What Will It Take To Finally Admit Something Is Wrong With Our Understanding of the Gospel?

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I'm just curious, what makes you think that society being given over to her delusions and perversions is something a believing Christian should prevent?

I mean, what if this is God's Will?
Well, a good place to start would be in one's own life, LOL.

Evil men will wax worse and worse, yes, but we as His church are to be the salt of the earth, and we have lost our savor. Big time.

Change is coming, but there will be a breaking and tears for many before that happens.

blessings,

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You raise a red flag because you don’t proclaim the gospel as the answer. Paul said that he determined to know nothing but Christ and Him crucified. Everything he preached and taught was done so through that lens. I encourage you to do the same.
The gospel we are proclaiming promises to set us free indeed. And if it is not, is the gospel flawed? Not at all. But something is amiss, for millions of those following the Lord are not free, nor joyful nor single eyed. Their shields of faith are not quenching satan's arrows. And when they fall into diverse temptations, they do not find that the Lord delivers them from evil.

Yes, He forgives, IF we sin. But is the Lord's hand not able to deliver the godly out of temptation? Is that not His promise to the weak? We have left the possibility of walking holy before the Lord as nothing but a goal we are to aim at, but never actually walk in.

He has promised to cause us to walk in obedience. Do you see that happening? If not, why not? It is an important question, but how few at present are there seeking the answer.

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Well, a good place to start would be in one's own life, LOL.

Evil men will wax worse and worse, yes, but we as His church are to be the salt of the earth, and we have lost our savor. Big time.

Change is coming, but there will be a breaking and tears for many before that happens.

blessings,

Gids

Well... exactly what are God's people not doing?

I mean.. you think you belong to God.. what are you doing wrong that is causing evil men?

I believe I am God's people - what am I doing to cause evil people to be evil?

What is it, exactly that makes us be causal to mankind acting according to its own nature?

And then, what will stopping doing that cause?
 
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The gospel we are proclaiming promises to set us free indeed. And if it is not, is the gospel flawed? Not at all. But something is amiss, for millions of those following the Lord are not free, nor joyful nor single eyed. Their shields of faith are not quenching satan's arrows. And when they fall into diverse temptations, they do not find that the Lord delivers them from evil.

Yes, He forgives, IF we sin. But is the Lord's hand not able to deliver the godly out of temptation? Is that not His promise to the weak? We have left the possibility of walking holy before the Lord as nothing but a goal we are to aim at, but never actually walk in.

He has promised to cause us to walk in obedience. Do you see that happening? If not, why not? It is an important question, but how few at present are there seeking the answer.

blessings,

Gids
How do you know it’s only a few? What power has God bestowed upon you to make that determination?
 
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Gideons300, you come very close to the truth but then turn to a moralistic line that will lead people to self-righteous, frustration and failure. The Christian life is entirely God's work. He is the One who draws us to Christ (John 6:44), and convicts us of sin (John 16:8), and illuminates our understanding to His truth (John 16:13); He is the one who imparts to us faith (Romans 12:3) and repentance (2 Timothy 2:25); He is the One who redeems, justifies, and sanctifies us (1 Corinthian 1:30); and He is the One who moves us on into a deeper, holier walk with Himself (Philippians 1:6; Philippians 2:13; 1 Thessalonians 5:23-24). When a Christian puts the onus for his success spiritually upon himself, he will quickly come to failure. God's way for His children to live in victory doesn't depend upon their resolve, their determination, their strength, but upon God bringing each of them to a place of surrender. It is only in going low before God in acknowledgement of one's profound weakness and waywardness, and submitting one's self in total, moment-by-moment dependence upon God that the Holy Spirit is free to work to transform one's desires, thinking and behaviour and conform one more and more to the Person of Christ. And so we read:

Romans 6:13
Romans 12:1
James 4:7-10
1 Peter 5:6

No man can bring himself to a place of true surrender, of submission, to God. It is only God at work in a person who can cause them to yield, to humble themselves under His mighty hand. And often He does this through long, patient demonstration to His child of their utter inability to be who wants them to be (Hebrews 12:5-11). God uses failure - repeated and sometimes very grave - to convince His children that they cannot live His life by moralistic, human means. Just as God had to make us able to choose salvation, He must also make us able to live in constant surrender to Himself and showing us just how incredibly weak we are is necessary to this end. Our spiritual transformation is a supernatural thing - not humans doing for God, but, from beginning to end, God doing for humans.
 
