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So the rebirth of Israel is just coincidence? Nope! God has warned us that this is the terminal generation.

Luke 21:32
32 Assuredly, I say to you, this generation will by no means pass away till all things take place.
"This generation" referring to the people living at that time. Some will witness Jesus return. And He will return to Israel where He left.
That Dispensationalist nonsense has been refuted numerous times on this board............

"THIS GENERATION" in Bible

Matthew 24, Mark 13 and Luke's Temple/Jerusalem Discourses harmonized- Poll Thread


Jesus is talking about the full end and destruction of Herod's Temple in 70ad.......just ask the Jews!

Matthew 24:3
Yet of Him sitting on the Mount of the Olives, the Disciples came toward to Him according to own saying "be telling to us!
when shall these be being?
and what the sign of Thy parousia<3952> and full-end/consummation<4930> of the Age?
Mark 13

3 And of sitting of Him into the Mount of the Olives over against the Temple,
Peter and James and John and Andrew inquired<1905> of Him according to own
4 Tell us! when these shall be?
and what the sign whenever may be being about<3195> all these to be fully concluded/consummated<4931>.
Luke 21
7 They inquire yet of Him saying “Teacher!
when then shall these be being?
And what the sign whenever may be being about<3195> these to becoming<1096>?

Matthew 24:34
Amen I am saying to ye, not no may be passing-away this generation till ever all these may be becoming.
Mark 13:30

Amen I am saying to ye not no may be passing-away this generation unto of which any these all may be becoming
Luke 21:32

“Amen I am saying to ye, not no may be passing-away this generation till ever all things may be becoming.

The Great City/Harlot/Queen Revelation chapts 17-19

Revelation 16:17
Then the seventh messenger poured out his bowl into the air, and a loud voice came out of the Sanctuary of the heaven, from the throne, saying, “It hath become!<gegonen<1096>

Revelation 19:
1 After these I hear as a great sound of a vast throng in the heaven, saying,
"HalleluYah! the salvation and the glory and the honor, and the power of our God;
2 That true and righteous His judgeings, that He judges the great harlot who corrupts the earth in Her whoredom, and avenges<1556> the blood of His bond-servants out of Her hand".
3 And a second time they have declared<4483> "HalleluYah! and the smoke of Her is ascending into the ages of the ages!"
 
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Soon to come:

Romans 11:26-27
26 And so all Israel will be saved, as it is written: "The Deliverer will come out of Zion, And He will turn away ungodliness from Jacob;
27 For this is My covenant with them, When I take away their sins."

Do you notice the NKJV shows which part of the text comes from the Old Testament by using Uppercase letters?

Rom 11:26 And so all Israel will be saved, as it is written: "THE DELIVERER WILL COME OUT OF ZION, AND HE WILL TURN AWAY UNGODLINESS FROM JACOB;
Rom 11:27 FOR THIS IS MY COVENANT WITH THEM, WHEN I TAKE AWAY THEIR SINS."

When did the Messiah take away sin?

Is the "covenant" in verse 27 a future covenant with the modern State of Israel, or is it the covenant fulfilled for all races of people at Calvary?

The answer is found below.


Jer_31:31 "Behold, the days are coming, says the LORD, when I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah—

Mat_26:28 For this is My blood of the new covenant, which is shed for many for the remission of sins.

Mar_14:24 And He said to them, "This is My blood of the new covenant, which is shed for many.

Luk_22:20 Likewise He also took the cup after supper, saying, "This cup is the new covenant in My blood, which is shed for you.

1Co_11:25 In the same manner He also took the cup after supper, saying, "This cup is the new covenant in My blood. This do, as often as you drink it, in remembrance of Me."

2Co_3:6 who also made us sufficient as ministers of the new covenant, not of the letter but of the Spirit; for the letter kills, but the Spirit gives life.

Heb_8:8 Because finding fault with them, He says: "BEHOLD, THE DAYS ARE COMING, SAYS THE LORD, WHEN I WILL MAKE A NEW COVENANT WITH THE HOUSE OF ISRAEL AND WITH THE HOUSE OF JUDAH— (Quoted from Jeremiah 31:31-34.)

Heb_8:13 In that He says, "A NEW COVENANT," He has made the first obsolete. Now what is becoming obsolete and growing old is ready to vanish away.

Heb_9:15 And for this reason He is the Mediator of the new covenant, by means of death, for the redemption of the transgressions under the first covenant, that those who are called may receive the promise of the eternal inheritance.

