conservative groups fight mindfulness in schools

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From what I read, these kids are merely being given time to sit quietly in meditation.

From my extensive research about education reform, I can tell you that it goes way beyond this and has for decades. Teaching New Age practices in the public schools is not a new thing.

Kids used to be given a moment of silence to PRAY. Now, it's to MEDITATE....

Edit: In the '90s and early 2000s, I spent thousands of hours researching education reform. This is one of many areas I researched and wrote about. The following is a portion of an article I wrote.

Self-esteem Curriculum: Pumsy

Parents may think that the self-esteem curriculum used in their child’s school is full of harmless lessons, but consider the following information about one of the leading self-esteem curricula used in schools called Pumsy in Pursuit of Excellence: Self-Esteem for the Elementary Child. The Pumsy Web site has touted that “the Pumsy program has helped improve the personal growth of children in nearly half the elementary schools in the US.

The preface to the 1987 edition states: “This Leader’s Guide is intended as a curriculum guide for teaching self-esteem to elementary school children through cognitive restructuring and positive thinking skills.”

The positive theme for Unit 4 is “I AM ME, AND I AM ENOUGH.” In Session 12 the teacher tells the children:

Let’s take a moment to paint a Mind Picture. Relax and get comfortable.... Let your shoulders relax, and let your arms and hands rest in a comfortable way. Let your head relax. You can let it fall forward a little if that helps you relax. Let your whole body work as if it were in slow motion. Close your eyes, but not tight. Take slow deep breaths. When your breath comes out, you might feel as if you could sink into your chair.​

Children are then told to imagine themselves holding a cup that is full because the children are in their “Clear Mind.” The teacher recites these words to the children:

When you are in your Clear Mind, the cup is always full. It is full when you feel good about yourself. It is full when you have made a good choice that leaves you feeling O.K. and doesn’t cause any new problems. It is full when you know the right thing to do, and you do it. It is full because you have chosen for it to be full.

This implies that “feeling O.K.” about something is the standard for knowing “the right thing to do.” This is a classic belief of humanism. Schools used to teach the truth—that God’s Word, the Bible—is the standard for knowing what is right!

The children are led through a series of things to imagine (guided imagery) and are told throughout to be aware of their feelings during this process. Toward the end of the session the teacher recites these words to the children:

After you have decided what to do with your magic cup, you can start wiggling your fingers, and then when you’re ready you can begin to move your arms around a little bit. Next, you can begin to open your eyes and say with me in a clear, strong voice... “I am me and I am enough. I am me, and I am enough. I am me, and I am enough.”

The teacher is then directed to display a poster with the words “I AM ME, AND I AM ENOUGH” on it.

The above rituals utilize guided imagery, a New Age practice. Also, they are similar to techniques utilized in hypnosis. Based on personal experience, I believe that the practice of hypnosis (often used in psychoanalysis) can lower moral inhibitions much like drugs or alcohol and can even leave children open to demonic influence. Also, the concept of having a “clear mind” (i.e. devoid of thought) is a New Age concept and is not scriptural. God gives us a sound mind (2 Timothy 1: 7) full of His thoughts—the “mind of Christ.”.
 
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The world doesn't love truth nor seeks it.

Found Wikipedia did ya?
Those of us who were involved in the New Age know first hand what this meditation is about & the new age practices that are being mainstreamed should not be allowed into schools. You might be too set in your opinions, but others should educate themselves and reject it.
They can check out youtube for people like Author Warren Smith, Christian Apologist Dave Hunt, Christian filmmaker Caryl Matrisciana, Author Ray Yungen
https://www.lighthousetrailsresearch.com/
I've read books by Warren Smith (who was deep into New Age before becoming a Christian) and Ray Yungen. Very eye-opening!
 
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Given the realities of a classroom, I don't think so.



Very different situations. What will happen when a group of kids is left to sit quietly with nothing to do?

The ones who have been taught by their parents to use such time productively will do so.
 
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From my extensive research about education reform, I can tell you that it goes way beyond this and has for decades. Teaching New Age practices in the public schools is not a new thing.

Kids used to be given a moment of silence to PRAY. Now, it's to MEDITATE....

