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Leviticus 20:13
“‘If a man has sexual relations with a man as one does with a woman, both of them have done what is detestable. They are to be put to death; their blood will be on their own heads.

1 Corinthians 6:9 King James Version (KJV)
9 Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind,

1 Corinthians 6:9 New International Version (NIV)
9 Or do you not know that wrongdoers will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor men who have sex with men"

Leviticus 20:13 has no application in my life, because, again, I'm a Christian.

And as for 1 Corinthians 6:9, like I said before debate on the subject is not permitted on this website. But I will say that I have my opinions based on my studies on the words μαλακός and αρσενοκοίτης and what St. Paul is saying in the text; key to understanding this is looking at the other terms Paul is using here, and that context, and as this is being addressed to the Christian community in Corinth.

-CryptoLutheran
 
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Besides rape, there is also other deviant behavior. Because white women are choosing lesbianism apart from the norm, the white race is now in decline this year. There are also other negative things going on behind the signs. I am speaking of Lesbians grooming girls in politics, law, education, and social organizations. Like I mean things that are really bad, things that can not be discussed.

Then maybe you should just do us all a favor and keep this garbage to yourself.
 
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Because this discussion is about the biblical god, not society today.
Doesn't it strike you as curious that in spite of all the faults we can (and should) find with the world today, all but the most savage or abhorrent places tend to be more humane than the historical society personally instructed by the LORD?
Who outside of some Islamic hellhole would think of stoning prisoners to death? Even societies that still embrace the death penalty usually aim to reduce the pain and suffering, and the practice in itself has been disappearing rapidly.
How is it possible that mere fallible mortals such as ourselves do better than YHVH, despite all our considerable shortcomings?

Oh like the Genocide of Native Americans , the genocide of the black community by means of aborition , eugenitics programs , the Black lives matter group unless your a half born child.
We are living in paradise I'm sure .
The hypocrisy of allowing Muslim prayer in public places including schools , but don't say Jesus.
A society who cannot figure out what bathroom to use .
And I suppose it's all God's fault for the debauchery?
Piles of people lying on the street in their own dung in California, a state that is broke and still wants funds to bring in more illegals?
When will common sense prevail ?
This has nothing to do with God , it has to do with a Godless society.
Have you studied the French revolution?
Have you studied the fallout of Communist governments?
Then you may look at the Bible in the book of Judges , the narritive is 400 years of opression from moral decay.
With each new Judge there was a season of peace, then by the next generation once again captivity starvation and violence.
I guess I had forgotten human trafficking.
God's Word is not the problem of any society, it is the abandonment of God's Word that brings moral decay.
 
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What I do not understand is references to the Old Testament to violence, when we are living in the New Coveanut, and A God has given you the freedom of free will to be a Atheist, or a Pagan or a Christian.
Yet if you remove the love of God , and follow after man's logic historically
You would not have rights of freedom of Religon, if you were a Christian ,Atheist or Pagan we all would be killed.
Does anyone understand the history of Communist governments, or Sharia Law?
How about the dark ages?
If all of us want to continiue to be who we are , we must look around us.
We are on a tight rope of nuclear war for goodness sake.
You express your rights to be what you choose to be ,the God I serve gives you this right.
The God I serve calls for me to love you all ,I care about you for who you are and let God be the judge, I do not Judge you.
It is my sincere desire all of us wake to the reality that is emerging.

My apologies for telling you how I really feel.
My goal would be for all of us to reason out the task at hand rather than trying
To undermine each other's beliefs.
 
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Besides rape, there is also other deviant behavior. Because white women are choosing lesbianism apart from the norm, the white race is now in decline this year. There are also other negative things going on behind the signs. I am speaking of Lesbians grooming girls in politics, law, education, and social organizations. Like I mean things that are really bad, things that can not be discussed.
What does rape have to do with sexual orientation? Unless we are talking about sexual behaviours that are specifically targeted at non-consenting subjects (such as children) by their very definition, there is no such link.
Wow, your post packs a whole cornucopia of nasty stuff. White supremacy/racism, sexism, a pronounced fear of women in politics, and genuine Alex Jones-type lunacy.
 
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What I do not understand is references to the Old Testament to violence, when we are living in the New Coveanut, and A God has given you the freedom of free will to be a Atheist, or a Pagan or a Christian.

Under that god, those events which are considered to be evil were at one time good. You can't just pretend them away and claim god is so loving.

Yet if you remove the love of God , and follow after man's logic historically
You would not have rights of freedom of Religon, if you were a Christian ,Atheist or Pagan we all would be killed.

My freedom of religion is granted to me by a secular civil government. Your god explicitly says that I should not be practicing my religion as I do, and that the punishment for doing so is death. Read the 1st commandment again and tell me god gives me the right to freedom of religion.

You express your rights to be what you choose to be ,the God I serve gives you this right.

Even if god did grant those rights, he then punishes you for all eternity for exercising them? Gee, thanks.
 
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Oh like the Genocide of Native Americans , the genocide of the black community by means of aborition , eugenitics programs , the Black lives matter group unless your a half born child.
Wait, you name black people's concern about being targeted and killed by racist authorities in one breath with genocidal violence, AND deny the bodily autonomy of women in the same sentence by perpetuating the myth of live-birth abortions? Wow, a real hero here.
We are living in paradise I'm sure .
Compared to Biblical times, or even 100 years ago? Absolutely!

The hypocrisy of allowing Muslim prayer in public places including schools , but don't say Jesus.
Sounds like a conspiracy to me, alongside the imaginary "war on Christmas".
A society who cannot figure out what bathroom to use .
You do realise gender-segregated bathrooms are a very recent (Victorian) invention, no? A product of Talibanesque social mores that also saw men and women bathe on different beaches, required ladies to wear gloves in public etc.
That aside, you honestly think there's benefit in harassing and discriminating transgender people, (who know perfectly well what bathroom is right for them, thank you very much).