Heb_12:24 to Jesus the Mediator of the new covenant, and to the blood of sprinkling that speaks better things than that of Abel.

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Check out the OT where God fought for Israel.

Check out the New Testament to find out how a person now has a relationship with God.

1Jn 2:22 Who is a liar but he who denies that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist who denies the Father and the Son.
1Jn 2:23 Whoever denies the Son does not have the Father either; he who acknowledges the Son has the Father also.


Is it based on who your parents would be, or your geographic location?

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Some who witnessed Israel recover Jerusalem in 1967 will witness Jesus return.

Luke 21:24 And Jerusalem will be trampled by Gentiles until the times of the Gentiles are fulfilled.

Luke 21:32
32 Assuredly, I say to you, this generation will by no means pass away till all things take place.

This is the terminal generation.

Why did you skip the verses in between, which reveal that "the times of the Gentiles" comes to fulness at His Second Coming?

Luk 21:24 And they will fall by the edge of the sword, and be led away captive into all nations. And Jerusalem will be trampled by Gentiles until the times of the Gentiles are fulfilled.
Luk 21:25 "And there will be signs in the sun, in the moon, and in the stars; and on the earth distress of nations, with perplexity, the sea and the waves roaring;
Luk 21:26 men's hearts failing them from fear and the expectation of those things which are coming on the earth, for the powers of the heavens will be shaken.
Luk 21:27 Then they will see the Son of Man coming in a cloud with power and great glory.
Luk 21:28 Now when these things begin to happen, look up and lift up your heads, because your redemption draws near."

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"This generation" referring to the people living at that time. Some will witness Jesus return. And He will return to Israel where He left.
Right. At THAT time (when Jesus was speaking....thousands of years ago).
 
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Luke 21:32
32 Assuredly, I say to you, this generation will by no means pass away till all things take place.
So our Lord wasn't answering a question put to Him by someone then present. He just turned away from the questioner and faced the camera to deliver His answer to folks thousands of years in the future. I wonder if the old boy who asked the question thought the Lord was still talking to him.
 
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Some who witnessed Israel recover Jerusalem in 1967 will witness Jesus return.
Yeah, that was originally supposed to be 1948 wasn't it? But that was before a couple of 40 year generations came and went relatively without incident. I suspect y'all are gonna have to keep moving the date with the passage of time.

32 Assuredly, I say to you, this generation will by no means pass away till all things take place.
This is the terminal generation.
So was the generation living in 1948 - until the date was moved. Ya gotta stay flexible if you're gonna do End Times Predicting thang.
 
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Nope.

Romans 9:6 ~ Well then, has God failed to fulfill his promise to Israel? No, for not all who are born into the nation of Israel are truly members of Israel (God’s people)!
Sit back and watch God fight for Israel. It's gonna be great!

Zechariah 14:12
12 And this shall be the plague with which the LORD will strike all the people who fought against Jerusalem: Their flesh shall dissolve while they stand on their feet, Their eyes shall dissolve in their sockets, And their tongues shall dissolve in their mouths.
 
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Yeah, that was originally supposed to be 1948 wasn't it? But that was before a couple of 40 year generations came and went relatively without incident. I suspect y'all are gonna have to keep moving the date with the passage of time.

So was the generation living in 1948 - until the date was moved. Ya gotta stay flexible if you're gonna do End Times Predicting thang.
The prophecy is about Jerusalem. They have it now.

Matthew 24:21
21 For then there will be great tribulation, such as has not been since the beginning of the world until this time, no, nor ever shall be.
 
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Sure. God can take American money and give it to Israel. No problem.

Yeah.... the 51st United State in the middle east? Just like in the 1st century; governed by a proxy empire that they absolutely need the strength of our economy.

Welcome to the Roman Empire with a technological twist!

Glad to know God needs our GNP and military technology so much! (That His "chosen people" have to steal it from us?) Since when does sin accomplish the righteousness of God?
 
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Who is James addressing in the passage below, when he referred to "the twelve tribes", who were his "brethren" in the "faith"?


Jas 1:1 James, a servant of God and of the Lord Jesus Christ, to the twelve tribes which are scattered abroad, greeting.
Jas 1:2 My brethren, count it all joy when ye fall into divers temptations;
Jas 1:3 Knowing this, that the trying of your faith worketh patience.

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Great Verse! :oldthumbsup::oldthumbsup::oldthumbsup:
 
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Sit back and watch God fight for Israel. It's gonna be great!

