Was Satan "cast out" during the first century?

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Joh 12:27 Now is my soul troubled; and what shall I say? Father, save me from this hour: but for this cause came I unto this hour.
Joh 12:28 Father, glorify thy name. Then came there a voice from heaven, saying, I have both glorified it, and will glorify it again.

Joh 12:29 The people therefore, that stood by, and heard it, said that it thundered: others said, An angel spake to him.
Joh 12:30 Jesus answered and said, This voice came not because of me, but for your sakes.
Joh 12:31 Now is the judgment of this world: now shall the prince of this world be cast out.
Joh 12:32 And I, if I be lifted up from the earth, will draw all men unto me.

What does this passage mean?
Could it be related to the "binding" of Satan?


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The prince of this world,
the prince of the power of the air,
still controls all the people of the world,
including even the elect, until they are saved.

Ephesians 2

The Apocalypse (Revelation) : the whole world refuses to repent of serving demons, and continue daily all their lives worshiping idols, thus they are condemned for their unbelief.
 
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Joh 12:27 Now is my soul troubled; and what shall I say? Father, save me from this hour: but for this cause came I unto this hour.
Joh 12:28 Father, glorify thy name. Then came there a voice from heaven, saying, I have both glorified it, and will glorify it again.

Joh 12:29 The people therefore, that stood by, and heard it, said that it thundered: others said, An angel spake to him.
Joh 12:30 Jesus answered and said, This voice came not because of me, but for your sakes.
Joh 12:31 Now is the judgment of this world: now shall the prince of this world be cast out.
Joh 12:32 And I, if I be lifted up from the earth, will draw all men unto me.

What does this passage mean?
Could it be related to the "binding" of Satan?


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Joh 12:27 Now is my soul troubled; and what shall I say? Father, save me from this hour: but for this cause came I unto this hour.
Joh 12:28 Father, glorify thy name. Then came there a voice from heaven, saying, I have both glorified it, and will glorify it again.

Joh 12:29 The people therefore, that stood by, and heard it, said that it thundered: others said, An angel spake to him.
Joh 12:30 Jesus answered and said, This voice came not because of me, but for your sakes.
Joh 12:31 Now is the judgment of this world: now shall the prince of this world be cast out.
Joh 12:32 And I, if I be lifted up from the earth, will draw all men unto me.

What does this passage mean?
Could it be related to the "binding" of Satan?


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Yes, Satan no longer has dominion over those in Christ...Satan is bound to them; he has no hold...this is a casting out. He may tempt and we may be deceived at times, but through faith in Christ and repentance he/Satan we remain in Christ. Furthermore, Jesus redeemed us through His mission to fulfill the Law/perfectly keep it and to pay for our sins with His blood by His death on the cross. In this way Satan was cast out among us and is bound.
Yes, I believe this is the binding of Satan spoken of in Revelation more clues to this idea are found in the Gospels, for instance...
Matthew 12:28-29:
“Or again, how can anyone enter a strong man’s house and carry off his possessions unless he first ties up the strong man? Then he can plunder his house.
Matthew 24:42-44:
“Therefore keep watch, because you do not know on what day your Lord will come. 43 But understand this: If the owner of the house had known at what time of night the thief was coming, he would have kept watch and would not have let his house be broken into. 44 So you also must be ready, because the Son of Man will come at an hour when you do not expect him.
Mark 3:26-27:
And if Satan opposes himself and is divided, he cannot stand; his end has come. 27 In fact, no one can enter a strong man’s house without first tying him up. Then he can plunder the strong man’s house.
Luke 11:21-22:
“When a strong man, fully armed, guards his own house, his possessions are safe. 22 But when someone stronger attacks and overpowers him, he takes away the armor in which the man trusted and divides up his plunder.
 
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In this way Satan was cast out among us and is bound.
The wording of this statement got my attention.

Remember it is written: "there ARE MANY ANTI-CHRISTS AMONG US" .... ?

Does this relate in any way to your thoughts that Satan was cast out "among us" and is bound ?
 
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The wording of this statement got my attention.

Remember it is written: "there ARE MANY ANTI-CHRISTS AMONG US" .... ?

Does this relate in any way to your thoughts that Satan was cast out "among us" and is bound ?
Not here in this context. I am referring to Satan. But you bring up another point and I suppose one could conclude that the very concept of Satan often encompasses all the spiritual forces of evil. Christ Jesus uses the singular in his reference above in the OP.
Apostle Paul's writings refer to the spiritual forces of evil and Apostle John's to the many anti-Christs. I conclude Satan certainly is a leading force among all the forces of evil from what is given us in the Scriptures. Fallen Christians or atheists are in my view anti-Christs who are different than the one devil, Satan. My understanding is that anti-Christ's are a product of Satan's deception and through their words and actions they deceive others. Seems to me that Satan is more sinister in that his goal is to deceive and lead others away from their secure position obtained through their sincere faith in Christ (which is a gift, and must be cherished and protected to remain valid.)
 
