How do you feel about tithing?

ilovejcsog said:

Only Steve would take advantage of your good will. He has no humble.

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Lets pray for him.

ilovejcsog said:

I do already but two more won't hurt him, lol.
I am still working on being a good shepherd with Gods money and patience with Steve and a lot of other things.

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There was a old woman who had no one and no body, she loved her church and her church was rich, she was poor.

But, the rich church keep asking its people for money.

One day this woman went to church because that's all the poor lady had.

She gave her last penny to the church knowing it was rich and knowing the church did not need it.

Why did she give her last penny?

She loved the church and did not love the penny.

I think tithing is fine as a personal choice, but it should not be done reluctantly or under compulsion.

Yeshua watched the offering plate and noticed who gave and how much. Then He remarked "For they all put in from their abundance, but she from her need has put in everything she had - all she had to live on.” (Mark 12:44). Seems like Yeshua would have taken the opportunity to tell His disciples that soon tithes/offerings/giving wouldnt need be given if that was going to be the case. Or do we think He let the poor widow put in everything she had without blessing her as promised in Mal 3:10

We give and then He blesses us what we have left.

I dont know of any area of our lives that Yahweh doesn"t want us to be surrendered to Him. A cheerful giver reflects a submitted attitude.

nanookadenord said:

Voted don't believe in tithing because I don't.

No where in the NT does it say that tithing is a requirement for Christians.

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Agreed.

There have been threads on this subject before, and sometimes people have said that they tithe because it is in the OT; iow, it is Scriptural.
Sorry, but I have never met, or read of, anyone who tithes as described in the OT.
The OT tithe was food - always food. They were to take 10% of their crops to the temple and then eat them to celebrate God's goodness to them - not forgetting the priests, who didn't have allotments, and the poor. The ONLY time the tithe involved money was if God had blessed them so much that 10% of their crops was too heavy to carry. THEN they were to sell that 10%, take the money to the temple to buy food and sit down to eat.
So if someone insists on tithing, as in the OT, that is what should happen. Buy an allotment, take 10% of your potatoes, cucumbers, beans etc to church one morning, make a stew/salad/stir fry and eat it after, or during, the service. OR, sell 10% of your crops, stop at the supermarket on the way to church, spend the money you got from your crops and make a meal with what you bought.

Giving 10% of your wages to the church is allowed - it's your money.
Insisting, or a Pastor insisting, that a Christian HAS to give 10% of their earnings to the church because tithing is Scriptural; is incorrect.
The OT tithe was food.
The NT teaching on money is; do not let it become your master, put God first, if money is an idol, give it up. The early church gave, and shared, everything.

topher694 said:

*sigh* alright

Matthew 22:21 - And He said to them, “Render therefore to Caesar the things that are Caesar’s, and to God the things that are God’s.”

What is Jesus talking about? Money.

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He's not teaching tithing.
OT tithing was not money.

topher694 said:

Who is he talking to? Pharisees.

What would they (and everyone else) have understood giving to God "the things that are God's"? The tithe.

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They, and almost everyone around them, were under OT law so of course they tithed. But you've just stated that Jesus was talking about money, and the OT tithe was never money.

This verse doesn't teach tithing - unless you read into it and give it an application that Jesus didn't.

Sabertooth said:

That was a currency of the day.

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Not exactly.
If 10% of their crops was too heavy for them to carry to the temple, they were to sell them, take the money to Jerusalem and buy food when they got closer to the temple. Then they were to eat the 10% that they had given. Not sell it and put the money in the temple treasury; eat - to celebrate God's provision and goodness.

When was the last time anyone took 10% of their wages to church and used it to buy a Sunday roast for the whole congregation? Or said to the Minister, "I was going to give the church £50 today; I've used it to but cakes for everyone instead"?

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How's not tithing working out for you guys?

It sounds to me that you really can't afford NOT to tithe.

"Test Me in this, says the Lord of Hosts. See if I will not open the floodgates of heaven and pour out for you a blessing without measure." Malachi 3:10

"Give, and it will be given to you. Good measure, pressed down, shaken together, running over, will be put into your lap. For with the measure you use it will be measured back to you.” Luke 6:38

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That sounds more like bargaining with God - "I'm going to tithe because I don't have much money and I want you to give me more; so if I give to you, you will give to me".

Do those of you who tithe to your church also donate to other charities or does the tithe tap you out?

When I add up all our charitable giving it is respectfully generous, and we also help several family members who are in need--one with a severely disabled child, one who is elderly and disabled, and, to a lesser degree, others.

I think having a generous spirit is more of an attitude than a number.

Dave-W said:

I tithe 10% of gross...

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Is that a standard among Messianics, or do some go with net?

Sabertooth said:

Is that a standard among Messianics, or do some go with net?

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LOL!!!

A Standard - among Messianics?? Does such a thing exist?

Some go with net, some do not go at all. We are all over the board.

ChristianForCats said:

What is your point?

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Those were most likely the factors that drove your comment.

ilovejcsog said:

That's not funny what you said about cat people. Take it back.

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Meow.

This option was not on the poll.

I tend to look at tithing as connected to a storehouse that can be used to support the priests and also those in need. I see tithes being collected but no storehouse, see my logical issue?

So Offerings makes more sense.

If you want to promote tithing, there needs to be a storehouse, benevolent is usually a separate offering category.