Homeland Security admits it's using abhorrent conditions at detention centers to deter migration
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Migration is what ducks, monarch butterflies, gnus, and whales do.
Illegally entering other countries is what people often do.
Illegally entering other countries is what people often do.
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Here's an example of the real people involved that represents a great many:
(click on volume button in video window to hear)
WATCH: What asylum-seekers meet when they try to cross legally
Watch at least the first minute....
So many are true refugees instead of economic migrants. And Mexico isn't safe for so many of them.
We are not yet to this:
Revelation 21:4 He will wipe away every tear from their eyes, and there will be no more death or mourning or crying or pain, for the former things have passed away."
So, God's command is this:
Matthew 7:12 In everything, then, do to others as you would have them do to you. For this is the essence of the Law and the Prophets.
Just as it was long ago:
Leviticus 19:34 You must treat the foreigner living among you as native-born and love him as yourself, for you were foreigners in the land of Egypt. I am the LORD your God.
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I understand this. And, honestly, I am not sure what the solution is to this. But unchecked immigration seems socially and economically unwise.
I am also glad to be reminded of pleas for clemency and grace.
But at the same time, describing what is primarily illegal immigration as migration, as though this were a natural process unfolding with gazelles or wildebeests, is not truly accurate, either, and does not reflect the legal, political, social, humanitarian, and economic complexity of simply allowing as many people in as wish to enter, minus any vetting, legality, or order.
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The report, first obtained by NBC News, detailed the conditions during a May 7 tour of a border station in the El Paso sector and found that only four showers were available for 756 immigrants. Additionally, over half of the immigrants were being held outside in the Texas heat, while the immigrants inside were being kept in cells at over five times their capacity. One cell meant for a maximum of 35 people held 155 adult males with only one toilet and sink. The cell was so overcrowded that the internal temperatures reached over 80 degrees and the men were unable to lay down to sleep.
Such conditions are absolutely unacceptable for humans.
Such conditions are absolutely unacceptable for humans.
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The U.S. helped create this breakdown of El Salvador, Honduras...into violence and gangs, through policies that encouraged the drug trade for instance, and sending too many guns and not enough educational aid in the 80s and 90s.
Cardinal Sarah alluded that nations that helped create problems in other nations ought to help fix those problems -- in those nations(!). He keeps the category of 'refugee' as distinct from 'economic migrant'
Cardinal Sarah: every nation has a right to distinguish between refugees and economic migrants | Catholic Herald
Cardinal Sarah alluded that nations that helped create problems in other nations ought to help fix those problems -- in those nations(!). He keeps the category of 'refugee' as distinct from 'economic migrant'
Cardinal Sarah: every nation has a right to distinguish between refugees and economic migrants | Catholic Herald
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Wow...I can't say I've ever seen a more blatant misrepresentation of wording.
Since Border Patrol only processes aliens, and the only other option is to not arrest them for entering illegally....they clearly aren't talking about the conditions at their own facilities when they say...
"...if they do not have a consequence delivery system, either prosecution or ICE detention, the flow will increase."
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Pretty sure that whining about "lawbreakers" is exactly the same kind of rationalizing that Nazis used in the '30s and '40s when they were taking Jewish people to their concentration camps.
Law without compassion or humanity is law not worth having. I prefer the guidelines from the verses in my signature.
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Law without compassion or humanity is law not worth having. I prefer the guidelines from the verses in my signature.
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They did the same whining about lawbreakers back during the Civil Rights Movement. The "law and order" crowd has always hidden behind the idea that their morals and ethics are hamstrung by the law... of course, until they don't like the law, then they just break the law and encourage the breaking of the law. The reality is much worse of course, they think their inhumane treatment of people is moral and right and follow the misguided view that they're doing something good (unsurprising, how many Nazis and segregationists really believed they were doing something wrong). However, nowadays they justify their inhumane treatment by arguing that since it is not as bad as something done before, then their conduct is acceptable.
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If these concentration camps are such luxurious vacation spots for the migrants we put there, I suggest Donny put his money where his big fat mouth is: put Barron in one of the camps for a while. We'll see how luxurious and wonderful they are, real fast.
I don't wish ill on Barron. His father's crimes against humanity aren't his fault. But his tune would change real fast if it was his son being denied medical supplies, sitting in filled diapers, without adequate food and water, crammed in with a mass of humanity.
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I don't wish ill on Barron. His father's crimes against humanity aren't his fault. But his tune would change real fast if it was his son being denied medical supplies, sitting in filled diapers, without adequate food and water, crammed in with a mass of humanity.
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