 15.

God alone made covenant with Abraham without requiring him to do the same. Instead he put him in a deep sleep. This covenant of grace enables God to bless Israel even if she is in unbelief. Unlike the new covenant the covenant of circumcision was not a covenant that promised eternal life. It was specifically between Abraham and his natural seed. And to this day God honors his promise to Israel through circumcision. The Jewish people are blessed despite their rejection of Yeshua from the majority, there has always been a faithful remnant.

And he continues to honor his covenant. Many get hung up in understanding that God can honor two covenants at one time. The new covenant surpasses the covenant of circumcision in every way, but that doesn’t mean that it cancels it out. And part of the covenant of circumcision was God giving the land of Israel to the Jewish people as an everlasting possession. Genesis 17:7-8

Adams covenant still stands, broken as it is. As does Noah, or can the earth be deluged by water again now? Abraham's covenant is firmly committed to by God as eternal. And Moses covenant still stands as long as the Jewish people exist. As broken as our people have rendered it.

The new covenant surpasses these covenants in every way, but that doesn’t mean that it cancels out the people or the blessings that are promised.

Redemption and reconciliation are funny this way. They don't give the dogmatic a foothold. All will be humbled, or humiliated.

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visionary said:

Not everything. Your flesh is not spiritual.

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eleos1954 said:

and our flesh is corrupt ..

Galatians 6:8
For the one who sows to his own flesh will from the flesh reap corruption, but the one who sows to the Spirit will from the Spirit reap eternal life.

Romans 8:8
Those who are in the flesh cannot please God.

Romans 8:5
For those who live according to the flesh set their minds on the things of the flesh, but those who live according to the Spirit set their minds on the things of the Spirit.

John 3:6
That which is born of the flesh is flesh, and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit.

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chunkofcoal said:

I came across something about this and thought it was interesting to ponder - In three places the name "LORD God of Abraham, Isaac and Israel" is used instead of "LORD God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob".
So what is the significance of using Israel instead of Jacob? Are they using Israel in reference to the collective people of Israel, or in reference to the remnant, or ??? Any thoughts or insights?

Spoken by Elijah -
1Ki 18:36 And it came to pass at the time of the offering of the evening sacrifice, that Elijah the prophet came near, and said, LORD God of Abraham, Isaac, and of Israel, let it be known this day that thou art God in Israel, and that I am thy servant, and that I have done all these things at thy word.

Spoken by King David -
1Ch 29:18 O LORD God of Abraham, Isaac, and of Israel, our fathers, keep this for ever in the imagination of the thoughts of the heart of thy people, and prepare their heart unto thee:

Spoken by King Hezekiah -
2Ch 30:6 So the posts went with the letters from the king and his princes throughout all Israel and Judah, and according to the commandment of the king, saying, Ye children of Israel, turn again unto the LORD God of Abraham, Isaac, and Israel, and he will return to the remnant of you, that are escaped out of the hand of the kings of Assyria.

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visionary said:

Exactly, not spiritual.. making my point, it is not all "spiritual"... not even "Israel".

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visionary said:

So Israel is not the Christian church?

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ralliann said:

The apostles were not his Ekklesia?

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visionary said:

You mean those Jews, who followed Him around when He walked the earth. That was another branch of Judaism with Yeshua as the Messiah...

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ralliann said:

I am talking about the Apostles, and all the ekklesia at Jerusalem.
Acts 15:4 And when they were come to Jerusalem, they were received of the church , and of the apostles and elders, and they declared all things that God had done with them.
Acts 15:22 Then pleased it the apostles and elders, with the whole church, to send chosen men of their own company to Antioch with Paul and Barnabas; namely, Judas surnamed Barsabas, and Silas, chief men among the brethren:

Acts 16:5 And so were the churches established in the faith, and increased in number daily.

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visionary said:

Sorry that congregation would be going to the synagogue as they are all part of the faith called Judaism.

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ralliann said:

That congregation? Yes, that Ekklesia

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chunkofcoal said:

I came across something about this and thought it was interesting to ponder - In three places the name "LORD God of Abraham, Isaac and Israel" is used instead of "LORD God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob".
So what is the significance of using Israel instead of Jacob? Are they using Israel in reference to the collective people of Israel, or in reference to the remnant, or ??? Any thoughts or insights?

Spoken by Elijah -
1Ki 18:36 And it came to pass at the time of the offering of the evening sacrifice, that Elijah the prophet came near, and said, LORD God of Abraham, Isaac, and of Israel, let it be known this day that thou art God in Israel, and that I am thy servant, and that I have done all these things at thy word.

Spoken by King David -
1Ch 29:18 O LORD God of Abraham, Isaac, and of Israel, our fathers, keep this for ever in the imagination of the thoughts of the heart of thy people, and prepare their heart unto thee:

Spoken by King Hezekiah -
2Ch 30:6 So the posts went with the letters from the king and his princes throughout all Israel and Judah, and according to the commandment of the king, saying, Ye children of Israel, turn again unto the LORD God of Abraham, Isaac, and Israel, and he will return to the remnant of you, that are escaped out of the hand of the kings of Assyria.

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