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How do you know it’s only a few? What power has God bestowed upon you to make that determination?
That is an easy game to get into to derail the post. If you do not agree, or want to take what is shared to heart, no problem. Simply move on. No biggie.

However, one question. When was the last time you heard someone in the world exclaim "Behold how they love one another!" Yeah, me either.

But you know what is coning? We are going to hear a new one. "Look! That which bore only weeds and thistles has become again like the garden of Eden!"

That is found in Ezekiel 36, where God had just stated that the heathen will know that He is the Lord, when He shall be sanctified IN US before their very eyes.

And that is right after He says to His own that we have blasphemed His holy name wherever we have gone. Ouch. Whwn will we learn that Christianity is not a religion, nor just a skeleton of true but lifeless bones of doctrines, but a living relationship with Christ living and growing inside us, causing us ..... yes, that is found in Ezekiel 36 too.... yes, causing us to walk as obedient children.

We can prepare our hearts now, or risk having our hearts hardened even more. Our choice. Either way, that day is coming.

blessings,

Gids
 
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What Will It Take To Finally Admit Something Is Wrong With Our Understanding of the Gospel?

Nothing is wrong with a Biblical understanding of the Gospel.

If you are concerned that your understanding is wrong (I assume that's what "our" means), read the Bible!
 
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That is an easy game to get into to derail the post. If you do not agree, or want to take what is shared to heart, no problem. Simply move on. No biggie.

However, one question. When was the last time you heard someone in the world exclaim "Behold how they love one another!" Yeah, me either.

But you know what is coning? We are going to hear a new one. "Look! That which bore only weeds and thistles has become again like the garden of Eden!"

That is found in Ezekiel 36, where God had just stated that the heathen will know that He is the Lord, when He shall be sanctified IN US before their very eyes.

And that is right after He says to His own that we have blasphemed His holy name wherever we have gone. Ouch. Whwn will we learn that Christianity is not a religion, nor just a skeleton of true but lifeless bones of doctrines, but a living relationship with Christ living and growing inside us, causing us ..... yes, that is found in Ezekiel 36 too.... yes, causing us to walk as obedient children.

We can prepare our hearts now, or risk having our hearts hardened even more. Our choice. Either way, that day is coming.

blessings,

Gids
We have the gospel. Those of us that believe the gospel will not have our hearts hardened any more than Christ’s heart will be hardened. We are in Christ. If you believe the gospel you are free from work. You don’t need to try. You don’t need to strive. So I’m not going to burden God’s people where He doesn’t burden them.
 
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Gideons300, you come very close to the truth but then turn to a moralistic line that will lead people to self-righteous, frustration and failure. The Christian life is entirely God's work. He is the One who draws us to Christ (John 6:44), and convicts us of sin (John 16:8), and illuminates our understanding to His truth (John 16:13); He is the one who imparts to us faith (Romans 12:3) and repentance (2 Timothy 2:25); He is the One who redeems, justifies, and sanctifies us (1 Corinthian 1:30); and He is the One who moves us on into a deeper, holier walk with Himself (Philippians 1:6; Philippians 2:13; 1 Thessalonians 5:23-24). When a Christian puts the onus for his success spiritually upon himself, he will quickly come to failure. God's way for His children to live in victory doesn't depend upon their resolve, their determination, their strength, but upon God bringing each of them to a place of surrender. It is only in going low before God in acknowledgement of one's profound weakness and waywardness, and submitting one's self in total, moment-by-moment dependence upon God that the Holy Spirit is free to work to transform one's desires, thinking and behaviour and conform one more and more to the Person of Christ. And so we read:

Romans 6:13
Romans 12:1
James 4:7-10
1 Peter 5:6

No man can bring himself to a place of true surrender, of submission, to God. It is only God at work in a person who can cause them to yield, to humble themselves under His mighty hand. And often He does this through long, patient demonstration to His child of their utter inability to be who wants them to be (Hebrews 12:5-11). God uses failure - repeated and sometimes very grave - to convince His children that they cannot live His life by moralistic, human means. Just as God had to make us able to choose salvation, He must also make us able to live in constant surrender to Himself and showing us just how incredibly weak we are is necessary to this end. Our spiritual transformation is a supernatural thing - not humans doing for God, but, from beginning to end, God doing for humans.
I think you are missing a key part of the message God gave me to share.

