WHY IS THERE SO MANY WARNINGS FROM GOD'S WORD ABOUT LOSING SALVATION IF IT IS NOT POSSIBLE??

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ooppsss ..... you forgot your own advice apparently ...

28 Anyone who rejected the law of Moses died without mercy on the testimony of two or three witnesses. 29 How much more severely do you think someone deserves to be punished who has trampled the Son of God underfoot, who has treated as an unholy thing the blood of the covenant that sanctified them, and who has insulted the Spirit of grace?

That's the ones who were sanctified by the blood of the (new) covenant, saved once, bought by the blood of Jesus and set apart by Yahuweh ,

who then trampled underfoot His Grace, after having tasted of the heavenlies.....

for them there is no more sacrifice for their sins, as they once did have .... until they rebelled.....

Yep thanks Jeff HEBREWS 10:26-31 links very nicely with HEBREWS 6:4-8.
 
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Yep thanks Jeff HEBREWS 10:26-31 links very nicely with HEBREWS 6:4-8.

A reiteration by Paul in order to make sure the Jews fully understood that in placing themselves back under the Law and the Old Covenant was not wise.

Heb 10:35
Cast not away therefore your confidence, which hath great recompence of reward.

They had not done anything yet, because Paul clearly says "Cast not away therefore your confidence," because he knows that when he was speaking in Heb.6:4 "For it is impossible" Heb. 6:6 "If they shall fall away,"
 
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A reiteration by Paul in order to make sure the Jews fully understood that in placing themselves back under the Law and the Old Covenant was not wise.

Heb 10:35
Cast not away therefore your confidence, which hath great recompence of reward.

They had not done anything yet, because Paul clearly says "Cast not away therefore your confidence," because he knows that when he was speaking in Heb.6:4 "For it is impossible" Heb. 6:6 "If they shall fall away,"

Your error here as shown to someone else earlier is that you think the scriptures apply to someone else and are not written to you *1 CORINTHIANS 10:11; 2 TIMOTHY 3:16; MATTHEW 4:4. God is not the God of the dead but of the living *MATTHEW 12:32.

As posted to someone else earlier, HEBREWS 10:26-31 is written as a warning to believers not to continue in sin but this goes against the false gospel that you can sin and not lose your salvation which was the first lie given to Eve in the garden of Eden *GENESIS 3:1-5. Sin is the difference between the children of God and the children of the devil *1 JOHN 3:6-10; 1 JOHN 2:1-4 but many will find this out too late *MATTHEW 7:22-23 because instead of turning to God they turned to the teachings of men and the doctrines of devils to teachers crying peace and safety having itching ears *2 TIMOTHY 4:3 not know that sudden destruction was at the door *2 THESSALONIANS 5:3

How sad will it be at that time when many had a chance to hear Word of God but did not know the day of their visitiation *LUKE 19:42-44 and chose to turned away from hearing it in order to follow the teachings of men that led them away from the salvation that they were seeking *ACTS 20:29; 2 TIMOTHY 3:13; GALATIANS 6:7

If all these scriptures are written to believers for our admonition why do you not believe them?
 
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Your error here is that you think the scriptures apply to someone else and are not written to you
Scripture is for us, not to us. That’s your error, and why you fail often at context.
 
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ooppsss ..... you forgot your own advice apparently ...

28 Anyone who rejected the law of Moses died without mercy on the testimony of two or three witnesses. 29 How much more severely do you think someone deserves to be punished who has trampled the Son of God underfoot, who has treated as an unholy thing the blood of the covenant that sanctified them, and who has insulted the Spirit of grace?

That's the ones who were sanctified by the blood of the (new) covenant, saved once, bought by the blood of Jesus and set apart by Yahuweh ,

who then trampled underfoot His Grace, after having tasted of the heavenlies.....

for them there is no more sacrifice for their sins, as they once did have .... until they rebelled.....
You are still reading it as if it were written to a Gentile church.
 
