Ten arguments for intelligent design

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The ability to understand the causes and effects.

Why do we need a brain?
Why do we need a liver?
Why do we need nitrogen?
How do we regulate healthy blood?
Based on that definition the biosphere is not intelligent. Intelligence is not required for the production of complex objects or entities.
 
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The specifics of creation....

1. The human brain contains 100 billion brain cells
2. 2 million brain cells die every minute
3. 14 billion synapses, the vital intersections between neurons Die every minute
4. The brain has top priority for blood, just like RAM memory needs electricity in a computer.
5. The blood needs to be cleansed by organs like the liver and kidneys so glucose and oxygen can keep the brain going. Loose the liver and kidneys and you will get very sick real fast.
6. The eyes need to stay clear. Tears need to secrete via the lacrimal gland a clear lubricating chemistry to the eye. The eye needs the desired image to arrive at the correct place so the retina can process the image in full color to the brain.
7. The body needs to regulate the correct levels of glucose and oxygen at the correct temperature. Too much or too little sugar can quickly destroy the human organs causing all kinds of problems, including blindness. The pancreas has two main functions: an exocrine function that helps in digestion and an endocrine function that regulates blood sugar.
8. The body needs a male sperm to connect with a female egg to reform the human in a womb and put all these complexities together again.
9. Putting everything together and the human body contains about 40 trillion living cells, all with some kind of function to contribute to a healthy human body.
10. All these cells need the correct chemistry from planet earth to stay alive.

All of which came together by intelligent design.
You don´t seem to know what is required for an argument.
On the way from your observations to your conclusion there is at least one missing link - either because you forgot to mention it or because it isn´t there.
 
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The liver is a large, meaty organ that sits on the right side of the belly. Weighing about 3 pounds, the liver is reddish-brown in color and feels rubbery to the touch. The liver's main job is to filter the blood coming from the digestive tract, before passing it to the rest of the body. The liver also detoxifies chemicals and metabolizes drugs. As it does so, the liver secretes bile that ends up back in the intestines. Ten functions of the liver....

1. Liver enzymes and oxygen burn toxins. The result is combined with amino acids so the burned toxins can be removed through bile or as urine.
2. In partnership with the pancreas, the liver balances blood sugar by metabolizing carbohydrates.
3. Produces bile, which helps digest fats and vitamins in the small intestines, to prepare them for absorption or elimination.
4. Mobilizes Kupffer cells, which reside specifically in the liver and kill any bacteria they encounter and fights intestinal infections.
5. Regeneration - A liver that is 40 percent of its normal size will repair itself completely after one month
6. The liver synthesizes three types of plasma proteins, which are transporters of fats, vitamins, minerals, and hormones.
7. The life of red blood cells is about 4 months. The liver removes the dead cells.
8. The blood transfers cholesterol and fatty acids, storing them in fat tissues.
9. The liver removes ammonia (NH3), which must be removed or it will damage the central nervous system.
10. The liver produces most of the cholesterol in your body and is needed to make vitamin D, digestive enzymes, and hormones. Excess cholesterol is combined with bile so the liver can eliminate it. - Essential Functions of the Liver

All of which came by an intelligent designer who had to have an eternal mind and the ability to work in the molecular to create billions of living cells, working together for the reality of life and consciousness.
 
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All of which came by an intelligent designer who had to have an eternal mind and the ability to work in the molecular to create billions of living cells, working together for the reality of life and consciousness.
Yes, that is your conclusion. What is your argument? How did the intelligent designer make all that happen?
 
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If E = mc2 then we can divide and conclude that...

Mass (m) = Energy (E/c2)

And there are three varieties...

Natural E/c2 - All mass is basically cooled plasma
Mental E/c2 - Our brains output is a result of E/c2
Spiritual E/c2 - E (motivation, warmth, love) / c2 (faith, hope, charity, joy)

From the eternal energy and light we came forth, as the creator willed it
From the eternal energy and light we return, into the hands from which it came forth!

E/c2 is eternal stuff, and to her properties what we call 15 trillion years is a mere blink of the eye. Who knows how many times the plasma has been turned to mass and the mass to plasma? It is not a hard thing for God to dis-associate the mass of the universe into energy and light and then re-associate the energy and light back into matter. As a 'matter' of fact...

But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up. - 2 Peter 3:10

God is going to change all mass back into the plasma energy from whence it was forged... And he will do something else with it!

For, behold, I create new heavens and a new earth: and the former shall not be remembered, nor come into mind. - Isaiah 65:17

The mass awaits its disassociation! It will soon become something else! Our lifetimes are mere blinks of the eye in contrast to eternity!
 