We cannot do it.... CANNOT. We cannot fully obey. Nor fully keep self under control. We cannot stop sinning, nor be holy. We cannot escape our lack of passion for God, nor can we love God with all of our hearts.

BUT, for most, it is giving our best efforts to do so, and failing.... again and again... that teaches us the lesson we need so desperately need to learn. What is inpossible with man is possible with God.

Yes, we need to try to walk pleasing to Him! Loving sacrifices is the height of the bar He has set for us, amen? Paul said "You have not yet resisted unto blood, striving against sin".

Why is this important? Because it is in this process we are brought to our crisis point, where we finally are broken of ALL self-confidence. It is only when we come to Him with NO strength that we are prepared to do the one thing He has asked us to do.... step out and believe our God. His promises were meant to be believed, and they work! But we cannot fully believe in Him as long as we still believe in us, lol.

I am sharing neither grace that allows sin to reside within us, nor am I sharing legalism, which is basically telling saints to "do better, try harder, bear more fruit, stop loving the world, stop being lukewarm. OBEY!"

But until we get it that God does indeed expect obedience, does want us to walk before Him in holiness and righteousness all the days of our lives, we all seem to drift into one of those two avenues. One, a false grace that does not teach us to deny unrighteousness, leads to Laodecia. The other, legalism, leads to a new breed of Pharisees. Neither leads to life, and thus abiding in Him becomes nothing more than a religious phrase.

Lying in between those two, however, is the sliver of light called FREE INDEED, where we, by faith, put off our old nature, reckoning that that person is not us anymore. Oh, it WAS us, in spades. ☺️ But that person died when Christ died, amen? Instead, we put on our brand new nature, believing that it is no more us that live, but Christ who lives in us, and through us. Why? Because when Christ rose from the dead, so DID we. Glory!

It is there that we discover our shield of faith actually works, and when satan comes tempting, as he most surely will, we are armed with the truth that we have been delivered from not just the penalty of darkness but the very power of it. Truth is our weapon. Satan has no answer for it.

How can this be? Well, the strength of sin is the law, amen? And the law has authority over us as long as we live, right? Ahhhh, but what if we, our old fallen nature, is truly dead? Has the light bulb flashed on in our heads? LOL. If we are truly dead, that means that the law has no authority over us, and therefore sin has no power or control over us. Whoa.

Now, can we fall here? Indeed yes. This is not sinless perfectionism I share. It is a walk, abiding in Him with His words, His promises to us abiding in us, and as we walk on this amazing highway of holiness (not the highway TO it!) we discover that God actually begins to transform our outer self and fruits begin to grow on us. But until we fully believe that, deep in our core, we ARE new creatures, we end up trying to still 'be good', outside to inside, and it simply does not work.

So yes, even after we have taken our stand of faith and reckoned that the old us is indeed DEAD, we can still slip, because our faith may be still small and wavering. It is here we begin our good fight of faith, growing in that faith, to the point we are rooted and grounded in the truth of who we really are... overcomers, victorious over the world, the flesh and the devil! And when we become fully 'established in the truth'? Watch out satan. Nothing is more attractive than joy-filled, victorious saint who knows it is no longer him keeping and changing himself, but God doing the work.

So if we slip, (IF, not when!), we repent of the sin and immediately confess the truth again of who we are on the INSIDE. Our shield of faith stays up. and to our joy and amazement, our faith grows and His nature inside us continues to grow towards the surface.

I pray this helps with your misunderstanding.

Many blessings,

Gideon
 
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We have the gospel. Those of us that believe the gospel will not have our hearts hardened any more than Christ’s heart will be hardened. We are in Christ. If you believe the gospel you are free from work. You don’t need to try. You don’t need to strive. So I’m not going to burden God’s people where He doesn’t burden them.
Brother, the gospel works. Truth sets free indeed. If we are not walking in freedom, let's not fool ourselves but actually examine why it is not doing what we have been promised.

There is an answer, a glorious one, but until we cry out for it, admitting we need more than nice Sunday services, and cry out as wretched men who are tired of walking in disobedience, tired of bringing dishonor to God, we will continue to run religious laps in the wilderness of unbelief.

God is even now awakening us to the land of promise we have for so long assumed was just a goal to shoot for. We are being asked to awake to righteousness and sin not.

