Is it a sin to befriend a gay person?

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Yes, they sin just like you and I do.

Did they repent from homosexuality? Do you support the idea that one can practice homosexual and be Christian at the same time? Humm? Will you allow them who refuse to recognize their sin or repent from it to take communion with us in our church?

That is an abomination!
 
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I don't understand some Christians. They sit there and say that we are not to die for unbelievers, but we started out unrighteous, ungodly, and worthy of death. Paul said he was willing to be cutoff from God's holy people if it would save his own people.

So, I am confused. I want to be a follower of Christ, but I am counting the cost. Not only are we to give up our life for God but we are to give up our life for people, unbelievers and believers. The Bible says so.

Jesus did. And he even said Father forgive them for they know not what they do.
 
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I don't understand some Christians. They sit there and say that we are not to die for unbelievers, but we started out unrighteous, ungodly, and worthy of death. Paul said he was willing to be cutoff from God's holy people if it would save his own people.

So, I am confused. I want to be a follower of Christ, but I am counting the cost. Not only are we to give up our life for God but we are to give up our life for people, unbelievers and believers. The Bible says so.

Jesus did. And he even said Father forgive them for they know not what they do.
Do as Jesus did and you'll do well.
 
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Therefore we can be friends with them?
No.
So we can’t be friends with sinners. Is anyone friends with you? After all, we are all sinners, the Bible tells us that.
 
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Did they repent from homosexuality? Do you support the idea that one can practice homosexual and be Christian at the same time? Humm? Will you allow them who refuse to recognize their sin or repent from it to take communion with us in our church?

That is an abomination!
Actually the person I was thinking of when I typed my earlier post does not engage in homosexual sex not is he in any type of homosexual relationship. If he sees another man he might have feelings towards him, but he doesn’t act on those feelings. Why wouldn’t he be permitted to take communion?

Who else do you exclude from Communion? Fat people? That’s gluttony. Lazy people? That’s slough. Who else?
 
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LOL. MasterYourLife is correct. Read the Bible, will you? Show us the Scripture where we are commanded to sacrifice our life for unrepentant unbelievers? Else it is just your personal opinion not worthy for consideration!

Oh you're back...


*If it's not for you...it's not for you...

...so, once again...I dust my feet off...
 
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Actually the person I was thinking of when I typed my earlier post does not engage in homosexual sex not is he in any type of homosexual relationship. If he sees another man he might have feelings towards him, but he doesn’t act on those feelings. Why wouldn’t he be permitted to take communion?

Mat 5:28-29
(28) But I say unto you, That whosoever looketh on a woman to lust after her hath committed adultery with her already in his heart.
(29) And if thy right eye offend thee, pluck it out, and cast it from thee: for it is profitable for thee that one of thy members should perish, and not that thy whole body should be cast into hell.

What do you think God sees when a man looks at another man to lust after him? Not good!

Who else do you exclude from Communion? Fat people? That’s gluttony. Lazy people? That’s slough. Who else?

Seriously? Are you making excuses for homosexualities, or what? Do you even know what communion is about?
 
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Mat 5:28-29
(28) But I say unto you, That whosoever looketh on a woman to lust after her hath committed adultery with her already in his heart.
(29) And if thy right eye offend thee, pluck it out, and cast it from thee: for it is profitable for thee that one of thy members should perish, and not that thy whole body should be cast into hell.

But to have a man look at another man to lust after him. EWWWW! It is still offensive to God.

Yes, he is a sinner just like us. Should men who lust after women be permitted to take Communion?

Seriously? Are you making excuses for homosexualities, or what?

No, I’m not.

Do you even know what communion is about?

Notice the Christian symbol. The answer is yes.
 
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Yes, he is a sinner just like us. Should men who lust after women be permitted to take Communion?

If he recognizes his sin and repents from it, yes. But the $10,000 question is should the unrepentant homosexual Christian take communion. The person who has refused to repent from homosexual, gender identity, or transgender, etc. that he does not see these as sin or abomination despite what the Word of God clearly declares? And homosexuality is rampant in many churches lately.
 
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Christian symbol?! LOL. It seems like you are not willing to explain the real meaning and purpose behind the communion at the Lord's supper.
Yes, it is Gods body and blood for the remission of sin. I can tell you what it isn’t—God doesn’t look down at we sinners when we partake of it and say “EWWWW!”
 
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If he recognizes his sin and repents from it, yes. But the $10,000 question is should the unrepentant homosexual Christian?
But I specifically referenced someone who has turned from his his sin.
 
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But I specifically referenced someone who has turned from his his sin.

No, you did not exactly answer the question. You were only trying to distract the real issue away from my question and talk about a gay person you knew who did not actually perform the homosexual act but only have problem lusting after someone else of the same sex. You still did NOT answer my question directly in the first place with a yes or no. Go back and try again.
 
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one thing that bothers me is how many Christians attacks people for being gay. You can say something is a sin but to make someone feel less than loved is not good way. Trying to make them less than feeling loved by God is wrong. I try to go with the path Jesus takes and befriend others. Not attack
Oddly enough, a lot of LGBT people don't agree with that stuff at all. In some other thread, I posted...