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Yep thanks Jeff HEBREWS 10:26-31 links very nicely with HEBREWS 6:4-8.
Only if you neglect the chapters in between. Which, since you never quote them, is obviously what you do.
 
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“But when Christ appeared as a high priest of the good things to come, He entered through the greater and more perfect tabernacle, not made with hands, that is to say, not of this creation; and not through the blood of goats and calves, but through His own blood, He entered the holy place once for all, having obtained eternal redemption. For if the blood of goats and bulls and the ashes of a heifer sprinkling those who have been defiled sanctify for the cleansing of the flesh, how much more will the blood of Christ, who through the eternal Spirit offered Himself without blemish to God, cleanse your conscience from dead works to serve the living God? For this reason He is the mediator of a new covenant, so that, since a death has taken place for the redemption of the transgressions that were committed under the first covenant, those who have been called may receive the promise of the eternal inheritance. For where a covenant is, there must of necessity be the death of the one who made it. For a covenant is valid only when men are dead, for it is never in force while the one who made it lives. Therefore even the first covenant was not inaugurated without blood. For when every commandment had been spoken by Moses to all the people according to the Law, he took the blood of the calves and the goats, with water and scarlet wool and hyssop, and sprinkled both the book itself and all the people, saying, “T HIS IS THE BLOOD OF THE COVENANT WHICH GOD COMMANDED YOU.” And in the same way he sprinkled both the tabernacle and all the vessels of the ministry with the blood. And according to the Law, one may almost say, all things are cleansed with blood, and without shedding of blood there is no forgiveness. Therefore it was necessary for the copies of the things in the heavens to be cleansed with these, but the heavenly things themselves with better sacrifices than these. For Christ did not enter a holy place made with hands, a mere copy of the true one, but into heaven itself, now to appear in the presence of God for us; nor was it that He would offer Himself often, as the high priest enters the holy place year by year with blood that is not his own. Otherwise, He would have needed to suffer often since the foundation of the world; but now once at the consummation of the ages He has been manifested to put away sin by the sacrifice of Himself. And inasmuch as it is appointed for men to die once and after this comes judgment, so Christ also, having been offered once to bear the sins of many, will appear a second time for salvation without reference to sin, to those who eagerly await Him.”
‭‭Hebrews‬ ‭9:11-28‬ ‭NASB‬‬


It appears as if many have not read this, or if they have, they do not make the link between this and the Day of Atonement (Leviticus 16).

Just as the high priest entered once into the Holy of Holies every year, and made an offering for the people (not everyone in the whole world, but those who were counted as God’s people), so had Christ made an offering that was satisfying to His Father (1 John 2:2). Those sins atoned for were atoned for forever. He need not make further sacrifices. And if those sins were atoned for, then they will never be counted against His people (Romans 4:7-8). This is why salvation cannot be lost. It’s bought and paid for. Salvation is of the Lord. There’s nothing we can bring to the table to affect this, not even obedience or disobedience. If you think that repentance will help you stay in good standing, then you must think your sin can separate you, which means you continually sacrifice the Son over and over.
 
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Only if you neglect the chapters in between. Which, since you never quote them, is obviously what you do.
Not at all. The topic and subject matter of both HEBREWS 6:4-8 and HEBREWS 10:26-31 are warnings to believers not to fall away and depart from the believing and following God's Word to return to a life of sin. Ignoring God's Word does not make it dissappear. Only God's Word is true and we should believe and follow it *ROMANS 3:4. You are providing your own words which are not God's. Do you have any scripture to share? Seems not.
 
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Not really. Your contradicting yourself. Your error is that you think the scriptures apply to someone else and are not written for you *1 CORINTHIANS 10:11; 2 TIMOTHY 3:16; MATTHEW 4:4. God is not the God of the dead but of the living *MATTHEW 12:32.
My name is nowhere in scripture. Neither is yours. My name isn’t Timothy. I was never part of the church in Corinth. So no, not written to us, but it was saved for us. Proper biblical hermeneutics understands this.

