WHY IS THERE SO MANY WARNINGS FROM GOD'S WORD ABOUT LOSING SALVATION IF IT IS NOT POSSIBLE??

LoveGodsWord · Jul 28, 2019

Hammster said:
That you believe that obedience is the result of obedience, not of Christ working in you.

Well that is not true I do not believe or have I ever said as such and if I do not believe what you have posted or have ever said such things why do you pretend that I have?

Hammster · Jul 28, 2019

LoveGodsWord said:
If you believe God's Word why do you not believe the scriptures that are provide and only sent in love as a help to you? The scriptures provided here in the OP are God's Word not mine and you do not believe them do you.

You do t provide God’s word. You post references without context and expect people to believe your understanding, which contradicts itself.

LoveGodsWord · Jul 28, 2019

Hammster said:
There you have it. Faith plus works.

So you do not believe we need to believe God's Word and follow it to be Christian *JOHN 8:31-36; JOHN 3:15-21; 1 JOHN 3:3-10?

Hammster · Jul 28, 2019

LoveGodsWord said:
Well that is not true I do not believe or have I ever said as such and if I do not believe what you have posted or have ever said such things why do you pretend that I have?

OBEDIENCE to God's LAW is not how we are saved it is the FRUIT of God's work in us as we BELIEVE and FOLLOW his WORD.

Those are YOUR words, not scripture. And you are saying that by being obedient (believe and follow His word) that you are given obedience.

Hammster · Jul 28, 2019

LoveGodsWord said:
So you do not believe we need to believe God's Word and follow it to be Christian *JOHN 8:31-36; JOHN 3:15-21; 1 JOHN 3:3-10?

Your question proves my point.

LoveGodsWord · Jul 28, 2019

Hammster said:
Your question proves my point.

Not really it proves mine. Read the scripture quoted. Do you believe them?

LoveGodsWord · Jul 28, 2019

Hammster said:
You do t provide God’s word. You post references without context and expect people to believe your understanding, which contradicts itself.

Well that is not true. Prove your claims and respond to post # 195 linked in relation to HEBREWS 6:4-8. If you cannot why do you not believe the scriptures quoted?

LoveGodsWord · Jul 28, 2019

Hammster said:
OBEDIENCE to God's LAW is not how we are saved it is the FRUIT of God's work in us as we BELIEVE and FOLLOW his WORD.

Those are YOUR words, not scripture. And you are saying that by being obedient (believe and follow His word) that you are given obedience.

Well that is not true. What does EPHESIANS 2:8-9; JAMES 2:18-20; 26; MATTHEW 7:24-27; JOHN 3:15-21; 1 JOHN 2:1-4; JOHN 10:27; JOHN 15:1-7 mean? They are God's Word not mine. Do you believe these scripture? They only support what was posted to you.

_Dave_ · Jul 28, 2019

_Dave_ said:
And while we're at it, if you have time, can you give us some of the things that are on the "not following God's word" list of things that will cause the axe to fall on a born-again, Bible-believing Christian who is indwelt with the Holy Spirit?

Maybe list 10 of them in order from the worst worst down to the least worst.

LoveGodsWord, can I assume you are working on this list for me? If not, why not? Inquiring minds want to know what to watch out for in order not to become the Unsaved.

Hammster · Jul 28, 2019

LoveGodsWord said:
Not really it proves mine. Read the scripture quoted. Do you believe them?

It proves that you believe that works are required to stay saved.

Hammster · Jul 28, 2019

LoveGodsWord said:
Well that is not true. Prove your claims and respond to post # 195 linked in relation to HEBREWS 6:4-8. If you cannot why do you not believe the scriptures quoted?

I’ve given multiple responses.

LoveGodsWord · Jul 28, 2019

Hammster said:
It proves that you believe that works are required to stay saved.

Hmm there you go repeating yourself and saying things no one has ever said or believes. Do you have anything to share in relation to the OP and the scriptures that have been shared with you? I guess not.

Hammster · Jul 28, 2019

Hammster said:
OBEDIENCE to God's LAW is not how we are saved it is the FRUIT of God's work in us as we BELIEVE and FOLLOW his WORD.

Those are YOUR words, not scripture. And you are saying that by being obedient (believe and follow His word) that you are given obedience.

LoveGodsWord said:
Well that is not true.

Then stop saying it.

LoveGodsWord · Jul 28, 2019

Hammster said:
Then stop saying it.

Stop saying what?

Hammster said:
I’ve given multiple responses.

If that were true you should be able to provide a link? If you cannot then why are you pretending you have already addressed this post?

Hammster · Jul 28, 2019

LoveGodsWord said:
Hmm there you go repeating yourself and saying things no one has ever said or believes. Do you have anything to share ni relation to the OP and the scriptures that have been shared with you? I guess not.

So works aren’t required? We aren’t required to FOLLOW God’s word to stay saved?

Good to know.

Hammster · Jul 28, 2019

LoveGodsWord said:
If that were true you should be able to provide a link? If you cannot then why are you pretending you have already addressed this post?

I don’t feel the need to jump through hoops to find the links.

LoveGodsWord · Jul 28, 2019

A PARABLE FOR ALL THOSE IN THE WAY

Some were told by the one who knows all things;

Hearing you shall hear, and shall not understand; and seeing you shall see, and not perceive: this was because those hearing made themselves a hardened heart that said "Lo this word is not for me who can hear it? I am rich and increased with goods and have need of nothing".

Travelling along the way those who would not hear fell into the ditch they call delusion that all fall into that kick against the pricks because they lost their mirror that shows the way when the path is dark and narrow.

Their lamp was a guide to them but they did not have enough oil. Their lamp then went out and now they sit in darkness falling into the ditch they cannot find their way out.

Some travellers in the way walked by and saw some of these sitting in darkeness who lost their way and offered them some oil for their lamps but they being proud would not accept the gift and did not want to receive any help choosing instead to make their home in the ditch which the Lord of the way gave them over to because they loved darkness rather then the light because their deeds were evil.

Tick tock goes the watch the time for grace is running out. Who will hear the call to go out and meet the brifegroom? Only those that have their lamps trimmed and full of oil and who have not lost their mirror that shows them the way when the road is dark and narrow.

God's Sheep hear his Voice (the Word of God)

LoveGodsWord · Jul 28, 2019

Hammster said:
I don’t feel the need to jump through hoops to find the links.

You do not have to if you do not want to. You made the claims that you cannot prove not me.

LoveGodsWord · Jul 28, 2019

Ok nice talking to you all, I have to go out now and do some work and will catch up latter. Everything shared with you all here is only sent in love.

Blessings :wave:

JIMINZ · Jul 28, 2019

LoveGodsWord said:
and our tree will be cast down and thrown into the fire *MATTHEW 3:10;

This is the direct reference to the Jews loosing the kingdom because of their disbelief that Jesus was the Messiah, as well as the Only begotten Son of God.

The Vesrse is, both time and case specific, the verse does not apply or denote anthing related to a Christians Salvation or his loosing of it.

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