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God is going to change all mass back into the plasma energy from whence it was forged... And he will do something else with it!

Ah. Minor quibble. Plasma has mass. It's gaseous, ionized matter. But changing the matter back to energy, that's fine.
 
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It is an apt description of basic physical processes though.

The complexity of living interactions make this an amazing oversimplification.

If you can't fathom how to get from simple rules and structures to evolutionary biology and complex structures like multi-cellular organisms I get it, you lack some bit of the imagination required, or you're too invested in some religion.

Regardless, the "explanation" of intelligent designers doesn't actually leave us with more information than we had before. It doesn't give us more predictive power in the universe.
 
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If E = mc2 then we can divide and conclude that...

Mass (m) = Energy (E/c2)

And there are three varieties...

Natural E/c2 - All mass is basically cooled plasma
Mental E/c2 - Our brains output is a result of E/c2
Spiritual E/c2 - E (motivation, warmth, love) / c2 (faith, hope, charity, joy)

E (energy of resting mass) is already in the formula it equals MC2

The formula E/C2 = M (mass)

E = MC2 is the formula for energy of a given mass at rest.

Brains don't put out energy, they are physical processes powered by metabolic chemical reactions.

If you're going to go full pseudoscience, at least learn the science you're loosely plagiarizing.
 
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E (energy of resting mass) is already in the formula it equals MC2

The formula E/C2 = M (mass)

E = MC2 is the formula for energy of a given mass at rest.

Brains don't put out energy, they are physical processes powered by metabolic chemical reactions.

If you're going to go full pseudoscience, at least learn the science you're loosely plagiarizing.

If E = mc2 then we can divide and conclude that...

Mass (m) = Energy (E/c2)

And there are three varieties...

Natural E/c2 - All mass is basically cooled plasma
Mental E/c2 - Our brains output is a result of E/c2
Spiritual E/c2 - E (motivation, warmth, love) / c2 (faith, hope, charity, joy)

And to measure....

Natural E/c2 - By weighing
Mental E/c2 - By testing
Spiritual E/c2 - The everyday conduct

As energy is measured by heat measurements and light by lumens, so the character is measured by the warmth and light it emits, translating into conduct.

The opposites....

Absolute Zero and Darkness - Nothing - Outer Space

Naturally - Space - No weight
Mentally - No thought
Spiritually - Cold (laziness, coldness, hatred) Darkness (fear, depression, greed, sorrow)

There are people in this world who are very intelligent and beautiful to look on, but they have no character and are cold, dark, voids spiritually.
 
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If E = mc2 then we can divide and conclude that...

Mass (m) = Energy (E/c2)

And there are three varieties...

Natural E/c2 - All mass is basically cooled plasma
Mental E/c2 - Our brains output is a result of E/c2
Spiritual E/c2 - E (motivation, warmth, love) / c2 (faith, hope, charity, joy)

And to measure....

Natural E/c2 - By weighing
Mental E/c2 - By testing
Spiritual E/c2 - The everyday conduct

As energy is measured by heat measurements and light by lumens, so the character is measured by the warmth and light it emits, translating into conduct.

The opposites....

Absolute Zero and Darkness - Nothing - Outer Space

Naturally - Space - No weight
Mentally - No thought
Spiritually - Cold (laziness, coldness, hatred) Darkness (fear, depression, greed, sorrow)

There are people in this world who are very intelligent and beautiful to look on, but they have no character and are cold, dark, voids spiritually.

I must say also that I have made a lot of money with theses teachings.

Natural E/c2 - All mass is basically cooled plasma
Mental E/c2 - Our brains output is a result of E/c2
Spiritual E/c2 - E (motivation, warmth, love) / c2 (faith, hope, charity, joy)

“Buy on the cannons. Sell on the trumpets” - French adage

Natural E/c2 - The stock has productive assets
Mental E/c2 - The stock has a winning business plan
Spiritual E/c2 - The stock has a hope

I had bought Google at its IPO very cheap and sold it at a good profit. But, had I held onto it I would be a very rich man. Big lesson... Never sell a good stock until well after those trumpets have sounded! Now that’s the kind of foolishness I try to avoid!
 
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We are made up of tens of trillions of cells. I would encourage all who have read this thread to know your own body and take care of it. Especially taking care of the digestion system... Stomach, intestines, liver, kidneys, and etc. Your body is unique and needs you to pay attention to what it is telling you!
 
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I have tried to prove the effects of light and energy as a created virtue on this planet.

