Abortion Is Murder

Robert6671 · Jun 27, 2019

I believe in a woman's choice but make no mistake abortion is murder. Here is picture of what a fetus looks like at 10 weeks...tell me that is not a human. Now I believe in a woman's right to chose because of the 10 year old girl raped and gets pregnant and a Christian politician believes she should be forced to carry it. Or the 18 year old. Or the mother who can not carry to term. But as for convenience sake...its murder. If you are not a victim of rape and can safely carry to term you can adopt your child out. Heck there are people who want a child and would pay your medical bills and everything for the child. And when you give birth if you still do not want the child just tell the hospital you do not have to take that child home. I am saying this now because some people I know think I am for abortion. Sorry not a chance...I understand its not black and white but again look at the picture if you can look at that and say that's not a human being then your either a liar, or delusional.

Monk Brendan · Jun 27, 2019

Robert6671 said:
I believe in a woman's choice but make no mistake abortion is murder. Here is picture of what a fetus looks like at 10 weeks...tell me that is not a human. Now I believe in a woman's right to chose because of the 10 year old girl raped and gets pregnant and a Christian politician believes she should be forced to carry it. Or the 18 year old. Or the mother who can not carry to term. But as for convenience sake...its murder. If you are not a victim of rape and can safely carry to term you can adopt your child out. Heck there are people who want a child and would pay your medical bills and everything for the child. And when you give birth if you still do not want the child just tell the hospital you do not have to take that child home. I am saying this now because some people I know think I am for abortion. Sorry not a chance...I understand its not black and white but again look at the picture if you can look at that and say that's not a human being then your either a liar, or delusional.

If you believe in a woman's right to kill her baby, do you believe in a man's right to rape women?

FaithLife1 · Jun 27, 2019

The rape victim can give the baby to an adoption agency, it doesn't have to die.

Messerve · Jun 27, 2019

Robert6671 said:
I believe in a woman's choice but make no mistake abortion is murder. Here is picture of what a fetus looks like at 10 weeks...tell me that is not a human. Now I believe in a woman's right to chose because of the 10 year old girl raped and gets pregnant and a Christian politician believes she should be forced to carry it. Or the 18 year old. Or the mother who can not carry to term. But as for convenience sake...its murder. If you are not a victim of rape and can safely carry to term you can adopt your child out. Heck there are people who want a child and would pay your medical bills and everything for the child. And when you give birth if you still do not want the child just tell the hospital you do not have to take that child home. I am saying this now because some people I know think I am for abortion. Sorry not a chance...I understand its not black and white but again look at the picture if you can look at that and say that's not a human being then your either a liar, or delusional.

Well, I think even rape is a reason to give the baby up for adoption - not murder. There are so many infertile couples out there, it's ridiculous to decide death is the only solution.

Now a very young girl is obviously a very tricky situation. But if the girl's life is at risk, there is still the possibility of a Caesarean section...

As an odd side note... How young can a girl technically get pregnant? 10 seems very young to me. I know boys can technically father a baby around 12 years old.

NothingIsImpossible · Jun 27, 2019

I seen a story earlier today about a pregnant woman who was shot in the stomach and the baby died. All the "pro-choice" people were up in arms about it. I told them "Why are you upset? It's not a baby right?"

Blade · Jun 27, 2019

It would seem many of this world and or the lord are under the impression THEY create life. I give you one "I prayed for this child, and the LORD has granted me what I asked of him." Now.. man and women come together.. that LIFE can only come for God. Rape? Ok... its wrong to take a life.

I am no ones God.. no one answers to me. Me? I would rather repent .. get it right HERE.. it wont be easier in heaven.. best to get it right here.

ewq1938 · Jun 27, 2019

Robert6671 said:
I believe in a woman's choice but make no mistake abortion is murder.

Yes of course. When a woman gets pregnant she is not growing a car or tree in her womb. It's a human and this is how humans reproduce.

Robert6671 · Jun 28, 2019

Monk Brendan said:
If you believe in a woman's right to kill her baby, do you believe in a man's right to rape women?

Here is a fact the bible does not acknowledge an unborn child as a human being. Quite the opposite, If a man causes a woman to miscarriage he pays a fine if he kills he is sentenced to death..that is in the bible.

Monk Brendan · Jun 28, 2019

Robert6671 said:
Here is a fact the bible does not acknowledge an unborn child as a human being. Quite the opposite, If a man causes a woman to miscarriage he pays a fine if he kills he is sentenced to death..that is in the bible.

Have you ever read the Visitation in Luke 1 when Mary came to Elizabeth.

They are certainly talking about their unborn children as if they were human beings.

Don't forget that Jesus was fully God and fully human in one person. To deny the human-ness of the unborn child is to say there was a time in His incarnation when Jesus was not a human being.

Would you like to try again?

Leet · Jun 29, 2019

Yes abortion is generally wromg but maybe those who are so black and white about it need a stone cold dose of reality right in their midst and see what happens.