And this decision to do so will bring us to our crisis point, where we, by faith, will finally come into agreement with our God, confessing that the old us is dead and that it is no more us but Christ who now lives in us.

God has spoken and told us that in the last days, His saints will overcome, not simply be perpetually forgiven for being overcome. And how will this miracle take place? We will combine the precious blood of the lamb with..... ready? ..... the words of OUR testimony! Glory!

blessings,

Gids
 
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I'm just curious, what makes you think that society being given over to her delusions and perversions is something a believing Christian should prevent?

I mean, what if this is God's Will?
Who is her ?
 
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The Laodecian church was told that they made God sick. That unless they repented, He would spew them out of His mouth. Why? Because they were lukewarm to Him and worse yet, were content that way.

That is the house on fire... our house. And how do we react when we hear such words? We get defensive, and angry, and argue that because of our deep understanding of grace, we have need of nothing.That sounds strangely familiar, which riles us up even more.

Can you now see how a house on fire fits?

blessings,

Gids
It's ok..I understand. And I have to kinda agree with gideon, the law was probably done away with but you have to remember Jesus never really took the laws away he only summed them up into one when he gave us the greatest commandment and the second one which is like it. Yes he tells us to love one another but love does our neighbor no harm... :-/ and we are only truly forgiven and made right in Jesus. His righteousness he puts on us is what make us right. To say we don't have to be perfect only means we don't want to be perfect, or just an excuse not to be perfect but Jesus says we should be perfect like God his father. Because God is perfect. And the only way to be perfect is to abide in Jesus and be made right in him and the holy spirit. Jesus doesn't just come make his home with us, he cleans out our rooms and closets also..and no one who comes to Christ is perfect already for him having to go to Christ why would he think himself )to be perfect and don't need correction or to be discipline and trained by Jesus to be made right in the righteousness he dresses us in?....without Jesus we can't do nothing ..and defintely not fully over a law. Paul was weak and Jesus comfort him and told him to be of good cheer...so imagine a person without abiding in Jesus trying to follow a law.... Besides doesn't scripture say "I can do all things through Christ who strengthens me"....And Jesus is born of spirit and water, so in the holy spirit we can overcome and with the water Jesus said he gives us, we shall never thirst cause the water is spirit and the spirit, his spirit gives us life ...so don't say we can't be perfect cause I know with Jesus we can overcome because he overcame and with the power of God, holy spirit he gives us and the fruits thereof it, we can overcome...he tells us to love but what good is love if we only love those who love us and most of the world is like that, it chooses it's own..
 
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I agree that we are not meant to dwell for long in Romans 7, but proceed in victory to Romans 8... I struggle still, though, and do not know how to enter into what God promised. Is it lack of faith? Is it just plain apathy? I just don't know...



Hi Food4thought and every believer of Jesus Christ,

Excuse my grammar, punctuation's, sentences, commas and focus on the message because the enemy will do all it takes to distract you or find, “The Lost Message to the Churches” with is The Word of Life”