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through their sincere faith in Christ (which is a gift, and must be cherished and protected to remain valid.)

Is "faith" the gift, or is Grace the gift in the verse below?

Eph 2:8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:


Analysis of the Greek by Adam Clarke:

Ephesians 2:8

For by grace are ye saved, through faith - As ye are now brought into a state of salvation, your sins being all blotted out, and you made partakers of the Holy Spirit; and, having a hope full of immortality, you must not attribute this to any works or merit of yours; for when this Gospel reached you, you were all found dead in trespasses and dead in sins; therefore it was God’s free mercy to you, manifested through Christ, in whom ye were commanded to believe; and, having believed by the power of the Holy Spirit, ye received, and were sealed by, the Holy Spirit of promise; so that this salvation is in no sense of yourselves, but is the free gift of God; and not of any kind of works; so that no man can boast as having wrought out his own salvation, or even contributed any thing towards it. By grace arc ye saved, through faith in Christ. This is a true doctrine, and continues to be essential to the salvation of man to the end of the world.
But whether are we to understand, faith or salvation as being the gift of God? This question is answered by the Greek text: τῃ γαρ χαριτι εστε σεσωσμενοι δια της πιστεως· και τουτο ουκ εξ ὑμων· Θεου το δωρον, ουκ εξ εργων· ἱνα μη τις καυχησηται· “By this grace ye are saved through faith; and This (τουτο, this salvation) not of you; it is the gift of God, not of works: so that no one can boast.” “The relative τουτο, this, which is in the neuter gender, cannot stand for πιστις, faith, which is the feminine; but it has the whole sentence that goes before for its antecedent.” But it may be asked: Is not faith the gift of God? Yes, as to the grace by which it is produced; but the grace or power to believe, and the act of believing, are two different things. Without the grace or power to believe no man ever did or can believe; but with that power the act of faith is a man’s own. God never believes for any man, no more than he repents for him: the penitent, through this grace enabling him, believes for himself: nor does he believe necessarily, or impulsively when he has that power; the power to believe may be present long before it is exercised, else, why the solemn warnings with which we meet every where in the word of God, and threatenings against those who do not believe? Is not this a proof that such persons have the power but do not use it? They believe not, and therefore are not established. This, therefore, is the true state of the case: God gives the power, man uses the power thus given, and brings glory to God: without the power no man can believe; with it, any man may.

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Is "faith" the gift, or is Grace the gift in the verse below?

Eph 2:8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:


Analysis of the Greek by Adam Clarke:

Ephesians 2:8

For by grace are ye saved, through faith - As ye are now brought into a state of salvation, your sins being all blotted out, and you made partakers of the Holy Spirit; and, having a hope full of immortality, you must not attribute this to any works or merit of yours; for when this Gospel reached you, you were all found dead in trespasses and dead in sins; therefore it was God’s free mercy to you, manifested through Christ, in whom ye were commanded to believe; and, having believed by the power of the Holy Spirit, ye received, and were sealed by, the Holy Spirit of promise; so that this salvation is in no sense of yourselves, but is the free gift of God; and not of any kind of works; so that no man can boast as having wrought out his own salvation, or even contributed any thing towards it. By grace arc ye saved, through faith in Christ. This is a true doctrine, and continues to be essential to the salvation of man to the end of the world.
But whether are we to understand, faith or salvation as being the gift of God? This question is answered by the Greek text: τῃ γαρ χαριτι εστε σεσωσμενοι δια της πιστεως· και τουτο ουκ εξ ὑμων· Θεου το δωρον, ουκ εξ εργων· ἱνα μη τις καυχησηται· “By this grace ye are saved through faith; and This (τουτο, this salvation) not of you; it is the gift of God, not of works: so that no one can boast.” “The relative τουτο, this, which is in the neuter gender, cannot stand for πιστις, faith, which is the feminine; but it has the whole sentence that goes before for its antecedent.” But it may be asked: Is not faith the gift of God? Yes, as to the grace by which it is produced; but the grace or power to believe, and the act of believing, are two different things. Without the grace or power to believe no man ever did or can believe; but with that power the act of faith is a man’s own. God never believes for any man, no more than he repents for him: the penitent, through this grace enabling him, believes for himself: nor does he believe necessarily, or impulsively when he has that power; the power to believe may be present long before it is exercised, else, why the solemn warnings with which we meet every where in the word of God, and threatenings against those who do not believe? Is not this a proof that such persons have the power but do not use it? They believe not, and therefore are not established. This, therefore, is the true state of the case: God gives the power, man uses the power thus given, and brings glory to God: without the power no man can believe; with it, any man may.

