I'm so miserable

bornagain98 · Aug 3, 2019

I posted a few days ago about this but my obsessive thoughts are ruining my life and they have for so long

These specific thoughts started 2 weeks ago, i was laying in the bed, I had actually just finished having a great conversation about the Bible with my mom that night. Before trying to fall asleep, I was actually listening to the song "Surrounded" by Michael W Smith and thinking about how God has defended me in my battles. I have had OCD revolving around the unforgivable sin for a very long time

When I went to try to fall asleep I started getting all of these super evil OCD thoughts out of NO WHERE. I was perfectly fine then it just hit

The instrusive thoughts are like "Can you PROVE your God is the real God and not something bad?" Or things like "How do you KNOW God is telling you the truth?" I obviously do not agree with these thoughts at all, I hate them.

It seems like arguing with them tends to make them worse. I 100% believe that God is holy and true. Everytime I try to relax or think about how good God is , these thoughts come up.

I can see one little thing that triggers these evil thoughts. I'm so scared one day I might commit this sin or turn my back on God. Of course I would never do that, just the thought of the devil tricking me is so terrifying.

I just came back from a really fun trip with my family. Im not even happy, I'm just stressed again. My room is a mess, I feel like nothing I do even matters because I'm going to hell anyways

I love God, I have felt His love and His goodness, I trust Him, He's done so much for me and given me such a great family and friends. Why would I have these doubting thoughts about Him????

I usually just tell my OCD "God has been good to me, I believe His word. " sometimes it goes away, some times not. I just don't ever want to be tricked by the devil and believe some lie and go to hell. I just want to bawl and cry.

I tell my mom about this and she is very helpful but she doesn't understand OCD and just tells me to let go if the fear. How can I not be afraid for my eternal soul?? She says no one can pluck me from God's hand, but what if I commit that sin? Ive read its not possible for a christian to commit that sin, but is that true?

I wish I could go back in time to the way I felt before that day. Please pray for me, please offer me your advice, I just need help

joshua 1 9 · Aug 3, 2019

bornagain98 said:
The instrusive thoughts are like "Can you PROVE your God is the real God and not something bad?"

YOU can not argue with a reprobate mind. The Bible says to resist the devil and he will flee from us. We are to put on the mind of Christ. I have done an extensive study on all the many things that make up the Mind of Christ. A church I attended came up with over 200 sermons on different things that make up the Mind of Christ. Phil 2:5 "Let this mind be in you which was also in Christ Jesus:" Philippians maybe a good book for you to read.

Phil4:8"Finally, brethren, whatsoever things are true, whatsoever things are honest, whatsoever things are just, whatsoever things are pure, whatsoever things are lovely, whatsoever things are of good report; if there be any virtue, and if there be any praise, think on these things."

bornagain98 · Aug 3, 2019

joshua 1 9 said:
YOU can not argue with a reprobate mind. The Bible says to resist the devil and he will flee from us. We are to put on the mind of Christ. I have done an extensive study on all the many things that make up the Mind of Christ. A church I attended came up with over 200 sermons on different things that make up the Mind of Christ. Phil 2:5 "Let this mind be in you which was also in Christ Jesus:" Philippians maybe a good book for you to read.

Phil4:8"Finally, brethren, whatsoever things are true, whatsoever things are honest, whatsoever things are just, whatsoever things are pure, whatsoever things are lovely, whatsoever things are of good report; if there be any virtue, and if there be any praise, think on these things."

Thank you for your input. I guess I try to agrue them out of my head but arguing always makes it worse. Thanks for the verses you posted. God bless

Chris V++ · Aug 3, 2019

Isn't the unforgivable sin when one dies having rejected Jesus as your savior? Isn't it only applicable after death? Are you afraid you are going to reject Jesus and die in that state? Even if you were to have doubts, as long as you are alive, you are still in the game, no?
There must be some way you can change the channel on your thoughts when you start heading in this direction. Maybe imagine a dial that you can turn to change the frequency, just like on a car radio, so you can hear something positive.

devin553344 · Aug 3, 2019

bornagain98 said:
I posted a few days ago about this but my obsessive thoughts are ruining my life and they have for so long

These specific thoughts started 2 weeks ago, i was laying in the bed, I had actually just finished having a great conversation about the Bible with my mom that night. Before trying to fall asleep, I was actually listening to the song "Surrounded" by Michael W Smith and thinking about how God has defended me in my battles. I have had OCD revolving around the unforgivable sin for a very long time

When I went to try to fall asleep I started getting all of these super evil OCD thoughts out of NO WHERE. I was perfectly fine then it just hit

The instrusive thoughts are like "Can you PROVE your God is the real God and not something bad?" Or things like "How do you KNOW God is telling you the truth?" I obviously do not agree with these thoughts at all, I hate them.