Blessed is the one who does not walk in step with the wicked or stand in the way that sinners take or sit in the company of mockers,but whose delight is in the law of the LORD, and who meditates on his law day and night. -- Psalm 1

I will meditate on Your precepts And regard Your ways. -- Psalm 119
 
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The ones who have been taught by their parents to use such time productively will do so.
What about all of the children who don't have such astute parents as you? Please read my last long post.
 
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I've read books by Warren Smith (who was deep into New Age before becoming a Christian) and Ray Yungen. Very eye-opening!
Yes it is. We can really see the falling away happening as so many professed Christians do not recognize the spiritual danger and the programming of the children that is underway. It bothers me on many levels, not just because of what I know about this stuff spiritually, but, because in my opinion it is the job of the adults to act with caution and be about protecting the welfare of the children even if it's not their own children. Those that are speaking out on this issue get attacked as over-reacting or being on a witch-hunt but those that try to shut us down from sounding the warning are useful fools & really just willfully blind.
 
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Yes it is. We can really see the falling away happening as so many professed Christians do not recognize the spiritual danger and the programming of the children that is underway. It bothers me on many levels, not just because of what I know about this stuff spiritually, but, because in my opinion it is the job of the adults to act with caution and be about protecting the welfare of the children even if it's not their own children. Those that are speaking out on this issue get attacked as over-reacting or being on a witch-hunt but those that try to shut us down from sounding the warning are useful fools & really just willfully blind.
I spent the '90s trying to warn parents about what's going on the schools. Many didn't listen because the info impeded upon their comfort zone. So sad!!!
 
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Has anyone read:
http://www.ca3rsproject.org/bulletins/3RsBulletin-Nov-2016.pdf

It presents both sides of the argument. One by Dr Patricia Jennings saying Mindfulness can be secularized and another form Dr. Candy Gunther Brown saying it can't.

I found this interesting on page 7

"As secular mindfulness
teacher Jenny Wilks explains in the
article “Secular Mindfulness,” “key
Dharma teachings and practices are
implicit . . . even if not explicit” in
secular classes. Wilks elaborates
that “although we wouldn’t use the
terminology of the three lakkhanas
[marks of existence: anicca, or impermanence;
dukkha, or suffering;
and anatta, or no-self] when teaching
MBPs [mindfulness-based programs],
through the practice people
often do come to realize the changing
and evanescent nature of their
experiences
.” Those teaching mindfulness
in secular contexts such as
public schools may not intend to
cross the wall separating government
from religion, or even recognize
that they are doing so. But
suppositions about the nature of
reality can become so naturalized
and believed so thoroughly that it
is easy to infer that they are simply
true and universal, rather than recognizing
ideas as culturally conditioned
and potentially conflicting
with other worldviews."

So a realization might challenge one's current world view. Wow! Can't have that!
 
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Has anyone read:
http://www.ca3rsproject.org/bulletins/3RsBulletin-Nov-2016.pdf

It presents both sides of the argument. One by Dr Oarricia Jennings saying Mindfulness can be secularized and another form Dr. Candy Gunther Brown saying it cant.

I found this interesting on page 7
"
As secular mindfulness
teacher Jenny Wilks explains in the
article “Secular Mindfulness,” “key
Dharma teachings and practices are
implicit . . . even if not explicit” in
secular classes. Wilks elaborates
that “although we wouldn’t use the
terminology of the three lakkhanas
[marks of existence: anicca, or impermanence;
dukkha, or suffering;
and anatta, or no-self] when teaching
MBPs [mindfulness-based programs],
through the practice people
often do come to realize the changing
and evanescent nature of their
experiences
.” Those teaching mindfulness
in secular contexts such as
public schools may not intend to
cross the wall separating government
from religion, or even recognize
that they are doing so. But
suppositions about the nature of
reality can become so naturalized
and believed so thoroughly that it
is easy to infer that they are simply
true and universal, rather than recognizing
ideas as culturally conditioned
and potentially conflicting
with other worldviews."

So a realization might challenge their current world view. Wow!
This is great! Thanks for posting it.

Challenging and displacing a child's belief system (worldview) is called brainwashing! But this is exactly what the schools have been doing for decades. Curricula have been designed and used to move children from the traditional Christian worldview to more of a New Age worldview. I commented on one of these curricula above.
 