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This is a departure from your OP, but thinking that is your prerogative so I'll respond.
First off I may have a slightly different understanding, but not so much that I would judge you (or myself) in danger here as misunderstanding a salvation issue.
I look at both grace and faith as gifts of God. God calls us to the faith (Romans 9:12; 8:28; 8:30)...predestination...don't these teach us that faith is a gift? I see it that way. (see esp. Acts 27:24)
I believe I can go farther by pointing to some of the gifts of the Holy Spirit given to the Body in I Corinthians 12:9...great faith.
 
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This is a departure from your OP, but thinking that is your prerogative so I'll respond.
First off I may have a slightly different understanding, but not so much that I would judge you (or myself) in danger here as misunderstanding a salvation issue.
I look at both grace and faith as gifts of God. God calls us to the faith (Romans 9:12; 8:28; 8:30)...predestination...don't these teach us that faith is a gift? I see it that way. (see esp. Acts 27:24)
I believe I can go farther by pointing to some of the gifts of the Holy Spirit given to the Body in I Corinthians 12:9...great faith.

As long as your view of predestination is not belittling, or denying foreknowledge, and are not promoting Augustine's view of election we will not be in disagreement.


Gen 25:23 And the LORD said unto her, Two nations are in thy womb, and two manner of people shall be separated from thy bowels; and the one people shall be stronger than the other people; and the elder shall serve the younger.

Joh_12:32 And I, if I be lifted up from the earth, will draw all men unto me

Act 3:19 Repent ye therefore, and be converted, that your sins may be blotted out, when the times of refreshing shall come from the presence of the Lord;

Act 17:30 And the times of this ignorance God winked at; but now commandeth all men every where to repent:

Eph 1:13 In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise,



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As long as your view of predestination is not belittling, or denying foreknowledge, and are not promoting Augustine's view of election we will not be in disagreement.


Gen 25:23 And the LORD said unto her, Two nations are in thy womb, and two manner of people shall be separated from thy bowels; and the one people shall be stronger than the other people; and the elder shall serve the younger.

Joh_12:32 And I, if I be lifted up from the earth, will draw all men unto me

Act 3:19 Repent ye therefore, and be converted, that your sins may be blotted out, when the times of refreshing shall come from the presence of the Lord;

Act 17:30 And the times of this ignorance God winked at; but now commandeth all men every where to repent:

Eph 1:13 In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise,



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I am not really knowledgeable of writings outside the Bible. I am only vaguely familiar with them as others bring them up and so I don't know what you mean by belittling or denying foreknowledge, etc. God's foreknowledge? I certainly do not deny God's foreknowledge of who will be saved.
I am not a Calvanist...my church practice is conservative Lutheran and so Luther is our major influence...Luther's catechism study in younger years. You can find that Lutherans believe in predestination. I do not know your positions, however, this may not be the place for these "discoveries" about our faiths. I can say that I recall agreeing with you on many, many threads.
 
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I am not really knowledgeable of writings outside the Bible. I am only vaguely familiar with them as others bring them up and so I don't know what you mean by belittling or denying foreknowledge, etc. God's foreknowledge? I certainly do not deny God's foreknowledge of who will be saved.
I am not a Calvanist...my church practice is conservative Lutheran and so Luther is our major influence...Luther's catechism study in younger years. You can find that Lutherans believe in predestination. I do not know your positions, however, this may not be the place for these "discoveries" about our faiths. I can say that I recall agreeing with you on many, many threads.

Thank you for the kind response.

Luk 10:17 And the seventy returned again with joy, saying, Lord, even the devils are subject unto us through thy name.

Luk 10:18 And he said unto them, I beheld Satan as lightning fall from heaven.
Luk 10:19 Behold, I give unto you power to tread on serpents and scorpions, and over all the power of the enemy: and nothing shall by any means hurt you.
Luk 10:20 Notwithstanding in this rejoice not, that the spirits are subject unto you; but rather rejoice, because your names are written in heaven.

Do you think the passage above is related to John 12:31?

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Thank you for the kind response.

Luk 10:17 And the seventy returned again with joy, saying, Lord, even the devils are subject unto us through thy name.

Luk 10:18 And he said unto them, I beheld Satan as lightning fall from heaven.
Luk 10:19 Behold, I give unto you power to tread on serpents and scorpions, and over all the power of the enemy: and nothing shall by any means hurt you.
Luk 10:20 Notwithstanding in this rejoice not, that the spirits are subject unto you; but rather rejoice, because your names are written in heaven.

Do you think the passage above is related to John 12:31?

