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Rawtheran

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Unfortunately, the UMC affiliate in Canada is "The United Church of Canada," which is more Unitarian than Methodist.


Praise God.


I'm looking into these at the moment and am glad to hear they're open to Charismatic expression.


Currently, I attend their affiliate "The Evangelical Missionary Church of Canada." I haven't noticed any Charismatic leanings. Also, I prefer a sacramental church.


Years ago, I used to attend a Charismatic Anglican church, which was a great combination. Things changed after the pastor quit.


I'm not familiar with these denominations.


I'm not familiar with this, either. Would you give me more info.


I don't like the idea of attending a non-denominational or an independent church.


Sacramental, Arminianist, non-dispensational.

Yeah here is a link to the Four Square website, they might have some churches near you.

https://www.foursquare.org/
 
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Yeah here is a link to the Four Square website, they might have some churches near you.
They're non-sacramental:

"9. Baptism and the Lord’s Supper
We believe that baptism by immersion is an outward sign of an inward work (Matthew 28:19; Romans 6:4). We believe in the commemoration of the Lord’s Supper by the symbolical use of bread and the fruit of the vine (1 Corinthians 11:24, 25)."
 
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Some of your more extreme denominations believe that if someone doesn't speak in tongues then they are not truly saved.
That is NOT Assembly of God. Never has been.
My in-laws of blessed memory were life long AoG members. And neither of them ever spoke in tongues.
 
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Sacramental, conservative, Arminianist, non-dispensational.

Not a common combination.

Sacramental Conservative non-Dispensational churches tend to be Calvinist (plus a handful of conservative Anglicans).

Conservative Arminianist churches tend to be Dispensational and non-Sacramental.
 
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Not a common combination. Sacramental Conservative non-Dispensational churches tend to be Calvinist (plus a handful of conservative Anglicans). Conservative Arminianist churches tend to be Dispensational and non-Sacramental.
No, it's not a common combination. I can only think of conservative Lutherans and Methodists. The tricky part is finding a charismatic congregation.
 
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That is NOT Assembly of God. Never has been.
My in-laws of blessed memory were life long AoG members. And neither of them ever spoke in tongues.
True its not, AOG seems to be a pretty good denomination. The above quote was mainly aimed at the Oneness Pentecostal churches
 
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No, it's not a common combination. I can only think of conservative Lutherans and Methodists. The tricky part is finding a charismatic congregation.
Sadly you are going to have to decide between one ideal over another because sacramental conservative churches tend to not be charismatic during their services and your purely charismatic churches tend to stay away from the liturgical style of worship because its too "religious"
 
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Sadly you are going to have to decide between one ideal over another because sacramental conservative churches tend to not be charismatic during their services
I don't know if I'm making an unnecessary big deal of the sacramental issue. I made a list of Lutheran and Methodist churches in my area and will be visiting them. You did say that Methodist churches are open to charismatic expression. Unfortunately, no UMC here.
 
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I don't know if I'm making an unnecessary big deal of the sacramental issue. I made a list of Lutheran and Methodist churches in my area and will be visiting them. You did say that Methodist churches are open to charismatic expression. Unfortunately, no UMC here.
Excellent! I hope that you are able to find a great Methodist church in your area. Also your not missing out on much on not having a UMC in your area. Let's just say the sun is starting to set on the UMC....
 
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The UMC at least at the Annual Conference level cares more about the Institution, numbers, and money more than what God wants or desires. Liberal Christianity and heretical teachings are also starting to creep their way into the denomination. One of the big ones is that Pastors should be allowed to marry gays/lesbians and that Pastors who openly live in sin by having same sex relationships can become ordained to preach the gospel. At General Conference this year the UMC voted to uphold traditional values but several Annual Conferences have pretty much given the middle finger to the ruling and continue to just do their own thing. The denomination will most likely split because of this.
 
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At General Conference this year the UMC voted to uphold traditional values
I thought that was good news.

but several Annual Conferences have pretty much given the middle finger to the ruling and continue to just do their own thing. The denomination will most likely split because of this.
This is sad but may be preferable to the take over that happened in some denominations..
 
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I thought that was good news.


This is sad but may be preferable to the take over that happened in some denominations..
Yeah man but hey I hope you find what your looking for in a church. God bless brother
 
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Actually the UMC and the United Church of Canada are not affiliated with each other. There were Methodist churches in that merger, but not United Methodists. Though we do have good relationships I’m sure with UCan.

By the way, the impression above that UM churches are open to charismatic or Pentecostal theology is largely by region. I’ve never seen anyone connected with the UMC in Iowa promote charismatic theology. It wouldn’t be against the Discipline. But our churches here are more similar to Presbyterian and Lutheran congregations than we are to Assemblies of God congregations for the most part.

Also most midwest UMC churches are not that liturgical for the most part.
 
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There were Methodist churches in that merger, but not United Methodists. Though we do have good relationships I’m sure with UCan. By the way, the impression above that UM churches are open to charismatic or Pentecostal theology is largely by region. I’ve never seen anyone connected with the UMC in Iowa promote charismatic theology. It wouldn’t be against the Discipline. But our churches here are more similar to Presbyterian and Lutheran congregations than we are to Assemblies of God congregations for the most part.
Thank you for helpful info.
 
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Yeah man but hey I hope you find what your looking for in a church. God bless brother
I attended service in a Free Methodist church. Excellent worship. Almost Charismatic. Thoughtful sermon. Friendly people. Can't wait to go there again.
 
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I attended service in a Free Methodist church. Excellent worship. Almost Charismatic. Thoughtful sermon. Friendly people. Can't wait to go there again.
I'm happy you had a great experience brother. If there was a Free Methodist Congregation near me I'd check it out but sadly it's all UMC. I love the UMC as a whole but not West Ohio congregations lol. Happy for you brother!
 
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That is NOT Assembly of God. Never has been.
My in-laws of blessed memory were life long AoG members. And neither of them ever spoke in tongues.

In the early days of the charismatic movement, there were some kids at our high school (I suspect they were connected with the local Oneness Pentecostal church) who were raising a ruckus with the claim that you had to speak in tongues or you weren't saved.
I posed the question to my grandfather, who was a retired A/G pastor. He sniffed, "That's silly. You have to be saved in the first place to RECEIVE the Baptism of the Holy Ghost."
 
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