Everyone is seeking the truth and I have been led to you if it helps others also. The church makes the Lord look so bad and yet He's resurrected and many don’t know what follows after that. You sit in church for years and you have nothing to show for. If you are a Christian ask yourself the following questions; Do i believe in the bible, Yes and Believe in Jesus, Yes and His promises, Yes then He also said we will do the things He Jesus did and more right? yes, He walked on water, He stopped the wind, yes, raised the dead, yes....how many of these can you do? You realized you should be worried at these points if not then let me continue, these signs shall follow them that believe.... raise the dead...cast out demons, etc....look repent means renew your mind. it doesn't mean stop sinning. Sin is a deception because you just said you believe in Jesus and all He said and also died for your sins. Let me break it down. It's easy to believe one man made you a sinner before you were born but difficult to comprehend that after that another came to die for you also before you were born. So then how can sin be? So, what is the problem my brethren. It's the beginning of the walk with God that is the KEY. Hence the reason why he died for you but left that for you to do due to "Free will" you keep telling the other religions. Change your mind because cross over from the knowledge of good and evil to the word of life is like day and night. But when you do, Lord Jesus...I leave it there. The church is stuck at the death celebrating ignorance here and there. In the beginning God created the Heavens and the Earth....The earth was without form....and then where is the heavens story? Did you ever wonder what goes on in the Heavens? Lack of knowledge my people perish. These are the things you must learn after you accept Christ and is unto perfection. The flesh you bore is weak and you can only fight it with your spirit. Nothing else can and I tell you to God the truth, NOTHING. So, you come to God as you are and learn to perfect your spirit with the word of life and then it stairs your spirit because the word now has quickened your spirit for holy spirit to relate to you. Did you know that.? So, don’t try to start changing for God when you don’t personally know the dream of God for you. This is why Man in general not just Christians because most people know not the truth or think they do but might not be able to break it down. what is the truth? Jesus is the truth. So, you must get to know who Jesus is. How do you know who Jesus is? Jesus doesn't accuse. Satan is the accuser of the brethren. Jesus who is God moves with the "Word of Life". Satan the devil moves with "the knowledge of good and evil" aka the apple in the garden of Eden. My brothers and Sisters, if I gave you the word of life and you have the right Spirit, you can't fight it because The Word of God is alive and the bible says it's sharper than any two-edged sword. Don’t take it face value. Can you operate on a rat? We are talking about His Word (Which is spirit and is so sharp it's the sharpest device ever and can also divide souls). First who knows how a soul looks like? left alone where to find it and divide it, and with which particular words or how? That spirit inside you that belongs to God needs it to come to life but you don't have it in the church so here you are waiting to be fed in other to activate and yet the truth is hidden in plane site. The message in churches helps the flesh to survive this world…period. After you retire this outfit (Flesh, body…etc.), what’s next? The spirit reality which you never exercised after the acceptance of Christ. The only one who probably did besides you were your pastors. Like Moses and the Israelites…They were all supposed to go see God face on the mountain rather, they ask Moses to go and come back telling them what God said. That is why they all died before they could see the promise land. The congregation today waits for Pastors to go before God and bring answers to them every Sunday. What changed from bondage time to that of today’s salvation freedom? The source of a plant or tree is the soil and it will die if you uproot it. Whether one likes it or not, being it an A-Lister from Hollywood or a poor villager from my Country Ghana, West Africa, our source is God because He made us in His image after His likeness. The first ingredient in the Making of Man is His own spirit that dwells in us hence, I knew you before you were conceived. The true Word of Life (God) it will stair your spirits up...it is what True (truth (Jesus) the word of God does so don't be alarmed thinking your Pastor lied to you. Nope, He didn't. He either went to a seminary school and preaching out of ignorance or he truly has the Holy Ghost but having the Holy Ghost also doesn't give you a Mandate to start a church and if you have a mandate and you truly have to preach “The Word of Life” according to His will, you will have only the poor and homeless and broken and the deserted come to your church because Christians take the content of the bible for face value. If the Holy Spirit doesn’t show you what’s in the bible, you won’t understand. I won't get into that now. Salvation and Acceptance of Christ and receiving the Holy Spirit is for everyone including the Hindu’s or Muslim’s or Atheists. My next post will show you how to many things mentioned. Please get a bible before reading my next post. Revelations will be flying at you and anytime anything makes so much sense and you can’t even sit down with excitement etc., your spirit is been activated with the source and receiving. Now so many things will start making sense to you when you pick up the bible. The content is for the flesh when you read it with your mind but after you’re activated, it will sound like my next post because then it’s Holy Spirit teaching you just like he does with the rest of His Children. That is what we really mean by your lights have come on. You’re on your way to perfection because the perfection is for the spirit man not the flesh. Give yourself the last break before you miss the chance of ruling in the Kingdom with Christ. Forget everything you thought you knew…This is a gift and it’s priceless. Before anyone put on their PhD garment ready for argument…Give me a chance to prove to you that the message I carry is the truth and it will set you free. Thanks for your time, patients and understanding. I love you with the love of Christ. On behalf of the Family of God here on earth, I say Sorry for all who misrepresent our Master and Lord Jesus Christ. Wherever you are, I dispatch ministry angels to you. May you be a testimony to the world about the truth. May the Grace from the Father rest upon you and your family and even by the Power of the Holy Spirit to Manifest His glory by revealing to you that which exist beyond human understanding in the Mighty Name of The Lord Jesus Christ, Amen.
 