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Yes it is related, but related only. The words of Christ in that passage speak to the power the believer has in Christ (for it is God who works in you to will and to act in order to fulfill his good purpose. --Philippians 2:13). This binding or casting out of Satan which Christ did through His work on the cross (and as it is written, His work has been finished since the creation of the world.--Hebrews 4:3) provides all believers this power over the enemy through Christ. This does not mean, however, that a believer's Kingdom work won't be met by opposition, persecution of various sorts or even death as is evidenced by the lives of the first apostles. Also, II Timothy 3:12-13:
In fact, everyone who wants to live a godly life in Christ Jesus will be persecuted, 13 while evildoers and impostors will go from bad to worse, deceiving and being deceived.
It is obvious that it is the eternal soul which is protected forever in Christ through the binding. I think of it as this:
Temptation occurs to a believer, the believer is very persuaded to sin, but in his/her sincere devotion to Christ he/she prays earnestly to Jesus for help to master the situation, for a right spirit. Jesus responds...perhaps tempering the desire to sin...Jesus has bound Satan, casting him out. The believer has bound Satan through Christ...through his union with Christ.
In re-reading the passages I believe we need to note that these were words delivered by Christ to the apostles before they embarked on a mission. The Apostles were given power to perform miraculous signs as evidence of their God-given authority. I believe the spiritual power is given us as well and even today with great faith we move mountains by winning souls to Christ alone.
 
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Interesting as I have been thinking about this same passage today.

Compliment it with Revelation 12 and perhaps it helps clear things up or maybe it muddies the water worse... ;)

The first question becomes:
WHERE is Satan cast out of?
Satan becomes cast out of Heaven.

WHERE is Satan cast down to?
Earth. He gets free reign for some period until Jesus defeats and binds him on earth.

And in fact Satan will eventually be imprisoned/bound on Earth......

But - there seems to be some other stuff missing and some other pieces unresolved.... So then was Jesus given a vision of Satan being cast out sometime in the future or was the statement a statement or purpose which Jesus would accomplish sometime in the future? The Revelation was given when John was on the Isle of Patmos - quite a few years after Jesus

I also think we are a bit glib about this event... Satan is one of the most persuasive and manipulative creatures in creation. He is able to persuade angels who have direct contact with God himself. He was able to likewise deceive Eve - who also had direct contact/interaction with God in the garden... He has thousands of years of experience with mankind and has no issue what-so-ever persuading, manipulating, and deceiving us to do whatever he wants.... think about the Revelation account of uniting and convincing the military empires making up The Beast.... He has no issue coopting all those nations and empires within a very short period of time...

Anyway - I appreciate the thread. Lots to think about.



Joh 12:27 Now is my soul troubled; and what shall I say? Father, save me from this hour: but for this cause came I unto this hour.
Joh 12:28 Father, glorify thy name. Then came there a voice from heaven, saying, I have both glorified it, and will glorify it again.

Joh 12:29 The people therefore, that stood by, and heard it, said that it thundered: others said, An angel spake to him.
Joh 12:30 Jesus answered and said, This voice came not because of me, but for your sakes.
Joh 12:31 Now is the judgment of this world: now shall the prince of this world be cast out.
Joh 12:32 And I, if I be lifted up from the earth, will draw all men unto me.

What does this passage mean?
Could it be related to the "binding" of Satan?


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And in fact Satan will eventually be imprisoned/bound on Earth......

Is earth presently Satan's prison, since he cannot now return to heaven to be in the presence of God, and Christ?

Gen 3:14 And the LORD God said unto the serpent, Because thou hast done this, thou art cursed above all cattle, and above every beast of the field; upon thy belly shalt thou go, and dust shalt thou eat all the days of thy life:


2Pe_2:4 For if God spared not the angels that sinned, but cast them down to hell, and delivered them into chains of darkness, to be reserved unto judgment;


Jud_1:6 And the angels which kept not their first estate, but left their own habitation, he hath reserved in everlasting chains under darkness unto the judgment of the great day.


Other angels, like Gabriel, can travel from heaven to earth and back.
However, that ability has been taken from Satan.

The Book of Revelation is not in chronological order. The beginning of Revelation chapter 12 is a history lesson which contains the fall of Satan and the birth and death of Christ.

Rev 12:7 And there was war in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels,
Rev 12:8 And prevailed not; neither was their place found any more in heaven.
Rev 12:9 And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.

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Interesting as I have been thinking about this same passage today.

Compliment it with Revelation 12 and perhaps it helps clear things up or maybe it muddies the water worse... ;)

The first question becomes:
WHERE is Satan cast out of?
Satan becomes cast out of Heaven.

WHERE is Satan cast down to?
Earth. He gets free reign for some period until Jesus defeats and binds him on earth.

And in fact Satan will eventually be imprisoned/bound on Earth......

