LDS Damnation for Refusal to Become Mormon

Phoebe Ann said:

Father, Son, and Holy Ghost are NOT sepatate created Gods. God is one uncreated being.

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Oh really, then why use the plural words us, our, we, etc. when describing God?

Phoebe Ann said:

God doesn't give Christians dead faith!!! Mormons don't even follow our wonderful Savior.

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Faith without works is dead faith.

He is the way said:

Oh really, then why use the plural words us, our, we, etc. when describing God?

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Father, Son and Holy Spirit!!!

mmksparbud said:

See Post # 38

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How many and who will God have mercy on?:


(Old Testament | Deuteronomy 5:10)

10 And shewing mercy unto thousands of them that love me and keep my commandments.

So it is thousands (not millions, or Billions) of those who LOVE Him. That seems contrary to the link posted on #38

He is the way said:

How many and who will God have mercy on?:


(Old Testament | Deuteronomy 5:10)

10 And shewing mercy unto thousands of them that love me and keep my commandments.

So it is thousands (not millions, or Billions) of those who LOVE Him. That seems contrary to the link posted on #38

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Well------I couldn't figure out what you were talking about---I meant post #308--I changed the post.
So sorry.

mmksparbud said:

Father, Son and Holy Spirit!!!

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Three with the same purpose.

He is the way said:

Three with the same purpose.

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No pother God. Believing there are other gods violates the commandment.

He is the way said:

Three with the same purpose.

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Yep, just like Larry, Curly, and Moe, right? They were great in that old short where Curly pretends to be a mummy. Way more believable than anything in Mormonism.

mmksparbud said:

No pother God. Believing there are other gods violates the commandment.

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No it does not, you made that up. The commandment states:

(Old Testament | Exodus 20:3)

3 Thou shalt have no other gods before me.

It means that He is the highest God. Have you heard the term most high God?:

(Old Testament | Genesis 14:18 - 22)

18 And Melchizedek king of Salem brought forth bread and wine: and he was the priest of the most high God.
19 And he blessed him, and said, Blessed be Abram of the most high God, possessor of heaven and earth:
20 And blessed be the most high God, which hath delivered thine enemies into thy hand. And he gave him tithes of all.
21 And the king of Sodom said unto Abram, Give me the persons, and take the goods to thyself.
22 And Abram said to the king of Sodom, I have lift up mine hand unto the LORD, the most high God, the possessor of heaven and earth,

Also there is this:

(Old Testament | Psalms 82:1)

1 GOD standeth in the congregation of the mighty; he judgeth among the gods.

Phoebe Ann said:

Because the true God is three Persons; He is not three gods.

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A man and his wife are also two persons, but one flesh together:

(New Testament | Ephesians 5:29 - 33)

29 For no man ever yet hated his own flesh; but nourisheth and cherisheth it, even as the Lord the church:
30 For we are members of his body, of his flesh, and of his bones.
31 For this cause shall a man leave his father and mother, and shall be joined unto his wife, and they two shall be one flesh.
32 This is a great mystery: but I speak concerning Christ and the church.
33 Nevertheless let every one of you in particular so love his wife even as himself; and the wife see that she reverence her husband.

How are the Son and the Father one:

(New Testament | John 17:21 - 22)

21 That they all may be one; as thou, Father, art in me, and I in thee, that they also may be one in us: that the world may believe that thou hast sent me.
22 And the glory which thou gavest me I have given them; that they may be one, even as we are one:

Phoebe Ann said:

God gives Christians living faith.

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Works make faith alive:

(New Testament | James 2:14 - 20)

14 What doth it profit, my brethren, though a man say he hath faith, and have not works? can faith save him?
15 If a brother or sister be naked, and destitute of daily food,
16 And one of you say unto them, Depart in peace, be ye warmed and filled; notwithstanding ye give them not those things which are needful to the body; what doth it profit?
17 Even so faith, if it hath not works, is dead, being alone.
18 Yea, a man may say, Thou hast faith, and I have works: shew me thy faith without thy works, and I will shew thee my faith by my works.
19 Thou believest that there is one God; thou doest well: the devils also believe, and tremble.
20 But wilt thou know, O vain man, that faith without works is dead?

Phoebe Ann said:

Mormons describe three gods who DON'T have the same purpose. Does your holy ghost have eternal life and a continuation of the seeds forever?