It seems like arguing with them tends to make them worse. I 100% believe that God is holy and true. Everytime I try to relax or think about how good God is , these thoughts come up.

I can see one little thing that triggers these evil thoughts. I'm so scared one day I might commit this sin or turn my back on God. Of course I would never do that, just the thought of the devil tricking me is so terrifying.

I just came back from a really fun trip with my family. Im not even happy, I'm just stressed again. My room is a mess, I feel like nothing I do even matters because I'm going to hell anyways

I love God, I have felt His love and His goodness, I trust Him, He's done so much for me and given me such a great family and friends. Why would I have these doubting thoughts about Him????

I usually just tell my OCD "God has been good to me, I believe His word. " sometimes it goes away, some times not. I just don't ever want to be tricked by the devil and believe some lie and go to hell. I just want to bawl and cry.

I tell my mom about this and she is very helpful but she doesn't understand OCD and just tells me to let go if the fear. How can I not be afraid for my eternal soul?? She says no one can pluck me from God's hand, but what if I commit that sin? Ive read its not possible for a christian to commit that sin, but is that true?

I wish I could go back in time to the way I felt before that day. Please pray for me, please offer me your advice, I just need help

I have intrusive thoughts when I exercise or work too hard. I just realize that they are not real and that I'm hallucinating thoughts. And that helps me get thru. But I'm on meds so I normally don't get those thoughts. Maybe that will help.

bornagain98 · Aug 3, 2019

Chris V++ said:
Isn't the unforgivable sin when one dies having rejected Jesus as your savior? Isn't it only applicable after death? Are you afraid you are going to reject Jesus and die in that state? Even if you were to have doubts, as long as you are alive, you are still in the game, no?
There must be some way you can change the channel on your thoughts when you start heading in this direction. Maybe imagine a dial that you can turn to change the frequency, just like on a car radio, so you can hear something positive.

I thought the unforgivable sin was to honestly believe/call God evil. Of course I know He is good, the thoughts are just very scary and make me feel like this is my real mindset when I know it isn't. I have read that no one who has actually done this sin would even want to accept Jesus and that they would be turned over to a hardened heart. That is the common teaching I have ran into when researching this subject. I just get scared that isn't how it works.

Thank you for your advice and prayers, they mean a lot to me.

bornagain98 · Aug 3, 2019

devin553344 said:
I have intrusive thoughts when I exercise or work too hard. I just realize that they are not real and that I'm hallucinating thoughts. And that helps me get thru. But I'm on meds so I normally don't get those thoughts. Maybe that will help.

Thanks, I'm glad I'm not alone in this. I have never seen a therapist but am looking for one now to try to get this under control. Thank you for your input. God bless

somuchjoy · Aug 3, 2019

Chris V++ said:
Isn't the unforgivable sin when one dies having rejected Jesus as your savior? Isn't it only applicable after death? Are you afraid you are going to reject Jesus and die in that state? Even if you were to have doubts, as long as you are alive, you are still in the game, no?
There must be some way you can change the channel on your thoughts when you start heading in this direction. Maybe imagine a dial that you can turn to change the frequency, just like on a car radio, so you can hear something positive.

I agree with Chris! I had a preacher once say when you are having a rough day or rough moment, sing a song such as Jesus loves me over and over. Repeat a verse over and over. Pray and ask for help (I know you do) but we must guard our hearts. Talking to our Heavenly Father and just having a conversation with him is wonderful. I find that I will be talking to him as if he is right beside me. I have obsessed about the same thing actually (and many others lol). Prayers for you.

anna ~ grace · Aug 3, 2019

bornagain98 said:
Thank you for your input. I guess I try to agrue them out of my head but arguing always makes it worse. Thanks for the verses you posted. God bless

Don't argue with them. Ask Christ for mercy and help, pray, and force your thoughts on Him. That always helps me!