But - there seems to be some other stuff missing and some other pieces unresolved.... So then was Jesus given a vision of Satan being cast out sometime in the future or was the statement a statement or purpose which Jesus would accomplish sometime in the future? The Revelation was given when John was on the Isle of Patmos - quite a few years after Jesus

I also think we are a bit glib about this event... Satan is one of the most persuasive and manipulative creatures in creation. He is able to persuade angels who have direct contact with God himself. He was able to likewise deceive Eve - who also had direct contact/interaction with God in the garden... He has thousands of years of experience with mankind and has no issue what-so-ever persuading, manipulating, and deceiving us to do whatever he wants.... think about the Revelation account of uniting and convincing the military empires making up The Beast.... He has no issue coopting all those nations and empires within a very short period of time...

Anyway - I appreciate the thread. Lots to think about.
I would like to respond to your post, but the hour is late so it will be a spotty response...I'll try to expound later if you'd like.
The Genesis 3:15...the first prophecy of the Messiah, the One to come, the One to save us from our reprehensible sin...
15 And I will put enmity
between you and the woman,
and between your offspring and hers;
he will crush your head,
and you will strike his heel.

God is speaking to the snake/Satan. Therefore Satan was crushed, cast out or bound when Jesus was on the cross (and Himself sustained the strike to His heel). Satan has been rendered ineffective against the believer because belief means faith and by faith we are declared righteous in God's sight. Christ redeemed us on the cross and believers who hold firm to their end cannot be taken from Christ. The believers, however, continue to possess the curse of the sinful nature until it is taken away in heaven...No longer will there be any curse.--Revelation 22:3

If your faith does not include "once saved, always saved" as mine does not as a conservative Lutheran (there is the parable of the seeds and many passages which to my mind disprove OSAS) then Satan has much mischief he can still hope to perform (check out the beginning of Job to get an idea of what he's up to. He will continue so to the end of all things.

I have read something in your post which leads me to believe that you have a strictly literal interpretation of Revelation. I do not. Though I begin reading everything in God's Word literally when other passages modify that position I must too. This is not a mistake, God's Word itself indicates that there are parables and sayings of the wise...it says so to prepare us for them. See...
Proverbs 1:1-6:
The proverbs of Solomon son of David, king of Israel:
for gaining wisdom and instruction;
for understanding words of insight;
for receiving instruction in prudent behavior,
doing what is right and just and fair;
for giving prudence to those who are simple,
knowledge and discretion to the young—
let the wise listen and add to their learning,
and let the discerning get guidance—
for understanding proverbs and parables,
the sayings and riddles of the wise.

This calls for wisdom. (Revelation 13:18) The books of Solomon are the books of wisdom (as in Proverbs above). I could go on, but short on time. Revelation is a riddle just as Jesus introduces that fact by revealing that the stars represent the angels of the churches, etc. Also, all we are taught about dreams or revelations throughout Scripture are that they need to be interpreted or made plain to understand. All riddles are solved by key words or passages of the Bible so that it becomes very safe and very apparent.
I say all this to you, appropriately or not, don't know for certain yet, because you write that Satan will be bound on earth and seem to loose the spiritual significance in favor of the earthly. That is not what God wants us to understand here...in my opinion.
The Thousand Year Reign is representative of the unknown time till Christ returns...may be short time or long...see II Peter 3:3-9.
Satan is bound during this time. It is that binding or casting out or crushing which we are now addressing.
 
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"Was Satan Cast out during the 1st century?"

YES.
Satan was bound/judged/cast out by Christ's ministry, reversing satan's dominion over the People of God, granting power over all darkness to the saints, and immediately enabling the gospel to spread to all nations.
(John 12:31 and Matt 12:28-29, Heb 2:14-15 and 1 John 3:8).

Satan was cast out, judged, spoiled and bound by Jesus Christ:


John 12:31
Now is the judgment of this world: now shall the prince of this world be cast out.

1 John 3:8
For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that he might destroy the works of the devil.

Hebrews 2:14
Forasmuch then as the children are partakers of flesh and blood, he also himself likewise took part of the same;
that through death he might destroy him that had the power of death, that is, the devil.

Colossians 2:15
And having spoiled principalities and powers, he made a show of them openly, triumphing over them in it.

Matthew 12:28-29
If I cast out demons by the Spirit of God, then the kingdom of God has come upon you...how can anyone enter the strong man's house and carry off his property, unless he first binds the strong man? And then he will plunder his house. (Jesus here claims to have bound satan and plundered his house)

2 Timothy 1:10
But is now made manifest by the appearing of our Saviour Jesus Christ, who hath abolished death, and hath brought life and immortality to light through the gospel

John 16:8,11
And when [the Holy Spirit] is come, he will reprove the world of sin, and of righteousness, and of judgment:...of judgment, because the prince of this world is judged

Acts 26:17-18
To the nations I now send you to open their eyes to turn them from darkness to light and from the power of satan unto God, that they may receive forgiveness of sins and inheritance among them who are sanctified by faith that is in me.