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They all have one purpose:

(Pearl of Great Price | Moses 1:39)

39 For behold, this is my work and my glory—to bring to pass the immortality and eternal life of man.

mmksparbud said:

See Post # 308

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Was God speaking to 2 other beings standing by him, or was he speaking to himself and the other 2 persons inside of him?

Phoebe Ann said:

Obedience is the basic law of heaven, and obedience to specific laws will result in specific blessings, culminating in the greatest blessing, as Elder Marion G. Romney explained: “The perfection upon which exaltation hangs, I repeat, is an individual matter. It is conditioned upon the observance of celestial laws as they apply to earth life. The Word of Wisdom is one of them, so also are chastity, tithing, observance of the Sabbath day, prayer, honesty, industry, love of God and fellow men, patience, kindness, charity, and all the rest of the principles and ordinances of the gospel of Jesus Christ. Each individual who observes one or more of these laws shall receive the blessings predicated thereon, and each Church member who will, with all the energy of his soul, diligently strive to live them all, shall receive the blessings predicated upon such striving. Eternal life, the greatest gift of God, is that blessing, and it will follow the living of the gospel as the night the day, regardless of statistics or averages, or of what others think or say or do.” (In Conference Report, Oct. 1956, pp. 15–16; see also Enrichment G in the Appendix.)
“Section 130, Items of Instruction,” Doctrine and Covenants Student Manual (2002), 321–24

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This is a sound teaching, sounds like James in the bible.

He is the way said:

No it does not, you made that up. The commandment states:

(Old Testament | Exodus 20:3)

3 Thou shalt have no other gods before me.

It means that He is the highest God. Have you heard the term most high God?:

(Old Testament | Genesis 14:18 - 22)

18 And Melchizedek king of Salem brought forth bread and wine: and he was the priest of the most high God.
19 And he blessed him, and said, Blessed be Abram of the most high God, possessor of heaven and earth:
20 And blessed be the most high God, which hath delivered thine enemies into thy hand. And he gave him tithes of all.
21 And the king of Sodom said unto Abram, Give me the persons, and take the goods to thyself.
22 And Abram said to the king of Sodom, I have lift up mine hand unto the LORD, the most high God, the possessor of heaven and earth,

Also there is this:

(Old Testament | Psalms 82:1)

1 GOD standeth in the congregation of the mighty; he judgeth among the gods.

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LOL!! I am not the one that can't read!! You guys are not interested in the actual meaning of words and phrases--esp. Jewish ones. Whenever anyone disagrees with you just call them liars and say they make things up!! It never occurs to you that it is you JS and his so called prophets that are making things up and lying to you! As you will find out one day and it will b e too late!! It is not truth you want--but affirmation that your JS was really a prophet of God---he was not and had no idea of what the Jews were talking about!

Jews were constantly backsliding and getting into idolatry. They had spent 400 years with the Egyptians and all their gods and they were surrounded by nations that had many pagan gods. The concept of God being the most high is that He is the only real, true God amongst all those pagan ones---not that there really are other gods.


I like the translation אֱלֹהִים as 'Power' or 'Powerful Ones.' That covers the different possible meanings of G-d, false gods, powerful people or angels. Those who are either powerful or are falsely thought to be powerful in this world.

In a Kabbalistic sense when G-d is referred to as אֱלֹהִים that represents G-d acting within nature, while Y-H-V-H represents G-d transcending nature.

Psalm 82 poetically plays on the different meanings of אֱלֹהִים to exhort judges to judge properly and support the weak and poor rather than favoring the rich and powerful. Here is my non-literal translation.

G-d 'stands' in the midst of judges and will judge them.

How long will you (bad) judges favor the wicked? Give justice to the weak, the orphan and the poor. Rescue the needy and powerless from the hands of the wicked.

They (corrupt judges) do not know nor do they understand that they walk in darkness.

I thought all judges were G-dly and powerful sons of the most High (i.e. good and righteous) But like all men, even powerful princes you will die.

Please G-d judge the world, you control all the nations.


This has been posted several times and you ignore it so you can believe whatever you want. I don't make things up---I don't need to. God deals in reality, not fiction.

Peter1000 said:

Was God speaking to 2 other beings standing by him, or was he speaking to himself and the other 2 persons inside of him?

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"Let us"---that means all three were there--Jesus did the creating it says all things were created by Him, but all 3 work together. The Spirit moved upon the face of the waters, Jesus created, the Father is always with them as their source of power.