The current president does not have a racist bone in his body...

Aldebaran said:

How about standing up to those who want to censure him based on false accusations, or because he stands in the way of an extreme Leftist agenda that will bring down the country and even suppress your ability to live as a Christian?

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Which false allegations? Please be specific.

And what agenda? Please do not speculate and support with evidence.

Aldebaran said:

If he actually caused the leftist extremism, then how do you explain why he was elected right after we endured 8 years of that guy you told me to say what I will about?

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Because, in spite of you being classically conditioned to see him as a radical leftist, Obama was, as I pointed out and you ignored, somewhat to the right of William F. Buckley compared to what you've got to deal with today.

It's just as easy to say Obama caused Trump to be elected, but of course that would be responded to with, "That's because America is so racist!"

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Your panic is, as usual, utterly unfounded -- I agree 100% that Obama's presidency led to Donald's ascension.

Aldebaran said:

Sort of like "Go back to your own country" in reverse.

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Well, we're not hearing it from the government, but from private companies, so it's more like the baker who refuses to bake your wedding cake -- surely you of all people can relate to that, can't you?

TLK Valentine said:

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Your panic is, as usual, utterly unfounded -- I agree 100% that Obama's presidency led to Donald's ascension.

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I agree.
tulc(is going to need more coffee soon)

Aldebaran said:

But you can still dish out the goading?

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What goading? I simply recognize talent when I see it -- and recognize when I don't.

tulc said:

I agree.
tulc(is going to need more coffee soon)

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Shhh... that's supposed to be a secret -- according to the script, we're supposed to be howling something about racism right about now...

Aldebaran said:

If he actually caused the leftist extremism, then how do you explain why he was elected right after we endured 8 years of that guy you told me to say what I will about? It's just as easy to say Obama caused Trump to be elected, but of course that would be responded to with, "That's because America is so racist!"

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It was the Electoral College that caused Trump to be elected. Even as flawed as she was, the American people, by a margin of over 2 million, voted for his opposition.

Monksailor said:

I am not interested in presumption, assumption, conjecture, supposition, or opinion as a basis. Those are MOOT without God's Word for substantiation.

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Donald Trump is a crass, megalomaniacal, narcissistic demagogue. He's a national embarrassment. He exploits Christians with ugly rhetoric that plays on their most atavistic, xenophobic impulses. And then he revels in their cult-like adulation. Not to mention that he's destroying our country's standing among not just our traditional allies, but all the civilized nations of the world. The American people deserve much better than that.

Here a bit of God's word for your consideration:

Pride goeth before destruction, and an haughty spirit before a fall.
Proverbs 16:18

Thou shalt neither vex a stranger, nor oppress him: for ye were strangers in the land of Egypt.
Exodus 22:21

Aldebaran said:

How about standing up to those who want to censure him based on false accusations, or because he stands in the way of an extreme Leftist agenda that will bring down the country and even suppress your ability to live as a Christian?

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The accusations aren't false, he has said something that is xenophobic and bigoted.

LostMarbels said:

So whats your take on Ilhan Omar?

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She's not my congresswoman and I don't provide support to her, so I don't really have an opinion about her.

Monksailor said:

That is NOT the context of what Jesus is telling us. This erroneous presumption could not have been made by anyone who knew the context of the verse, but I anxiously await your getting off the phone and showing us where Christ shows us that He was being facetious when He said that. I am not interested in presumption, assumption, conjecture, supposition, or opinion as a basis. Those are MOOT without God's Word for substantiation.

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"Whose face is on this coin?"
"Caesar's"
"Let Caesar have his shiny metal, but render to God what belongs to God."

"You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind; and you shall love your neighbor as yourself."

-CryptoLutheran

LostMarbels said:

So whats your take on Ilhan Omar?

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She and AOC are the only ones who can win a Twitter war with Trump

Ilhan Omar on Twitter



And that is why AOC will be president in 2024 and Illhan will be the next Democratic Speaker

Aldebaran said:

The accusation that he said something racist. He did not.

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Because his supporters like you say so?

Aldebaran said:

That's right! He should be silenced on Twitter just as conservative voices are now being silenced on Youtube and Facebook. Then he'll truly be one of us!

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He’d still have the “bully pulpit” (which he misinterprets, IMO), of the Presidency...that’s not enough?

jayem said:

It was the Electoral College that caused Trump to be elected. Even as flawed as she was, the American people, by a margin of over 2 million, voted for his opposition.

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Alas, in elections, it's not just about who you are, it's about where you are.

Pommer said:

He’d still have the “bully pulpit” (which he misinterprets, IMO), of the Presidency...that’s not enough?

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Those people never have "enough" power and control...