Jesus Christ, not satan, is God and King over this world (over all of heaven and earth):

Matthew 28:18
And Jesus came up and spoke to them, saying, All authority has been given to Me in heaven and on earth.

Ephesians 1:19-23
He raised Him from the dead and seated Him at His right hand in the heavenly places, far above all rule and authority and power and dominion, and every name that is named, not only in this age but also in the one to come. And He put all things in subjection under His feet, and gave Him as head over all things to the church, which is His body, the fullness of Him who fills all in all.

1 Peter 3:22
Jesus Christ, who is at the right hand of God, having gone into heaven, after angels and authorities and powers had been subjected to Him.

Revelation 1:5-6
Jesus Christ, the faithful witness, the firstborn of the dead, and the ruler of the kings of the earth. To Him who loves us and released us from our sins by His blood--and He has made us to be a kingdom, priests to His God and Father--to Him be the glory and the dominion forever and ever.

As for The Accuser, Who shall bring a charge against God's elect?

Romans 8:31-34
What then shall we say to these things? If God is for us, who is against us? He who did not spare His own Son, but delivered Him over for us all, how will He not also with Him freely give us all things? Who will bring a charge against God's elect? God is the one who justifies; who is the one who condemns? Christ Jesus is He who died, yes, rather who was raised, who is at the right hand of God, who also intercedes for us.

1 John 5:18
he that is begotten of God keepeth himself, and that wicked one toucheth him not.
 
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"Was Satan Cast out during the 1st century?"
YES.
Satan was bound/judged/cast out by Christ's ministry, reversing satan's dominion over the People of God, granting power over all darkness to the saints, and immediately enabling the gospel to spread to all nations.
(John 12:31 and Matt 12:28-29, Heb 2:14-15 and 1 John 3:8).

Satan was cast out, judged, spoiled and bound by Jesus Christ:


John 12:31
Now is the judgment of this world: now shall the prince of this world be cast out.


1 John 3:8
For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that he might destroy the works of the devil.

Hebrews 2:14
Forasmuch then as the children are partakers of flesh and blood, he also himself likewise took part of the same;
that through death he might destroy him that had the power of death, that is, the devil.

Colossians 2:15
And having spoiled principalities and powers, he made a show of them openly, triumphing over them in it.

Matthew 12:28-29
If I cast out demons by the Spirit of God, then the kingdom of God has come upon you...how can anyone enter the strong man's house and carry off his property, unless he first binds the strong man? And then he will plunder his house. (Jesus here claims to have bound satan and plundered his house)

2 Timothy 1:10
But is now made manifest by the appearing of our Saviour Jesus Christ, who hath abolished death, and hath brought life and immortality to light through the gospel

John 16:8,11
And when [the Holy Spirit] is come, he will reprove the world of sin, and of righteousness, and of judgment:...of judgment, because the prince of this world is judged

Acts 26:17-18
To the nations I now send you to open their eyes to turn them from darkness to light and from the power of satan unto God, that they may receive forgiveness of sins and inheritance among them who are sanctified by faith that is in me.

Jesus Christ, not satan, is God and King over this world (over all of heaven and earth):

Matthew 28:18
And Jesus came up and spoke to them, saying, All authority has been given to Me in heaven and on earth.

Ephesians 1:19-23
He raised Him from the dead and seated Him at His right hand in the heavenly places, far above all rule and authority and power and dominion, and every name that is named, not only in this age but also in the one to come. And He put all things in subjection under His feet, and gave Him as head over all things to the church, which is His body, the fullness of Him who fills all in all.

1 Peter 3:22
Jesus Christ, who is at the right hand of God, having gone into heaven, after angels and authorities and powers had been subjected to Him.

Revelation 1:5-6
Jesus Christ, the faithful witness, the firstborn of the dead, and the ruler of the kings of the earth. To Him who loves us and released us from our sins by His blood--and He has made us to be a kingdom, priests to His God and Father--to Him be the glory and the dominion forever and ever.

As for The Accuser, Who shall bring a charge against God's elect?

Romans 8:31-34
What then shall we say to these things? If God is for us, who is against us? He who did not spare His own Son, but delivered Him over for us all, how will He not also with Him freely give us all things? Who will bring a charge against God's elect? God is the one who justifies; who is the one who condemns? Christ Jesus is He who died, yes, rather who was raised, who is at the right hand of God, who also intercedes for us.

1 John 5:18
he that is begotten of God keepeth himself, and that wicked one toucheth him not.
You didn't include Revelation 12:10 :angel:

[Please visit my "ruler of the world" thread]

The ruler of this world coming, judged, cast out

John 5:45
`No be ye supposing that I shall be accusing of-ye toward the Father,
the one accusing/kathgorwn <2723> (5723) ye is Moses into whom ye have hoped; [Reve 12:10]

John 14:30 "I will no longer talk much with you, for the ruler of this world is coming, and he has nothing in Me.