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Hi Food4thought and every believer of Jesus Christ,

Excuse my grammar, punctuation's, sentences, commas and focus on the message because the enemy will do all it takes to distract you or find, “The Lost Message to the Churches” with is The Word of Life”

Everyone is seeking the truth and I have been led to you if it helps others also. The church makes the Lord look so bad and yet He's resurrected and many don’t know what follows after that. You sit in church for years and you have nothing to show for. If you are a Christian ask yourself the following questions; Do i believe in the bible, Yes and Believe in Jesus, Yes and His promises, Yes then He also said we will do the things He Jesus did and more right? yes, He walked on water, He stopped the wind, yes, raised the dead, yes....how many of these can you do? You realized you should be worried at these points if not then let me continue, these signs shall follow them that believe.... raise the dead...cast out demons, etc....look repent means renew your mind. it doesn't mean stop sinning. Sin is a deception because you just said you believe in Jesus and all He said and also died for your sins. Let me break it down. It's easy to believe one man made you a sinner before you were born but difficult to comprehend that after that another came to die for you also before you were born. So then how can sin be? So, what is the problem my brethren. It's the beginning of the walk with God that is the KEY. Hence the reason why he died for you but left that for you to do due to "Free will" you keep telling the other religions. Change your mind because cross over from the knowledge of good and evil to the word of life is like day and night. But when you do, Lord Jesus...I leave it there. The church is stuck at the death celebrating ignorance here and there. In the beginning God created the Heavens and the Earth....The earth was without form....and then where is the heavens story? Did you ever wonder what goes on in the Heavens? Lack of knowledge my people perish. These are the things you must learn after you accept Christ and is unto perfection. The flesh you bore is weak and you can only fight it with your spirit. Nothing else can and I tell you to God the truth, NOTHING. So, you come to God as you are and learn to perfect your spirit with the word of life and then it stairs your spirit because the word now has quickened your spirit for holy spirit to relate to you. Did you know that.? So, don’t try to start changing for God when you don’t personally know the dream of God for you. This is why Man in general not just Christians because most people know not the truth or think they do but might not be able to break it down. what is the truth? Jesus is the truth. So, you must get to know who Jesus is. How do you know who Jesus is? Jesus doesn't accuse. Satan is the accuser of the brethren. Jesus who is God moves with the "Word of Life". Satan the devil moves with "the knowledge of good and evil" aka the apple in the garden of Eden. My brothers and Sisters, if I gave you the word of life and you have the right Spirit, you can't fight it because The Word of God is alive and the bible says it's sharper than any two-edged sword. Don’t take it face value. Can you operate on a rat? We are talking about His Word (Which is spirit and is so sharp it's the sharpest device ever and can also divide souls). First who knows how a soul looks like? left alone where to find it and divide it, and with which particular words or how? That spirit inside you that belongs to God needs it to come to life but you don't have it in the church so here you are waiting to be fed in other to activate and yet the truth is hidden in plane site. The message in churches helps the flesh to survive this world…period. After you retire this outfit (Flesh, body…etc.), what’s next? The spirit reality which you never exercised after the acceptance of Christ. The only one who probably did besides you were your pastors. Like Moses and the Israelites…They were all supposed to go see God face on the mountain rather, they ask Moses to go and come back telling them what God said. That is why they all died before they could see the promise land. The congregation today waits for Pastors to go before God and bring answers to them every Sunday. What changed from bondage time to that of today’s salvation freedom? The source of a plant or tree is the soil and it will die if you uproot it. Whether one likes it or not, being it an A-Lister from Hollywood or a poor villager from my Country Ghana, West Africa, our source is God because He made us in His image after His likeness. The first ingredient in the Making of Man is His own spirit that dwells in us hence, I knew you before you were conceived. The true Word of Life (God) it will stair your spirits up...it is what True (truth (Jesus) the word of God does so don't be alarmed thinking your Pastor lied to you. Nope, He didn't. He either went to a seminary school and preaching out of ignorance or he truly has the Holy Ghost but having the Holy Ghost also doesn't give you a Mandate to start a church and if you have a mandate and you truly have to preach “The Word of Life” according to His will, you will have only the poor and homeless and broken and the deserted come to your church because Christians take the content of the bible for face value. If the Holy Spirit doesn’t show you what’s in the bible, you won’t understand. I won't get into that now. Salvation and Acceptance of Christ and receiving the Holy Spirit is for everyone including the Hindu’s or Muslim’s or Atheists. My next post will show you how to many things mentioned. Please get a bible before reading my next post. Revelations will be flying at you and anytime anything makes so much sense and you can’t even sit down with excitement etc., your spirit is been activated with the source and receiving. Now so many things will start making sense to you when you pick up the bible. The content is for the flesh when you read it with your mind but after you’re activated, it will sound like my next post because then it’s Holy Spirit teaching you just like he does with the rest of His Children. That is what we really mean by your lights have come on. You’re on your way to perfection because the perfection is for the spirit man not the flesh. Give yourself the last break before you miss the chance of ruling in the Kingdom with Christ. Forget everything you thought you knew…This is a gift and it’s priceless. Before anyone put on their PhD garment ready for argument…Give me a chance to prove to you that the message I carry is the truth and it will set you free. Thanks for your time, patients and understanding. I love you with the love of Christ. On behalf of the Family of God here on earth, I say Sorry for all who misrepresent our Master and Lord Jesus Christ. Wherever you are, I dispatch ministry angels to you. May you be a testimony to the world about the truth. May the Grace from the Father rest upon you and your family and even by the Power of the Holy Spirit to Manifest His glory by revealing to you that which exist beyond human understanding in the Mighty Name of The Lord Jesus Christ, Amen.