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Has anyone read:
http://www.ca3rsproject.org/bulletins/3RsBulletin-Nov-2016.pdf

It presents both sides of the argument. One by Dr Patricia Jennings saying Mindfulness can be secularized and another form Dr. Candy Gunther Brown saying it can't.

I found this interesting on page 7

"As secular mindfulness
teacher Jenny Wilks explains in the
article “Secular Mindfulness,” “key
Dharma teachings and practices are
implicit . . . even if not explicit” in
secular classes. Wilks elaborates
that “although we wouldn’t use the
terminology of the three lakkhanas
[marks of existence: anicca, or impermanence;
dukkha, or suffering;
and anatta, or no-self] when teaching
MBPs [mindfulness-based programs],
through the practice people
often do come to realize the changing
and evanescent nature of their
experiences
.” Those teaching mindfulness
in secular contexts such as
public schools may not intend to
cross the wall separating government
from religion, or even recognize
that they are doing so. But
suppositions about the nature of
reality can become so naturalized
and believed so thoroughly that it
is easy to infer that they are simply
true and universal, rather than recognizing
ideas as culturally conditioned
and potentially conflicting
with other worldviews."

So a realization might challenge their current world view. Wow!

That's like saying let's not have science lessons in class because kids might learn about something that contradicts the Bible. It's not a good argument against mindfulness, it's an argument against religious fundamentalism.
 
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I spent the '90s trying to warn parents about what's going on the schools. Many didn't listen because the info impeded upon their comfort zone. So sad!!!

An observation one prominent sociologist of religion has noted - that the 1980s/90s saw the rise of a "spirituality" that uses spiritual language to refer to things no one understands, thereby allowing people to put one foot in both camps. In surveys they answer, "Yes, I believe in God. I'm spiritual," but their spiritual beliefs have little to no impact on how they live their life.
 
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This is great! Thanks for posting it.

Challenging and displacing a child's belief system (worldview) is called brainwashing! But this is exactly what the schools have been doing for decades.

Actually, more like millennia. It's just a different group doing it now.
 
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An observation one prominent sociologist of religion has noted - that the 1980s/90s saw the rise of a "spirituality" that uses spiritual language to refer to things no one understands, thereby allowing people to put one foot in both camps. In surveys they answer, "Yes, I believe in God. I'm spiritual," but their spiritual beliefs have little to no impact on how they live their life.
Good observation. It's holding to a form of "religion," but denying its power.
 
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Blessed is the one who does not walk in step with the wicked or stand in the way that sinners take or sit in the company of mockers,but whose delight is in the law of the LORD, and who meditates on his law day and night. -- Psalm 1

I will meditate on Your precepts And regard Your ways. -- Psalm 119

Meditation in buddhist sense is emptying the mind, or watching your thoughts it is not the same meaning as the Bible term -meditate. The Bible's term in Psalm 1:2 for eg. means to ponder, to think upon your precepts. So reading God's word , studying the scriptures and pondering on the meaning of it.
 
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Actually, more like millennia. It's just a different group doing it now.
I've traced current education reforms back to the turn of the last century and Dewey's Progressive Education reform.

Edit: FYI, Dewey approved of communist ideas about education.
 
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Meditation in buddhist sense is emptying the mind, or watching your thoughts it is not the same meaning as the Bible term -meditate. The Bible's term in Psalm 1:2 for eg. means to ponder, to think upon your precepts. So reading God's word , studying the scriptures and pondering on the meaning of it.

Uncritical acceptance of something is not mindfulness.
 
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Meditation in buddhist sense is emptying the mind, or watching your thoughts it is not the same meaning as the Bible term -meditate. The Bible's term in Psalm 1:2 for eg. means to ponder, to think upon your precepts. So reading God's word , studying the scriptures and pondering on the meaning of it.

Thanks for the clarification. I'm often not knowledgeable enough about the flip side meaning of a word to say what you did, but often suspect different groups intend different meanings. It's a constant problem with some at CF. For example, if Martin Luther happened to use the words "hell" and "bells" in a sermon, it means he approved of AC/DC music.
 
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