And behold! Look who comes after Jesus finishes His 4 chapters Garden Discourse:

John 18:3 Judas
, therefore, having taken the band and officers out of the Chief priests and Pharisees, doth come thither with torches and lamps, and weapons;

John 18:29 Pilate then went forth toward them and said "What accusation/kathgorian <2724> do ye bring against the Man, this one"?

Luke 23:
13 And Pilate having called together the chief priests, and the rulers, and the people,
14 Said toward them "ye toward-carry to Me the man, this, as turning away the people, and behold I before of ye examining, nothing found in this Man cause of which ye are accusing/kathgoreite <2723> (5719) against Him".

Paul actually appealed to Caesar since he was a Roman citizen:

Acts 25:11
“For if I am an offender, or have committed anything deserving of death, I do not object to dying; but if there is nothing in these things of which these men accuse me, no one can deliver me to them. I appeal to Caesar.”
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I am not sure if this event happened before, after the Cross or maybe at Jesus's ascension in Acts:

Revelation 12:10

And I hear great voice saying in the Heaven: "Now became the salvation and the power and the Kingdom of the God of us, and the authority of the Christ of Him, that was cast the Accuser<2725> of the brothers of us, the one accusing<2723> them in sight of the God of us day and night.
 
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Interesting as I have been thinking about this same passage today.

Compliment it with Revelation 12 and perhaps it helps clear things up or maybe it muddies the water worse... ;)

The first question becomes:
WHERE is Satan cast out of?
Satan becomes cast out of Heaven.

WHERE is Satan cast down to?
Earth. He gets free reign for some period until Jesus defeats and binds him on earth.

And in fact Satan will eventually be imprisoned/bound on Earth......

But - there seems to be some other stuff missing and some other pieces unresolved.... So then was Jesus given a vision of Satan being cast out sometime in the future or was the statement a statement or purpose which Jesus would accomplish sometime in the future? The Revelation was given when John was on the Isle of Patmos - quite a few years after Jesus

I also think we are a bit glib about this event... Satan is one of the most persuasive and manipulative creatures in creation. He is able to persuade angels who have direct contact with God himself. He was able to likewise deceive Eve - who also had direct contact/interaction with God in the garden... He has thousands of years of experience with mankind and has no issue what-so-ever persuading, manipulating, and deceiving us to do whatever he wants.... think about the Revelation account of uniting and convincing the military empires making up The Beast.... He has no issue coopting all those nations and empires within a very short period of time...

Anyway - I appreciate the thread. Lots to think about.
JohnC2--
Here is some more of the traditional interpretation of Revelation's 1000 year reign which I did not make clear only because I forget some folks are not familiar with this interpretation...
As I outlined already, the 1000 year reign is figurative in that it is referring the reader to what Peter says about Christ's return (and thus length of His reign as well)...it is unknown and Peter says in...
II Peter 3:8-9:
But do not forget this one thing, dear friends: With the Lord a day is like a thousand years, and a thousand years are like a day. The Lord is not slow in keeping his promise, as some understand slowness. Instead he is patient with you, not wanting anyone to perish, but everyone to come to repentance. --NIV
(But please review passages 1-9 for the full message and who and what attitude he is addressing)
It is also unknown to me if you believe as do I that Christ is reigning now...He ascended and took His seat of power at the right hand of the Father. I know there are several passages to bring this truth out, but look at I Corinthians 15:24-28:
Then the end will come, when he hands over the kingdom to God the Father after he has destroyed all dominion, authority and power. For he must reign until he has put all his enemies under his feet. The last enemy to be destroyed is death. For he “has put everything under his feet.” Now when it says that “everything” has been put under him, it is clear that this does not include God himself, who put everything under Christ. When he has done this, then the Son himself will be made subject to him who put everything under him, so that God may be all in all. --NIV
Therefore Christ is now reigning and we, as Christians, reign with Him...
Ephesians 2:6-7:
And God raised us up with Christ and seated us with him in the heavenly realms in Christ Jesus, in order that in the coming ages he might show the incomparable riches of his grace, expressed in his kindness to us in Christ Jesus. --NIV
Revelation 5:9-10:
And they sang a new song, saying:
You are worthy to take the scroll and to open its seals,
because you were slain,
and you bought us for God with your blood out of every tribe and language and people and nation.
You made them to be a kingdom and priests for our God,
and they will reign on the earth.
--EHV
As Christians we can understand this reign of ours here on earth and in the present tense not only because it is so stated in the passages above, but in that we have Christian work to perform "Kingdom Work"/ reigning on earth...and we do this only by the power of Christ...we are one with Christ says Ephesians and He is the Head of the Body of believers. Also according to Philippians 2:13 we read...for it is God who works in you to will and to act in order to fulfill his good purpose.

