Want to Be Less Racist? Move to Hawaii

Strathos said:

No thanks. Not particularly fond of tsunamis and volcanoes.

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But think of the short sleeve shirt collection you could amass!

hislegacy said:

Of course you will not find great diversity either. Same with Hawaii

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Ha.
Asian 37.3%
White 26.7%
Two or More Races 23.0%
Hawaiian/Pacific Islander 9.9%
Black 2.6%
Native American 0.5%

Hawai'i is very racially diverse. I agree with jardiniere's point that the diversity helps reduce racist ideology.
Just returned from 10 days there. Amazing place.

Can't believe this thread. Hawaiians are notorious for their racism against Haloes (the soulless ones, i.e., white people).

SummerMadness said:

Want to Be Less Racist? Move to Hawaii

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Someone once told me that that what you are describing is prejudice, not racism. When I was in Hawaii, I noticed there was a lot of racism against white people, especially from the native Polynesians. But you will find racism and bigotry everywhere. Thankfully, true cases of racism is not common and ought to be denounced in every situation.

Chesterton said:

Can't believe this thread. Hawaiians are notorious for their racism against Haloes (the soulless ones, i.e., white people).

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No they are not. And furthermore, haole means non-Polynesian, alien, foreign; not white. And having lived there for several years, I suspect most of the natives were prejudiced against military, at least that's what I've seen. And our military is notorious for disparaging native populations wherever they go, so I'm suspecting some sort of projection, frankly.

Chesterton said:

Can't believe this thread. Hawaiians are notorious for their racism against Haloes (the soulless ones, i.e., white people).

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I see where you are coming from. While stationed at MCAS Kaneohe Bay I found that many of the locals had a lot of prejudice against outsiders (anyone not from the island). Furthermore, they despised the military. Furthermore, of all the military branches they despised the most, it was the Marines. Now I am not saying that all local Hawaiians have the same views, it is just that as a U.S Marine "outsider", my time there wasn't pleasant. When I first got on station we had a safety brief where we were briefed of the local gangs who racially targeted white people. Fortunately I was not harassed as much because I am Hispanic. But my other, more white looking, comrades had received much more harassment.

jardiniere said:

No they are not. And furthermore, haole means non-Polynesian, alien, foreign; not white. And having lived there for several years, I suspect most of the natives were prejudiced against military, at least that's what I've seen. And our military is notorious for disparaging native populations wherever they go, so I'm suspecting some sort of projection, frankly.

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And that disparaging is not just foreign and ethnic... we see it in military towns across the country. But it goes both ways. Locals are not always welcoming toward the military. They want the money from the base... but not the men and women who bring it.

jardiniere said:

No they are not. And furthermore, haole means non-Polynesian, alien, foreign; not white. And having lived there for several years, I suspect most of the natives were prejudiced against military, at least that's what I've seen. And our military is notorious for disparaging native populations wherever they go, so I'm suspecting some sort of projection, frankly.

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Although I cannot say that all Hawaiians are racists, do not be deceived by believing that Hawaii doesn't have problems with racism, bigotry, and prejudice. Whites are the minority in Hawaii and they are the primary targets of racism and discrimination. Yes, Hawaii is a racial paradise....if you are not white.
Hawaii Suffering From Racial Prejudice

Pommer said:

Well, we got religion, for that!

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jardiniere said:

No they are not. And furthermore, haole means non-Polynesian, alien, foreign; not white.

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Well the poster beneath your post says he was not bothered as much because he's Hispanic, so...

And having lived there for several years, I suspect most of the natives were prejudiced against military, at least that's what I've seen. And our military is notorious for disparaging native populations wherever they go, so I'm suspecting some sort of projection, frankly.

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If you think I'm projecting, just use the internet. Search "Hawaiian racism". The amount and level of ugliness is shocking.

(° ͡ ͜ ͡ʖ ͡ °) (ᵔᴥᵔʋ) said:

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Love that episode.
I put the fish on my belly... so you know where I stand.

jayem said:

While still a minority, interracial marriages have risen steadily over the last several decades.. This is from Pew Research:

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And correspondingly, the number multiracial children has also risen:

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If these trends continue (and I see no reason why they would not,) in several centuries, most of the US population could be mixed race. I know traditionalists will deplore the idea of increasing racial/ethnic homogenization. But it's probably inevitable.

OTOH, Homo sapiens is an instinctively tribalistic species. Even if all people in the future are of mixed race, we will just find other reasons to despise and distrust each other.

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In several centuries, there's good reason to believe we'll all be dead.

Didaskalos said:

One more thing. I am highly suspicious of people who claim they are free from what I consider a universal tendency in all men

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All too many times I have heard someone say "I don't have a racist bone in my body but ........" What follows is a racist rant ---- every single time.

Pommer said:

Well, we got religion, for that!

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Human nature does not need religion to despise fellow humans.

Didaskalos said:

Love that episode.
I put the fish on my belly... so you know where I stand.

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Chesterton said:

Well the poster beneath your post says he was not bothered as much because he's Hispanic, so...

If you think I'm projecting, just use the internet. Search "Hawaiian racism". The amount and level of ugliness is shocking.

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Yep. While walking down the street a group of Polynesian men threw a handful of loose change at my buddy (who was white) and didn't bother me (Hispanic).

JackRT said:

All too many times I have heard someone say "I don't have a racist bone in my body but ........" What follows is a racist rant ---- every single time.

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I don't have a racist bone in my body but...Italian sausage is better than Polish sausage.

Semper-Fi said:

When I was in Hawaii,
there was locals, tourists,
then there was haoles.

Back then haoles where not much
welcome on the local side of the island .

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K-Bay?

(° ͡ ͜ ͡ʖ ͡ °) (ᵔᴥᵔʋ) said:

Someone once told me that that what you are describing is prejudice, not racism. When I was in Hawaii, I noticed there was a lot of racism against white people, especially from the native Polynesians.

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The nerve!
After we freed them from...themselves!

A racist person is one who believes in racism, the doctrine that one's own racial group is superior or that a particular racial group is inferior to the others.

How would a move to Hawaii make any particular people (whether they be racist or not) less racist?

We are told not to know others after the flesh even though the LORD acknowledges,

The LORD seeth not as man seeth; for man looketh on the outward appearance, but the LORD looketh on the heart.

Wherefore henceforth know we no man after the flesh: yea, though we have known Christ after the flesh, yet now henceforth know we him no more

People seem to love dwelling on the flesh (the outward man) and arranging things around the different shades of the flesh (and not after the inward man).