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Now these things happened as examples for us, so that we would not crave evil things as they also craved.
— 1 Corinthians 10:6

Now these things happened to them as an example, and they were written for our instruction, upon whom the ends of the ages have come.
— 1 Corinthians 10:11

All Scripture is inspired by God and profitable for teaching, for reproof, for correction, for training in righteousness;
— 2 Timothy 3:16

Paul agrees that they were written for us, not to us.
 
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Not at all. The topic and subject matter of both HEBREWS 6:4-8 and HEBREWS 10:26-31 are warnings to believers not to fall away and depart from the believing and following God's Word to return to a life of sin. Ignoring God's Word does not make it dissappear. Only God's Word is true and we should believe and follow it *ROMANS 3:4. You are providing your own words which are not God's. Do you have any scripture to share? Seems not.
The problem is that you focus on those 11 verses and completely ignore the context. Proper biblical hermeneutics does not do this.
 
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The problem is that you focus on those 11 verses and completely ignore the context. Proper biblical hermeneutics does not do this.

Well here you go making claims your not able to prove again. Can you prove your claims? If you cannot than these words are only your words arguing with God's. There is no scripture that has been taken out of context. As shown earlier in post # 195 linked, these warnings are to believers not to depart from the faith back to a life of known unrepentant sin. If you cannot prove your claims why do you not believe the scriptures that are only sent in love as a help to you? Only God's Word and true and you have provided none. I know who I believe and follow and it is not you.

God's Sheep hear his Voice (the Word). Those who are not His Sheep do not hear
 
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My name is nowhere in scripture. Neither is yours. My name isn’t Timothy. I was never part of the church in Corinth. So no, not written to us, but it was saved for us. Proper biblical hermeneutics understands this.

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Now these things happened as examples for us, so that we would not crave evil things as they also craved.
— 1 Corinthians 10:6

Now these things happened to them as an example, and they were written for our instruction, upon whom the ends of the ages have come.
— 1 Corinthians 10:11

All Scripture is inspired by God and profitable for teaching, for reproof, for correction, for training in righteousness;
— 2 Timothy 3:16

Paul agrees that they were written for us, not to us.

If these scriptures are written for us to us there is little difference. They are given to given to believers by God. Your play on words is only a distraction to say that God's Word is not for God's people in the "present tense" which is not biblical. God is not the God of the dead but of the living *MATTHEW 12:32. Now if ALL THESE THINGS ARE WRITTEN FOR OUR ADMONITION upon whom the ends of the world have come *1 CORINTHIANS 10:11 and ALL SCRIPTURE is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness *2 TIMOTHY 3:16-17 and man is to live by EVERY WORD THAT PROCEEDS OUT OF THE MOUTH OF GOD *MATTHEW 4:4. Why do you not believe HEBREWS 6:4-8 and HEBREWS 10:26-31 which shows those who were once believers can FALL AWAY and depart from God's Word back into a life of sin to become unbelievers? Only God's Word is true and we should believe and follow it.

God's Sheep Hear His Voice (the Word).
 
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Well here you go making claims your not able to prove again. Can you prove your claims? If you cannot than these words are only your words arguing with God's. There is no scripture that has been taken out of context. As shown earlier in post #195, these warnings are to believers not to depart from the faith back to a life of known unrepentant sin. If you cannot prove your claims why do you not believe the scriptures that are only sent in love as a help to you? Only God's Word and true and you have provided none. I know who I believe and follow and it is not you.

God's Sheep hear his Voice (the Word). Those who are not His Sheep do not hear
I can’t disprove a negative. The only proof I have is that you never post other verses from Hebrews except those 11. I’m sure at some point you’ve posted others, but it will be difficult to find any.
 
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