The reign of Christ is NOW and it is the same figurative 1000 year period in which Satan is bound. Many passages have already been posted by others here which I hope you read so as to understand our viewpoint on the binding of Satan by Christ's work on the cross. It would be interesting to get your thoughts or any questions. There are many other such "riddles" in Revelation. The first and second death and the first and second resurrection are also really neat riddles to share. I won't take the time if you have no interest however. I would encourage you to get a copy of the interpretation of Revelation according to the conservative Lutherans or by searching out the traditional interpretation of Revelation via other sources.
 
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Joh 12:27 Now is my soul troubled; and what shall I say? Father, save me from this hour: but for this cause came I unto this hour.
Joh 12:28 Father, glorify thy name. Then came there a voice from heaven, saying, I have both glorified it, and will glorify it again.

Joh 12:29 The people therefore, that stood by, and heard it, said that it thundered: others said, An angel spake to him.
Joh 12:30 Jesus answered and said, This voice came not because of me, but for your sakes.
Joh 12:31 Now is the judgment of this world: now shall the prince of this world be cast out.
Joh 12:32 And I, if I be lifted up from the earth, will draw all men unto me.

What does this passage mean?
Could it be related to the "binding" of Satan?


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Hi BABerean2,

I would like to get your opinion or anyone else’s here, on whether Matthew 12:43-45 is also related to the binding of Satan.

Matthew 12:43-45 When the unclean spirit is gone out of a man, he walketh through dry places, seeking rest, and findeth none. Then he saith, I will return into my house from whence I came out; and when he is come, he findeth it empty, swept and garnished. Then goeth he, and taketh with himself seven other spirits more wicked than himself, and they enter in and dwell there: and the last state of that man is worse than the first. Even so shall it be also unto this wicked generation.

My interpretation is the man represents Satan’s house (the strong man’s house) and the unclean spirit going out of the man is Satan being bound. Satan then goes through dry places or is cast into the bottomless pit.

When he is loosed he returns to his house and finds it swept, empty, and garnished or put in order. This would then relate to the action that happened while the strong man was bound. Since I think the binding of Satan means the gospel being allowed to be preached in all the world. This statement then based on my interpretation is referring to the Gentiles being saved, and the house being empty meaning the fullness of the Gentiles or the total number that were written in the book of life have now been removed or saved from Satan’s house. Satan’s house has now been spoiled.

Satan then takes 7 other spirits more wicked than himself and they enter in and dwell there. The seven other spirits being more wicked than Satan could be understood using Matthew 23:15 as something similar happens where the scribes and Pharisees convert someone and he is twofold the child of hell than they are. The strong man’s house now has Satan and seven other spirits, this then seems to correlate with Revelation 17:11 where the beast is called the eighth, and is of the seven, and goeth into perdition; and also with Revelation 20:8 where Satan goes out and deceives the nations after the 1,000 years.
 
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Hi BABerean2,

I would like to get your opinion or anyone else’s here, on whether Matthew 12:43-45 is also related to the binding of Satan.

Matthew 12:43-45 When the unclean spirit is gone out of a man, he walketh through dry places, seeking rest, and findeth none. Then he saith, I will return into my house from whence I came out; and when he is come, he findeth it empty, swept and garnished. Then goeth he, and taketh with himself seven other spirits more wicked than himself, and they enter in and dwell there: and the last state of that man is worse than the first. Even so shall it be also unto this wicked generation.

My interpretation is the man represents Satan’s house (the strong man’s house) and the unclean spirit going out of the man is Satan being bound. Satan then goes through dry places or is cast into the bottomless pit.

When he is loosed he returns to his house and finds it swept, empty, and garnished or put in order. This would then relate to the action that happened while the strong man was bound. Since I think the binding of Satan means the gospel being allowed to be preached in all the world. This statement then based on my interpretation is referring to the Gentiles being saved, and the house being empty meaning the fullness of the Gentiles or the total number that were written in the book of life have now been removed or saved from Satan’s house. Satan’s house has now been spoiled.

Satan then takes 7 other spirits more wicked than himself and they enter in and dwell there. The seven other spirits being more wicked than Satan could be understood using Matthew 23:15 as something similar happens where the scribes and Pharisees convert someone and he is twofold the child of hell than they are. The strong man’s house now has Satan and seven other spirits, this then seems to correlate with Revelation 17:11 where the beast is called the eighth, and is of the seven, and goeth into perdition; and also with Revelation 20:8 where Satan goes out and deceives the nations after the 1,000 years.

I cannot say for sure.

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