SPF · Jul 1, 2019

Leet said:
Yes abortion is generally wromg but maybe those who are so black and white about it need a stone cold dose of reality right in their midst and see what happens.

Can you provide a little content to this post? In what situations is abortion generally immoral and in what situations is abortion generally moral?

How can abortion be immoral in one situations and moral in another? I'm speaking of the 98.5% of abortions that are committed for convenience reasons, in case you're wondering.

Robert6671 · Jul 3, 2019

You know this is not difficult. We all have the right to live and believe and worship how we chose. What we do not have the right to do and many Christians and Muslim are bad about this is force or cram our religious and moral beliefs down other peoples throats. There is a difference in preaching the word and getting on social media and saying I believe you live your life is a sin and your going to burn in hell. There is preaching and ministering to someone and then there is being a judgmental self righteous bigot. Man people preaching there religious beliefs can not seem to figure out the difference between the two

SPF · Jul 4, 2019

Robert6671 said:
You know this is not difficult. We all have the right to live and believe and worship how we chose. What we do not have the right to do and many Christians and Muslim are bad about this is force or cram our religious and moral beliefs down other peoples throats. There is a difference in preaching the word and getting on social media and saying I believe you live your life is a sin and your going to burn in hell. There is preaching and ministering to someone and then there is being a judgmental self righteous bigot. Man people preaching there religious beliefs can not seem to figure out the difference between the two

You’re making the mistake of assuming that 100% of people that are pro-life are Christians. They’re not.

People are pro-life because they believe in protecting the innocent. Here’s a simple argument for you.

1. Murdering innocent human beings is wrong.

2. The unborn are innocent human beings.

Therefore killing healthy, innocent, unborn human beings is wrong.

You’re just choosing to live in utter ignorance if you, especially as a professing Christian, can’t at least understand the basic reasons people are pro-life.

I agree that the law isn’t here to enforce everything I believe is moral and immoral. But I do believe one thing the law should do is seek to protect the innocent.

And for people with a third grade level understanding of science and Scripture, we understand that the unborn are innocent humans who should be protected.

GodLovesCats · Jul 5, 2019

FaithLife1 said:
The rape victim can give the baby to an adoption agency, it doesn't have to die.

Good grief. I have clearly explained many times in many threads just because mature women who simply did not want kids at the time are able to do this girls who are rapedand get pregnant can just put up with it for nine months and then give someone else her baby. As long as there are rape victims, there will be a need to keep some abortoins legal. I have always been convinced pro-lifers refuse to even consider how a pregnant teenager's life is totally ruined for many years.

SPF · Jul 5, 2019

ChristianForCats said:
As long as there are rape victims, there will be a need to keep some abortoins legal

Why is it ok to kill a baby because of how it can to exist?

In the case of a rape where a woman becomes pregnant there are two victims. The right answer is never to kill one of the victims.

You continue to spout inconsistencies by declaring that you believe a new human comes into existence at fertilization and has inherent moral worth and value, but then declaring its morally acceptable to then kill one of those innocent human beings because of the HOW in which they came to be.

I wouldn’t want to be you explaining that line of reasoning to God.

GodLovesCats · Jul 5, 2019

There is only one victim if the baby is not aborted. What is your plan for the rape victim who is now stuck carrying a baby she tried to avoid having and suffering both physically and mentally as a result?

SPF · Jul 5, 2019

ChristianForCats said:
There is only one victim if the baby is not aborted. What is your plan for the rape victim who is now stuck carrying a baby she tried to avoid having and suffering both physically and mentally as a result?

Red herring. I’m still waiting for you to get consistent in your belief system.

GodLovesCats · Jul 5, 2019

SPF said:
Red herring. I’m still waiting for you to get consistent in your belief system.

I can try to be more consistent if you answer my question. Why do you call it a red herring?

SPF · Jul 5, 2019

ChristianForCats said:
I can try to be more consistent if you answer my question. Why do you call it a red herring?

Because whether the government or private agencies should provide care for pregnant women has 100% no bearing at all upon the morality of abortion.

The morality of abortion stands or falls with how we understand the nature of the human life inside the womb.

And you have been completely inconsistent in what you’ve said.

You’ve agreed that a new human being comes into existence at fertilization. You’ve agreed that all humans possess inherent moral worth and value. And you’ve agreed that abortions performed on healthy babies that were conceived outside of rape is immoral.

Yet you say that abortion by a raped woman is not immoral. This is inconsistent because the only difference between a married pregnant woman who intentionally conceived and a pregnant rape victim is the HOW in which the baby was conceived.

The HOW in which a baby is conceived has no bearing upon their moral worth and value in the eyes of God.

Therefore, your position is indefensible and inconsistent.

GodLovesCats · Jul 5, 2019

SPF said:
Because whether the government or private agencies should provide care for pregnant women has 100% no bearing at all upon the morality of abortion.

Do you believe the government and private agencies failing to provide care for rape victims and their kids in utero is immoral? That is the question. How would you make sure the mom is being treated morally if a rapist impregnated her? Morality is not limited to the baby. If you mistreat the mom, that is immoral.

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