Zechariah 14:12
12 And this shall be the plague with which the LORD will strike all the people who fought against Jerusalem: Their flesh shall dissolve while they stand on their feet, Their eyes shall dissolve in their sockets, And their tongues shall dissolve in their mouths.


2Th 1:7 and to give you who are troubled rest with us when the Lord Jesus is revealed from heaven with His mighty angels,
2Th 1:8 in flaming fire taking vengeance on those who do not know God, and on those who do not obey the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ.
2Th 1:9 These shall be punished with everlasting destruction from the presence of the Lord and from the glory of His power,
2Th 1:10 when He comes, in that Day, to be glorified in His saints and to be admired among all those who believe, because our testimony among you was believed.

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2Th 1:7 and to give you who are troubled rest with us when the Lord Jesus is revealed from heaven with His mighty angels,
2Th 1:8 in flaming fire taking vengeance on those who do not know God, and on those who do not obey the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ.
2Th 1:9 These shall be punished with everlasting destruction from the presence of the Lord and from the glory of His power,
2Th 1:10 when He comes, in that Day, to be glorified in His saints and to be admired among all those who believe, because our testimony among you was believed.

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Amen! God bless Israel.

Amos 9:14-15
14 I will bring back the captives of My people Israel; They shall build the waste cities and inhabit them; They shall plant vineyards and drink wine from them; They shall also make gardens and eat fruit from them.
15 I will plant them in their land, And no longer shall they be pulled up From the land I have given them," Says the LORD your God.

And He did and they will stay in the Land God gave them, Israel.
 
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And He did and they will stay in the Land God gave them, Israel.

Heb 11:15 And truly if they had called to mind that country from which they had come out, they would have had opportunity to return.
Heb 11:16 But now they desire a better, that is, a heavenly country. Therefore God is not ashamed to be called their God, for He has prepared a city for them.

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Yeah.... the 51st United State in the middle east? Just like in the 1st century; governed by a proxy empire that they absolutely need the strength of our economy.

Welcome to the Roman Empire with a technological twist!

Glad to know God needs our GNP and military technology so much! (That His "chosen people" have to steal it from us?) Since when does sin accomplish the righteousness of God?
God doesn't need anything, but He can take whatever He wants to and give it to whomever He wants to.
 
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Heb 11:15 And truly if they had called to mind that country from which they had come out, they would have had opportunity to return.
Heb 11:16 But now they desire a better, that is, a heavenly country. Therefore God is not ashamed to be called their God, for He has prepared a city for them.

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Yeah, it's gonna be great!
 
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God doesn't need anything, but He can take whatever He wants to and give it to whomever He wants to.

Yeah..... And I suppose God has now changed His modus operands, since back in the days of Moses it was very clear to everyone that the Exodus was via Divine intervention!

And since Israel seems they could not get out of Eisenhower what they got out of Johnson....? (If you ever studied the history of Zionism, you know what I'm talking about! The US was not very cooperative with the Zionist agenda during WWII.) And the "6 million holocaust" number that has been in newspapers long before there was ever a Nazi in Germany?

All of which based on lies and deception. Just ask George S. Patton. (Oopse - we can't because..... someone... murdered him!)

Kind of strange way for a righteous God to be acting now - don't ya think?
 
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And the "6 million holocaust" number that has been in newspapers long before there was ever a Nazi in Germany?

Be careful with that, - this fallacy is used by holocaust deniers. It actually refers to the census of Jews at the time, and naturally became a worst case scenario for the Jews, sensing growing contempt and danger.
The actual figures were very close indeed as such a high percentage of Jews in key regions of Nazi populated were killed (in the case of Poland, it was around 91%).
The figures of 1 million are crazy, Even I know someone who's great grandfather was responsible for roughly 1/3 million deaths of the mentally ill in Germany, and this was a small contribution in the overall figures for the mentally ill.
Be careful using such clumsy, hamfisted assumptions.
 
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Sit back and watch God fight for Israel. It's gonna be great!

Zechariah 14:12
12 And this shall be the plague with which the LORD will strike all the people who fought against Jerusalem: Their flesh shall dissolve while they stand on their feet, Their eyes shall dissolve in their sockets, And their tongues shall dissolve in their mouths.
Just saving until I can respond. You do realize that the modern war is against Christians as well ...correct? I think you may be cheering for the wrong "team" there (besides cheering for the wrong results).

Evangelicals side with Israel. That’s hurting Palestinian Christians. - The Washington Post
 
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