SaintNick · Aug 3, 2019

Try casting them out in Jesus name it sounds like spiritual warfare.

joshua 1 9 · Aug 4, 2019

bornagain98 said:
Thank you for your input. I guess I try to agrue them out of my head but arguing always makes it worse. Thanks for the verses you posted. God bless

This is something we need to put under the Blood of Jesus. Also I believe the atonement was two fold. Jesus died to reconcile us with the father. He also died to reconcile us with each other. The Bible talks about times where two or more people need to be in agreement. There are churches that have healing services and prayer meetings where people can go to get help with what they struggle with.

Lost4words · Aug 4, 2019

Offer up your thoughts to God. As soon as they enter your mind. Ask Him to replace them with His grace.

Lay them at His feet.

God bless you

Chris V++ · Aug 4, 2019

bornagain98 said:
I thought the unforgivable sin was to honestly believe/call God evil.

I think it might be more of being prompted by the Holy Spirit towards Christ and rejecting Him, or something like that. I found this link about it. Unpardonable Sin

Our brains are thought producing organs. You ever hear of that thought experiment, 'Try not to think of a pink elephant. ' It's hard not to. But instead of pink elephants your brain is making you anxious about unpardonable sins. You just have to find a way to change the channel.

Mari17 · Aug 6, 2019

bornagain98 said:
I posted a few days ago about this but my obsessive thoughts are ruining my life and they have for so long

These specific thoughts started 2 weeks ago, i was laying in the bed, I had actually just finished having a great conversation about the Bible with my mom that night. Before trying to fall asleep, I was actually listening to the song "Surrounded" by Michael W Smith and thinking about how God has defended me in my battles. I have had OCD revolving around the unforgivable sin for a very long time

When I went to try to fall asleep I started getting all of these super evil OCD thoughts out of NO WHERE. I was perfectly fine then it just hit

The instrusive thoughts are like "Can you PROVE your God is the real God and not something bad?" Or things like "How do you KNOW God is telling you the truth?" I obviously do not agree with these thoughts at all, I hate them.

It seems like arguing with them tends to make them worse. I 100% believe that God is holy and true. Everytime I try to relax or think about how good God is , these thoughts come up.

I can see one little thing that triggers these evil thoughts. I'm so scared one day I might commit this sin or turn my back on God. Of course I would never do that, just the thought of the devil tricking me is so terrifying.

I just came back from a really fun trip with my family. Im not even happy, I'm just stressed again. My room is a mess, I feel like nothing I do even matters because I'm going to hell anyways

I love God, I have felt His love and His goodness, I trust Him, He's done so much for me and given me such a great family and friends. Why would I have these doubting thoughts about Him????

I usually just tell my OCD "God has been good to me, I believe His word. " sometimes it goes away, some times not. I just don't ever want to be tricked by the devil and believe some lie and go to hell. I just want to bawl and cry.

I tell my mom about this and she is very helpful but she doesn't understand OCD and just tells me to let go if the fear. How can I not be afraid for my eternal soul?? She says no one can pluck me from God's hand, but what if I commit that sin? Ive read its not possible for a christian to commit that sin, but is that true?

I wish I could go back in time to the way I felt before that day. Please pray for me, please offer me your advice, I just need help

Hi, thanks for sharing your struggles! Fear of committing the unpardonable sin is SUCH a common obsession for Christians with OCD. And you're right, arguing does make the thoughts worse. That's because you're playing right into OCD's hand. It WANTS you to argue, to research, to ask for reassurance, because every time you do, it can come up with another "But what if...?" The key is to STOP arguing with it, to kind of just ignore the thoughts and begin to treat them as meaningless. Right now your brain, which has an overabundance of anxiety due to the OCD, is freaking out at the different thoughts that you get. "Normal" people get these thoughts too, but they know enough to say "Yeah, well, no big deal, I don't really mean it." For some reason, those of us with OCD get stuck on them. Then we start ruminating and hyper-analyzing and the whole thing becomes a huge deal that we get more and more stuck in. Do you have a therapist? How much do you know about treating OCD? I've had OCD for almost my whole life, with lots of different themes, so I'd be happy to share some useful websites and/or experiences/advice if you want. OCD is a scary disorder, but VERY treatable!

bornagain98 · Aug 6, 2019

Thank you, Mari17.
I have not seen a therapist, I know i probably should. I dont know much about treating it, besides that trying to not give head to the thoughts is helpful. What's been helpful for you? (Thank you, btw)

sdowney717 · Aug 7, 2019

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Your no worse a person than anyone else, pray and seek God's face.