Welcome to the forums. Nice post.

My suggestion to you, my friend, is to start your own thread and link to it on here. I am sure that would be the best thing to do?

God bless you
 
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Can you write, 4 points, 1 line each, of the message you are trying to get across?

No lengthy paragraphs. Just:

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  1. ....After being save, the next thing is to repent (to renew your mind)
  2. ....Then you perfect your spirit with the word of life
  3. ....Then you get to know God personally
  4. ....and Manifest his glory but there are more and better to these, lol living the kingdom life where EVERYTHING is open book for you as you move with Him...
 
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After reading again.. not sure this was posted to even discuss. What got my eye "If you do not agree, or want to take what is shared to heart, no problem. Simply move on. No biggie."

God will always back up what He says with His word. So we know its Him. Fear is not of God and He will never use it in any way. We always need someone over us or we can get deceived. For where 2 or three are He IS there. Paul struggled with sin yes but it never ruled him. I can't find that in the word :) Christ took something and gave something back. What do you walk in.. the old man or new? Once we were slaves to it but no more. As our Brother said.. no more me.. its the sin that is is in me. And there is so much more Paul said and one was meat. Not once was it posted. As another brother said .. of which I agree with.. a red flag is when "WE" "OUR".

We that know Christ are one in the spirit. One with the Father and Christ. This is for all in Christ "As for you, the anointing you received from him remains in you, and you do not need anyone to teach you. But as his anointing teaches you about all things and as that anointing is real, not counterfeit-just as it has taught you, remain in him.". Forgive me please :) when I read from anyone "God told me". I look for the word.. the peace. Bless you.
 
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What will it take? An economic meltdown? A World war? Anarchy in the streets? Empty grocery shelves? Th stock market falling into a death spiral? How badly does the foundation under our feet have to be shaken to cry out to Him with ALL of our hearts to save us from sin, from self, from the pull of the world, from the wiles and accusations and temptations of the devil?

We Christians are for the most part “good people”. What is wrong with that, you ask? Well, we were never called to be good. We were called to be holy. And not only are we not walking in holiness, as living sacrifices, we are not really bothered that we are not. Truth? You bet.

Do we not see? The promises of God are meant to be our stepping stones to abiding in the vine, where we walk pleasing to Him, where we ask whatsoever we will and it will be done for us, where we do not fulfill the lusts of the flesh.

But instead of crying out for God to do as He has assured us He will do, we have set ourselves under preachers and teachers assuring us all is wonderful, and rallied around our mantras of unbelief and logic, our human wisdom. What mantras? Here’s two. We have espoused our excuses that no one is perfect and that we are only human, and with one fell swoop, we have gutted the promises of God to fill us, change us, set us free indeed and to plant our feet on the highway of holiness, making us victorious over the world, the flesh and the devil. Welcome to modern day Christianity, possessing the basics of truth in our doctrines but lacking life overflowing.

And you know what? Actually, our mantras are right. We aren’t perfect. And yes, we are only human. We do still reside in bodies of flesh. So where have we erred? We have rested content in our prison cells of self, and quoted Romans 7 as our scriptural backing to excuse the one attribute that Paul did not possess in his battle with the flesh. Contentment to remain there.