Growing up, we had a family friend. And, ahem, it was pretty obvious from the get-go which team he would ultimately play for.

Talking to him recently, he said words to the effect of "I'm fed up with patronizing [insert swear word here] like Christians 'supporting' my right to exist but denying me my right to get married and be happy. I'd rather they spit in my face and call for judgment on me than mealy-mouthed [insert same swear word here] like that!"

He says his attitude is fairly common among the gay men he knows. The level of hatred a lot of the LGBT community has for Christians should not be underestimated.
I personally don't see a problem with being on friendly terms with members of the LGBT community. However, my conscience would demand that I point their sins out to them. And frankly, most of them don't want to hear it.

Assuming they even believe in the Christian understanding of God, they will normally say something like "Only God can judge me". My fear is that He will do just that, and the LGBT community will not like His judgments one bit.
 
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Assuming they even believe in the Christian understanding of God, they will normally say something like "Only God can judge me". My fear is that He will do just that, and the LGBT community will not like His judgments one bit.

Exactly.

We preach the Gospel Truth in love to someone we felt they need repent from their sin. And someone will retort, "Only God can judge me" actually translates to "Leave me alone so I can sin in peace."

They and their allies, especially professed Christians, will come out and accuse you of being hateful, uncompassionate, or judgmentative but according to God, they are actually rejecting the Love of the Truth and will cause them to believe a lie as a judgment.

2Th 2:9-12
(9) Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders,
(10) And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved.
(11) And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:
(12) That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.

God will cause them to actually believe that they can be saved and still homosexual because it is all about "love" but find themselves on the wrong side of God coming Judgment Day!
 
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No, you did not exactly answer the question. You were only trying to distract the real issue away from my question and talk about a gay person you knew who did not actually perform the homosexual act but only have problem lusting after someone else of the same sex. You still did NOT answer my question directly in the first place with a yes or no. Go back and try again.
That’s it with you. I don’t take orders from you—don’t you tell me to go back and try again. I will also be ignoring you.
 
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Because it is none of our business. The Bible is there and churches are there.

If they ask us personally, we should lead them to the Bible and give them an honest answer. But so long as they don't want our input then pointing their sins out is mere judgment and is rude.
I agree with you but wanted to also mention that true God kind of love means to lay down your life for a friend.
IOW, IF I were gay I would hope to God that someone would tell me the truth out of love for me and hope for my future. Eternity is a very long time. I'd hope that they'd risk being "rude" to save my soul.
I'd rather hear ugly truth and live, than be coddled and burn.
 
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So we can’t be friends with sinners. Is anyone friends with you? After all, we are all sinners, the Bible tells us that.
We have to be friends with sinners.
That or zero friends and we'd have to shun ourselves lol.
But we're to shun unrepentant sinners. :/ we want to obey, right?
God put it this way:
"I was not including the sexually immoral of this world,
or the greedy and swindlers, or idolaters.
In that case you would have to leave this world.
But now I am writing you not to associate with anyone
who claims to be a brother but is
sexually immoral
or greedy, an idolater or a verbal abuser, a drunkard or a swindler.
With such a man do not even eat.
What business of mine is it to judge those outside the church?
Are you not to judge those inside?…
 
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Actually the person I was thinking of when I typed my earlier post does not engage in homosexual sex not is he in any type of homosexual relationship. If he sees another man he might have feelings towards him, but he doesn’t act on those feelings. Why wouldn’t he be permitted to take communion?

Who else do you exclude from Communion? Fat people? That’s gluttony. Lazy people? That’s slough. Who else?
Yes the key is if they are practicing homosexuality, same as if they are practicing adultery. And Paul also made that distinction. It is still sin, since Jesus said if you lust sexually after another person, it is as if you committed adultery with them. But to practice sinning shows you are not converted to the gospel.

Sin has serious consequence. Jesus says you need to deal with your sins as seriously as if you needed to consider extreme measures to stop sinning. Not that you should pluck out your eye.
But your sin is sending you to hell fire.
Its why He came, so you could gain eternal life through his sacrifice of himself. That is how seriously bad sin is.

Matthew 5:27-29 New King James Version (NKJV)
Adultery in the Heart
27 “You have heard that it was said to those of old, ‘You shall not commit adultery.’ 28 But I say to you that whoever looks at a woman to lust for her has already committed adultery with her in his heart. 29 If your right eye causes you to sin, pluck it out and cast it from you; for it is more profitable for you that one of your members perish, than for your whole body to be cast into hell.

Galatians 5
19 Now the works of the flesh are evident, which are: adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lewdness, 20 idolatry, sorcery, hatred, contentions, jealousies, outbursts of wrath, selfish ambitions, dissensions, heresies, 21 envy, murders, drunkenness, revelries, and the like; of which I tell you beforehand, just as I also told you in time past, that those who practice such things will not inherit the kingdom of God.
 
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