Natural E/c2 - All mass is basically cooled plasma
Mental E/c2 - Our brains output is a result of E/c2
Spiritual E/c2 - E (motivation, warmth, love) / c2 (faith, hope, charity, joy)

There are incorrect spiritual attributes that are not of the true source.

When we had a plating department in our facility I worked under a chemist. This chemist was very smart and very good at math. When he laid out equations he did so in very neat handwriting and there would be much activity as he turned the results of an analysis into an addition. I would take his calculations and put them in the form of visual basic functions and sub procedures.

Our chemist also wanted a wonderful fellowship and spirituality (as I have tried to explain it) to exist in the lab. As we had a difficult environment trying to plate with lead using all kinds of chemicals, including cyanide, which was also difficult to treat for waste water, it was important to him that we all get along. A chemist also was in the business of trying to solve the problem, “what is this?”

Of all the years I worked with this man I had one opportunity to witness to him. I made my presentation while he was analyzing adhesion under a microscope in which you could hear the sounds... Scratch, scratch, scratch! Scratch scratch, scratch! After my presentation he just continued to look under the microscope as if ignored everything I said so I just continued in my work. Then... The scratch scratch, scratching stopped! And he speaks!

"You know what I think it is?" He says while continuing to look under the microscope... "I think it is arrogance!"

And then, without taking his eyes off the microscope, he continues his work... Scratch, scratch, scratch! Scratch scratch, scratch! I did not reply but went about my work. Inside I feared he was right. The ego is not true light and it is bad news for any organization.

In dealing with atheists I find a terrible spiritual motive. All I can do is present my beliefs as best as I can spiritually, naturally, and intellectually.... Do the best I can.... And take what’s coming to me. But as the scripture says....

The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. They are corrupt, they have done abominable works, there is none that doeth good. - Psalms 14:1
 
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Sigh.

Energy is E. It's unit is the Joule. C is a constant.
If E = mc2 then we can divide and conclude that...

Mass (m) = Energy (E/c2)

E Joule is a unit measuring heat
C2 is the speed of light squared

Fission - When you dis-associate, or split, the atom you get energy and light (E/c2)
Fusion- When you associate, or fuse, energy and light (E/c2) back into the atom you get massive amounts of energy and light (E/c2).

In that c2 is in the denominator much energy is released during the process, leading St Peter to say....

But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up. - 2 Peter 3:10

This will be such an incredible event that Peter repeats himself...

Looking for and hasting unto the coming of the day of God, wherein the heavens being on fire shall be dissolved, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat? - 2 Peter 3:12

I want to be around to see what the Father does with all that light and energy!
 
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If E = mc2 then we can divide and conclude that...

Mass (m) = Energy (E/c2)

E Joule is a unit measuring heat
C2 is the speed of light squared

Joules measure heat, energy and work.

Fission - When you dis-associate, or split, the atom you get energy and light (E/c2)
Fusion- When you associate, or fuse, energy and light (E/c2) back into the atom you get massive amounts of energy and light (E/c2).

When you associate or disassociate matter in fission or fusion you get an amount of energy in joules determined by the mass, or potential energy you lost in the process times the speed of light squared, which gets converted into energy, heat, work.

You get E in joules determined by (Mc2) the amount of mass equivalence you lose in the process, multiplied by the constant the speed of light squared. Much more energy per unit mass. You don't get "the speed of light" out of it, that is a constant that allows you to predict how much energy there is per unit mass.

In that c2 is in the denominator much energy is released during the process, leading St Peter to say....

No, it's the conversion factor, and it belongs multiplied by the mass to give the energy in this equation.

Much more energy per unit mass than the other way around.

E = Mc2 The constant c2 (the speed of light squared) is the ratio E/M energy per unit of mass.

The constant c squared doesn't belong to either category (energy or mass) it is the conversion factor between.
 
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Joules measure heat, energy and work.



When you associate or disassociate matter in fission or fusion you get an amount of energy in joules determined by the mass, or potential energy you lost in the process times the speed of light squared gets converted into energy, heat, work.

You get E in joules determined by (Mc2) the amount of mass equivalence you lose in the process, multiplied by the constant the speed of light squared. Much more energy per unit mass. You don't get "the speed of light" out of it, that is a constant that allows you to predict how much energy there is per unit mass.



No, it's the conversion factor, and it belongs multiplied by the mass to give the energy in this equation.

Much more energy per unit mass than the other way around.

Behold the result of turning mass to E/C2 and the E/C2 back to mass... What you see is the incredible light and energy that went into the atom to begin with. In that the speed of light squared is a huge number in the denominator that defines the energy within mass indicates the great energy that exists within creation.

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