So with a change in selection pressures, monkeys could give rise to different humans?

Aman777 said:

Can you name the Bible believers here who disagree with me?

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Can you have one of them post their agreement with your nonsense, here, in this thread?

Aman777 said:

My method is much better than yours since I show the AGREEMENT of Scripture with science, history, genetics, mathematics and every other discovered Truth of mankind, and is supported by God Himself. I await any support for your view....

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Your posts support my view (that your interpretation of the bible is erroneous and unsupported). Every. Single. Time.

Warden_of_the_Storm said:

I really do not care what you think or what you think you know. I don't care in the slightest.

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Some are ashamed of being shown that their Religion/Belief/Assumption, that the ToE is false and NOT supported by fact, so they run from the Truth. God bless you

Gottservant said:

You're saying you don't care about the rate at which it happens?

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The rate of evolution is variable. It never ends. It is still going on today.

Gottservant said:

Ok.

So you believe it starts and ends? Like that there is a build up of potential (materially?) and then a critical mass reached (in the manner of a constant?)?

My next question would be "what is the nature of that potential and what is the critical mass made of?"

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No.

Gottservant said:

Wait I think I have hit on a discrepancy, that should have been evident in the OP:

do different selection pressures result in different humans or different monkeys and then different humans?

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No.

Aman777 said:

Some are ashamed of being shown that their Religion/Belief/Assumption, that the ToE is false and NOT supported by fact, so they run from the Truth. God bless you

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Oh, it's cute that you think that.

Gottservant said:

You're saying you don't care about the rate at which it happens?

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Except you're not talking about the rate of evolution. You're not even actually talking about evolution. Whatever you're talking about is not evolution, it's just what you think evolution is in your head.

Again, please: actually learn about evolution.

Warden_of_the_Storm said:

Oh, it's cute that you think that.

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I noticed that you dodged the question of HOW and WHEN mindless Nature and long periods of time and zillions of mutations, lined up just one time, which can never be repeated again, since it so random, Apes can NEVER again magically change into reasoning Humans. That's not cute especially since our children are being brainwashed in Elementary School to believe such a Fantasy even as we post. There is no evidence to support that view and that's why you posted what you did.

Can anyone post of this mysterious process which places God's superior intelligence into the descendants of the common ancestor of Apes?

Aman777 said:

I noticed that you dodged the question of HOW and WHEN mindless Nature and long periods of time and zillions of mutations, lined up just one time, which can never be repeated again, since it so random, Apes can NEVER again magically change into reasoning Humans. That's not cute especially since our children are being brainwashed in Elementary School to believe such a Fantasy even as we post. There is no evidence to support that view and that's why you posted what you did.

Can anyone post of this mysterious process which places God's superior intelligence into the descendants of the common ancestor of Apes?

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And yet you have absolutely nothing to replace the theory of evolution, except your own rambling and very strange take on Scripture.
So do excuse if I don't care a jot about what you say about evolution.

Aman777 said:

I noticed that you dodged the question of HOW and WHEN mindless Nature and long periods of time and zillions of mutations, lined up just one time, which can never be repeated again, since it so random, Apes can NEVER again magically change into reasoning Humans.

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If you don't understand why evolution can't produce exactly the same species more than once, you really don't understand the process.

Do you understand why no two rivers and no two mountains have exactly the same shape? It's the same principle at work.

Aman777 said:

I noticed that you dodged the question of HOW and WHEN mindless Nature and long periods of time and zillions of mutations, lined up just one time, which can never be repeated again, since it so random, Apes can NEVER again magically change into reasoning Humans.

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You know, you almost have the hang of this. Let's see what you got right and what you got wrong.

Right:
1. You are correct in recognising that the evolution of man took "long periods of time and zillions of mutations".
2. You are correct that this was a chance event.
3. You are correct that if time were replayed the exact same result would not be duplicated.
4. You are correct that apes can never again change into humans, since the apes from whom we are descended have been extinct for millions of years.

Wrong:
1. Numerous members have explained to you the how and the when of evolution. You have consistently either ignored this or attempted to belittle the explanations with fatuous rhetoric.
2. There is nothing magical about evolution. That seems to be your preserve.

Ophiolite said:

You know, you almost have the hang of this. Let's see what you got right and what you got wrong.

Right:
1. You are correct in recognising that the evolution of man took "long periods of time and zillions of mutations".
2. You are correct that this was a chance event.
3. You are correct that if time were replayed the exact same result would not be duplicated.
4. You are correct that apes can never again change into humans, since the apes from whom we are descended have been extinct for millions of years.

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Thanks for recognizing that I do realize what evolution teaches.

Ophiolite said:

Wrong:
1. Numerous members have explained to you the how and the when of evolution. You have consistently either ignored this or attempted to belittle the explanations with fatuous rhetoric.

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Show us the physical process which confirms the insertion of God's superior intelligence into the descendants of the common ancestor of Apes. NO one can, but God does, and the process is the sexual process. The sexual process or inheritance or descent with modification agrees and assures that ONLY Humans (descendants of Adam) have inherited Adam's superior intelligence, which is like God's. Gen 3:22

Ophiolite said:

2. There is nothing magical about evolution. That seems to be your preserve.

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The ToE is false, Scripturally, scientifically, historically, genetically and mathematically. Choose one of the above and I will refute (prove wrong) the false teachings of the ToE. It would have to be magic since there is NO other process to put God's superior intelligence into prehistoric people who descended from LUCA. Genesis 6:4 explains IF you can understand it.

FrumiousBandersnatch said:

If you don't understand why evolution can't produce exactly the same species more than once, you really don't understand the process.

Do you understand why no two rivers and no two mountains have exactly the same shape? It's the same principle at work.

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Intelligence does NOT work that way. It must be inherited from other Humans (descendants of Adam). You are either born a Human or you are an animal, with limited intelligence which lacks reasoning. Only God and Adam (mankind) have this superior intelligence inside them. Genesis 3:22 The ToE is a false assumption.

Warden_of_the_Storm said:

And yet you have absolutely nothing to replace the theory of evolution

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False, since I show that God's Truth in Genesis agrees in every way with every discovery of mankind. God's method is descent with modification within kinds over a period of time in a population. Scientists changed the name from descent with modifications into the word "evolution" which allowed them to eliminate God's view from their thinking and make up wild speculative notions like Humans descended from Apes. They don't know that Humans are God's Children.....and not Apes.

Aman777 said:

Intelligence does NOT work that way. It must be inherited from other Humans (descendants of Adam). You are either born a Human or you are an animal, with limited intelligence which lacks reasoning. Only God and Adam (mankind) have this superior intelligence inside them. Genesis 3:22 The ToE is a false assumption.

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Humans are animals, and other animals are capable of causal, analogical, and inferential reasoning.