Listen. Paul HATED his old carnal nature. He did not use it as an excuse to continue to sin every now and then. He did not rest short of what God had promised him.... free indeed. No, guys, he bemoaned the fact that his sins still ruled him. He longed to please God in everything he did and the fact that he could not left him in a dark place as he tried to defeat the sins that defined him. .

In fact, his struggle against the self-loving old carnal nature brought him to the point he despaired of life itself. He saw himself as a wretched man, declared innocent but still incarcerated, a prisoner to a fallen lower nature that refused to climb down off the throne of his life. He did not rejoice that grace allowed this. He wailed that for some reason, he failed to apprehend what the grace of God promised Him.... a brand new nature that not only wanted to obey, but actually DID obey!

How few there are in these ever darkening last days who are walking in real victory. How rare it is to find souls hungry for the secret of abiding in Jesus, in real victory, and for the love of God to actually flow through them. We are told that contentment with godliness is great gain. We have settled for modest gain and contentment, but without that pesky, elusive, impossible-to-actually-walk-in godliness.

And of all our sins, it is this contentment in our fleshly religious efforts and constant failings that has kept us from the answer we so desperately need. We have made our Christianity a huge machine that cannot have its course corrected because we have refused to heed all the warnings and exhortations God has given us. It has taken on a life of itself and if a major course correction is not taken soon, our end will not be a pretty one.

Do we not see? We are the people spoken of who are healed ‘only slightly’, saying ‘peace, peace’, when there is no peace. We are the ones spoken of in the last days heaping to ourselves teachers that will tickle our itching ears. We are the ones having a form of godliness, but with our lives denying the power of it. We are those who have turned the grace of God into lasciviousness, a license to sin with no fear. Oh, we may not be bold enough (yet) to say that out loud, but the thought has been planted and taken root in the hearts of millions, and with no way to get rid of the weeds, it is going to take a moldbore plow to break up our fallow ground. Delicate weeding will no longer cut it.

We are told that in the last days, men are going to love their own selves MORE than they love God. Their true treasure will be self, pleasure, security, and not God alone. Can we shake ourselves enough to awaken from our religious stupor? I pray so. But know this, if we will not do it willingly, God will do it for us for everything that can be shaken will be. Everything holding us back from absolute surrender and total faith in him to keep us, to change us, to free us from US will be shaken out of our lives.

Do you doubt that the God that loves us would do such a thing? Do not. It is because He loves us so that He will do so. The hour is late. The darkness approaches..... fast. Our doctrines or our error in our doctrines is not the issue and getting them corrected will do nothing to protect us from the coming whirlwind. You see, the problem lies in the condition of our hearts, because our continued sins have allowed a hardness to cover them.

There is an answer to our dilemma. Paul found it. Why? Because he sought it with ALL of his heart. He sowed in tears. And so he reaped in joy, just as God has promised him... and us. Blessed is the one who does not need an economic collapse or roving armed gangs in the streets before he or she turns to the Lord and cries out for God to do what He has so very clearly promised. And what is that? To set us free indeed!

Perilous times are ahead. We can continue to be religious ostriches, burying our heads in the sand, thinking that bing part of the TRUE church or denomination and having our doctrines all neatly sorted out will somehow make us impervious to falling. How we hope that all will continue as it always has, as we enjoy our Sunday services and then return to OUR lives. But it shall not be.

It is that ‘OUR lives’ part that is the problem. We are not our own any longer. We have been bought out of the hand of the devil by the precious blood of the Lord Jesus, to let Him live and love through us. He wants to be the potter of our lives. He wants to fill us with fruits of His own nature. He wants to cause us to obey Him, and smile doing it.

impossible you say? Well, get ready for impossible, ‘cause ready or not, here it comes. We are about to be amazed.... or terrified. It all depends upon who we want to own us and rule over us..... US or HIM in us.

Blessings,

Gideon
Walk in the Spirit and you will not fulfill the flesh.
Blessings
 
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  1. ....After being save, the next thing is to repent (to renew your mind)
  2. ....Then you perfect your spirit with the word of life
  3. ....Then you get to know God personally
  4. ....and Manifest his glory but there are more and better to these, lol living the kingdom life where EVERYTHING is open book for you as you move with Him...

Thank you for your input. But, i wanted to see what Gideons300 would list.
 
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