And I suppose it's all God's fault for the debauchery?
I don't believe there's a deity to blame for anything, except as an abstract idea prompting people to be horrible to each other. As a literary character, though, your deity *can* be judged by His deeds as presented in the text.
 
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In the very near future nearly everyone will be dead. Problem solved.

Then you have nothing to worry about. Wait for the apocalypse and the rest of us will go on with our lives.

You didn't answer my political affiliation question though.
 
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Making things up as you go about in life does not make it the truth.

Oh! The knee-deep layers of irony in this statement, magnifiqué!

-CryptoLutheran
 
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The point is that heterosexuality is approved of.

So God approves of rape, premarital sex, inappropriate contentography, divorce, and lusting after other people? Surely heterosexuality has been disastrous for society, how can you support such sexual immorality as this?

-CryptoLutheran
 
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Under that god, those events which are considered to be evil were at one time good. You can't just pretend them away and claim god is so loving.



My freedom of religion is granted to me by a secular civil government. Your god explicitly says that I should not be practicing my religion as I do, and that the punishment for doing so is death. Read the 1st commandment again and tell me god gives me the right to freedom of religion.



Even if god did grant those rights, he then punishes you for all eternity for exercising them? Gee, thanks.

I will answer one point a unsubscribe to thread, I was clearly posting in the context of a secular perspective about Church and State.
I related to Christianity being banned, due to my expression and perspective.
What I was conveying is the hypocrisy of our political system.
The absence of religon includes your religon is not to be promoted in public arenas.
Still their seems to be a pass on Islam to practice where they desire.
Thank you I am turning off alerts on this thread.
 
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Wait, you name black people's concern about being targeted and killed by racist authorities in one breath with genocidal violence, AND deny the bodily autonomy of women in the same sentence by perpetuating the myth of live-birth abortions? Wow, a real hero here.

Compared to Biblical times, or even 100 years ago? Absolutely!


Sounds like a conspiracy to me, alongside the imaginary "war on Christmas".

You do realise gender-segregated bathrooms are a very recent (Victorian) invention, no? A product of Talibanesque social mores that also saw men and women bathe on different beaches, required ladies to wear gloves in public etc.
That aside, you honestly think there's benefit in harassing and discriminating transgender people, (who know perfectly well what bathroom is right for them, thank you very much).


I don't believe there's a deity to blame for anything, except as an abstract idea prompting people to be horrible to each other. As a literary character, though, your deity *can* be judged by His deeds as presented in the text.

Indoor plumbing could say the same, the notion of the opposite sex in bathrooms is degrading to a civilized society.
I raised a daughter and had enough concern for Her well being in same sex bathrooms ,along with my Boys as well.
The difference is I could go with my Boys in the bathroom
A genderless bathroom violatates a child's right of private use without a adult of the opposite sex in a rest room.

On your first responce choose your battle wisely.
Black genocide is perpetrated by planned parenthood.
The vast majority of clinics are in predominantly Black areas.
The aborition ratio for Blacks verses Whites is out of balance with the majority of aboritions preformed on Black Mothers , when you compare to population differential.

 
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Indoor plumbing could say the same, the notion of the opposite sex in bathrooms is degrading to a civilized society.
1. Oh good, then you aren't bothered by transmen using the appropriate restroom and joining you in the men's room, and transwomen going to their gender-appropriate bathroom in turn. Why didn't you say so?
2. Gender segregation as a mark of civilisation? Radical Islamists will be happy to hear that you agree with them - bring out the burkhas and segregated beaches!

Black genocide is perpetrated by planned parenthood.
This would be a valid concern if women were forced or bullied into aborting their pregnancies.
The closest we get to that is by the pressures of poverty - something that conservatives like yourself are far less concerned about than civil rights for cell clusters.
 
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I will answer one point a unsubscribe to thread, I was clearly posting in the context of a secular perspective about Church and State.
I related to Christianity being banned, due to my expression and perspective.
What I was conveying is the hypocrisy of our political system.
The absence of religon includes your religon is not to be promoted in public arenas.
Still their seems to be a pass on Islam to practice where they desire.
Thank you I am turning off alerts on this thread.

Whatever. Christian's have all the rights muslims do. Students can pray, witness, hold bible studies, etc. And I'll defend their right to do so.
 
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What I was conveying is the hypocrisy of our political system.
The absence of religon includes your religon is not to be promoted in public arenas.

I don't want my religion promoted by the state.

I do want a government that is neutral to religion that isn't promoting ANY religion. So if Christians can pray at council meetings and have monuments outside courthouses, then so can every one else. And if you want to put up a 10 Commandments monument outside a courthouse but you're not OK with that Satanist Baphomet statue next to it, then what you really want is religious privilege.
 
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Besides rape, there is also other deviant behavior. Because white women are choosing lesbianism apart from the norm, the white race is now in decline this year.

What you're saying is that interracial marriage and homosexuality are equivalent to rape.

God did not create people to be Homo's.

Which you followed up with a homophobic slur.

And you're saying your racist and homophobic ideology comes from God... in a thread you titled "God is not evil"? All you've succeeded in doing is convince me your version of God is evil.
 
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He is not responsible for evil. He created us good and able to distinguish lies from truth but we believed the lies and not His love why on earth would you hold God accountable for that?

God knew Eve would disobey him yet still set the stipulation.

It isn't hard to see why people draw that conclusion.
 
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MOD HAT ON

This thread is now closed permanently due to numerous issues with goading, flaming, racism, etc.

MOD HAT OFF
 
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