Trump tells Omar to "go back" to Somalia, a country he is currently bombing

98cwitr · Jul 16, 2019

LoAmmi said:
1. The economic recovery has continued. Which is good. Trump didn't mess it up, but I'm also not convinced Trump did anything to make it better.

2. We're going to disagree.

3. America Only is a losing strategy in the end. Countries are already starting to form economic and political alliances with the US left behind. This will not help in the end.

4. Unemployment is going well.

5. Which functions are you thinking of?

6. I did not benefit much from the tax cuts. I ended up owing due to the withholding changes that I missed, so those changes caused a bit of a shock when I had to file.

7. Which jobs? Some have come back, others have left. Not much stopping businesses from going elsewhere for cheap labor. Some have even kissed Trump's behind, telling him they would keep jobs here so he talks about how great they are, then ships jobs away and he's too busy being the Tweeter-in-Chief to notice.

8. So... you think he isn't really doing it then? Because nothing's being done about the incentives.

You asked, I answered. I don't wish to go further OT...start a new thread if you wish to have a reasonable and civil debate on Trump's policies and how they are good (or not) for American citizens. That's not the point of this thread.

Speedwell · Jul 16, 2019

dogs4thewin said:
There is no such thing as "normal" Americans. America is a very diverse place.

That was a sly reference to a definition advanced by another right-wing poster to this forum last night, that a "normal" American can be uniquely identified by his ownership of a Bible and a Gun.

dogs4thewin · Jul 16, 2019

TLK Valentine said:
The administration and its followers are looking to correct that. Send them all back to their [censored]hole countries, they say...

no, if they came here right that is one thing, but when they come here illegally or come here unvetted I do not care where they came from they need to go home. I also feel that it is a problem when they do not leave when their visas and the like are up. Therefore, I have a "problem" with anyone here illegally whether or not they started out that way.

mina · Jul 16, 2019

dogs4thewin said:
no, if they came here right that is one thing, but when they come here illegally or come here unvetted I do not care where they came from they need to go home. I also feel that it is a problem when they do not leave when their visas and the like are up. Therefore, I have a "problem" with anyone here illegally whether or not they started out that way.

That has nothing to do with this thread. This thread is about a woman that is a legal American citizen.

CRAZY_CAT_WOMAN · Jul 16, 2019

Pedra said:
That is just bogus, he never insinuated any such thing.

Yes, I'm guessing Trump has no idea. There's a war going on in Somalia. But with his Muslim belief. I'm sure he believes bad things will happen to her. And hopes they will.

LoAmmi · Jul 16, 2019

98cwitr said:
You asked, I answered. I don't wish to go further OT...start a new thread if you wish to have a reasonable and civil debate on Trump's policies and how they are good (or not) for American citizens. That's not the point of this thread.

I won't be starting a thread.

dogs4thewin · Jul 16, 2019

mina said:
That has nothing to do with this thread. This thread is about a woman that is a legal American citizen.

This was relating to the assertion that there were "normal" Americans and a poster stating that the current admin was looking to change the diverse nature of this country by sending people back to their blank hole countries and I was saying that no if people came here the right way and stated under the terms of their documents very few people had a problem.

LoAmmi · Jul 16, 2019

dogs4thewin said:
We do.

Then you should be mad at Trump for telling a US citizen to "go home".

dogs4thewin · Jul 16, 2019

CRAZY_CAT_WOMAN said:
Yes, I'm guessing Trump has no idea. There's a war going on in Somalia. But with his Muslim belief. I'm sure he believes bad things will happen to her. And hopes they will.

There has been war going on in Somalia for quite some time now.

comana · Jul 16, 2019

dogs4thewin said:
that is why I pointed out nationals where a person was born.

Yes but the term National or more correctly Foreign National (as I assume you meant) refers to someone residing in a country of which they are not a citizen.

Trump was telling her to leave and fix her own country’s mess before getting involved in running the US. Yet Somalia is not her country anymore and she has no obligation to do anything for that country. She was elected to give her voice to running her country which is the US.

She has just as much right as Trump to voice what she believes is the best path to improve the US. Trump just can’t handle someone disagreeing with him.

seeking.IAM · Jul 16, 2019

The President has no class. He treats fellow humans with disrespect, as the case in point and many like it reflect. Most of us would chastise our own children for saying some of the things he says. He does not represent America well on the world stage. I think he is an embarrassment.

Speedwell · Jul 16, 2019

98cwitr said:
Until they demonstrate what some of us may consider treasonous talk, anti-American rhetoric, and anti-Semitic vitriol then yeah...we do.

Congrats (and I mean this quite honestly and seriously) for putting in "some of us" instead of "all real Americans" or something else to that effect. It's a rare thing to hear from a conservative these days. :oldthumbsup:

Pedra · Jul 16, 2019

So this has turned into a Bash Trump thread?
Tired of that garbage it's 24/7.

Speedwell · Jul 16, 2019

Pedra said:
So this has turned into a Bash Trump thread?
Tired of that garbage it's 24/7.

Not sure. It might still be a Bash Muslims thread.

mina · Jul 16, 2019

LoAmmi said:
Then you should be mad at Trump for telling a US citizen to "go home".

This is what puzzles me. Even if you love Trump, you have to admit deep down that what he said is extremely problematic if you also say you love America. Legal citizens by birth and legal citizens who obtained citizenship legally being told their American rights shouldn't cover them because he doesn't like what they say and they should "go back home". That should sicken every American and we shouldn't stand for talk like that especially from the leader of the country. I think those that love America should stand up for the rights of all citizens even if they disagree with them. It's a scary thought that only "the right kind of American" should be allowed to run for office, speak freely , or even be allowed to live here. It's spitting on the Constitution for one. And it is not America. Americans who love the country should be pro-active in protecting the basic American rights for all Americans.

wing2000 · Jul 16, 2019

Pedra said:
So this has turned into a Bash Trump thread?
Tired of that garbage it's 24/7.

Write a letter to the POTUS if you are tired of hearing the garbage.

Pedra · Jul 16, 2019

CRAZY_CAT_WOMAN said:
Yes, I'm guessing Trump has no idea. There's a war going on in Somalia. But with his Muslim belief. I'm sure he believes bad things will happen to her. And hopes they will.

We should stick to facts and not put words into other people's mouths or pretend we know motives and intent. That type of false rhetoric is now common place and is equal to gossip, & is one of the things the Bible states God hates. I don't partake in this spin.

LoAmmi · Jul 16, 2019

Pedra said:
So this has turned into a Bash Trump thread?
Tired of that garbage it's 24/7.

Because we're the ones that made him tell a US citizen to go back to another country. Right.

iluvatar5150 · Jul 16, 2019

98cwitr said:
To keep the narrative in the OP honest, he also said for her to fix the problems there, and then come back to the US and share to solutions.

Are you really trying to present his statement as an honest request for new and innovative ideas to problem solving?

cow451 said:
We sent other American citizens to fix Somalia. And all we got out of it was a good war movie.

Why send one member of Congress? Why not send Ivanka? She’s really smart, you know.

What about Jared? Somalia is close enough to the Middle East to fall under his bailiwick, isn't it?

cow451 · Jul 16, 2019

iluvatar5150 said:
What about Jared? Somalia is close enough to the Middle East to fall under his bailiwick, isn't it?

Good point. This country is so tough we may need both on the job.

Trump tells Omar to "go back" to Somalia, a country he is currently bombing

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