What does it mean to seek God’s face? | GotQuestions.org

Mari17 · Aug 7, 2019

sdowney717 said:
Demons are speaking to you, when Christ cast them out of a person, he would forbid them to speak for obviously good reasons as they speak lies and are disruptive.
Your no worse a person than anyone else, pray and seek God's face.

What does it mean to seek God’s face? | GotQuestions.org

I respectfully disagree. OCD is not the same as demons.

Mari17 · Aug 7, 2019

bornagain98 said:
Thank you, Mari17.
I have not seen a therapist, I know i probably should. I dont know much about treating it, besides that trying to not give head to the thoughts is helpful. What's been helpful for you? (Thank you, btw)

Well, seeing a therapist can be helpful, but it is a means to an end. The key is to learn how to manage OCD. If you need medication or a therapist to help you with the process, then do that. But there is a lot you can learn to implement on your own.

Yes, not giving attention to the thoughts is key. Also refusing to do compulsions - which can be obvious ones like checking or handwashing, or not so obvious ones like researching, ruminating, and asking for reassurance. Learning to treat the thoughts as meaningless will help retrain your brain that they really are meaningless. It's a hard battle, but it is possible!!

For now, I'll give you links to some of my favorite resources. But definitely feel free to ask questions or discuss more if you'd like. You can also pm me anytime!
http://ocdandchristianity.com/ (The whole site is good, but I really like the blog posts.)
Welcome
https://www.ocdonline.com/ (Dr. Phillipson is a leading expert in the field.)
The OCD Stories | Real Stories That Educate & Inspire Those With OCD (I don't agree with everything on this site, but there's a huge stockpile of information and stories, as well as interviews with top professionals about OCD.)
https://noiseinyourhead.com/free-video-series/ (Great depiction of how to deal with obsessive thoughts. Watch #3 if nothing else, but I'd recommend watching the whole series!)
I'm also part of an online anxiety/OCD support group which is pretty good. A lot of people on it have religious OCD and can offer good advice about what they've learned. It's called "Christianity and Anxiety Disorders," and if you request to join you just answer a couple of screening questions, and a moderator should approve you within a day or two.

bornagain98 · Aug 8, 2019

Mari17 said:
Well, seeing a therapist can be helpful, but it is a means to an end. The key is to learn how to manage OCD. If you need medication or a therapist to help you with the process, then do that. But there is a lot you can learn to implement on your own.

Yes, not giving attention to the thoughts is key. Also refusing to do compulsions - which can be obvious ones like checking or handwashing, or not so obvious ones like researching, ruminating, and asking for reassurance. Learning to treat the thoughts as meaningless will help retrain your brain that they really are meaningless. It's a hard battle, but it is possible!!

For now, I'll give you links to some of my favorite resources. But definitely feel free to ask questions or discuss more if you'd like. You can also pm me anytime!
http://ocdandchristianity.com/ (The whole site is good, but I really like the blog posts.)
Welcome
https://www.ocdonline.com/ (Dr. Phillipson is a leading expert in the field.)
The OCD Stories | Real Stories That Educate & Inspire Those With OCD (I don't agree with everything on this site, but there's a huge stockpile of information and stories, as well as interviews with top professionals about OCD.)
https://noiseinyourhead.com/free-video-series/ (Great depiction of how to deal with obsessive thoughts. Watch #3 if nothing else, but I'd recommend watching the whole series!)
I'm also part of an online anxiety/OCD support group which is pretty good. A lot of people on it have religious OCD and can offer good advice about what they've learned. It's called "Christianity and Anxiety Disorders," and if you request to join you just answer a couple of screening questions, and a moderator should approve you within a day or two.

Thank you so much! This is very helpful.God bless

Go Braves · Aug 8, 2019

Will be my pleasure to pray for you. Fixing to head to sleep, so will be sending up some prayers for you soon.

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