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Hello Christian Forums, I am a new member here. My age is 23 and I’m a Christian guy. I want to totally walk the Christian walk. If I’m remembered after my death, I want to be remembered for kindness and especially for my faith and trust in the Lord Jesus Christ. While I’m aware that a man doesn’t need a wife to be complete, it’s still my biggest dream in this life - to be a husband and dad.

I want a Godly woman that I can spend my life with. I want to share happiness and grief with her, be there to love and support her, and to receive love and support in return. Intimacy would be great, but mainly I want somebody to go to church with, take road trips with, and to play board games with. Somebody that I can’t wait to get home to after work.

I want children. I want to watch a young child grow up in a Godly home where the Lord Jesus Christ is exalted. I want children to love and nurture, to discipline when needed, and to make memories with.

I understand that I’m doing a great deal of idealizing here. I understand that marriage and children takes dedication and sacrifice; it is hard work. But it’s my stance that practically anything worth doing in this life is hard work. I’m ready for all the joys and heartaches that are involved in having a family. I want to man up to the challenge.

And yet, all this said, my chances of having a family of my own are very slim. Here I sit at 23 years old. I struggle with social problems. I don’t know what it is; people says it’s social anxiety (including my counselor), but I disagree. I still struggle to order my food at restaurants, and I can’t make any friends. Obviously, I’ve never been on a date or had a girlfriend. It just seems so impossible at this point. I don’t see myself every changing much. I’ve tried and tried and tried but it’s just how I am. My counselor has tried too, but in the end, I only improve a little, if any.

I am getting rather hopeless. I don’t want to idolize marriage, but it’s important to me. I think God put it on my heart to be a husband and father because I want it so much more than most peers my age. I don’t want to be the most important person in my life. I want to Lord to be at the top and then a family to be next in line. Is there any hope, friends? What can I do to either change my situation or accept it and move on?
 

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Hello Christian Forums, I am a new member here. My age is 23 and I’m a Christian guy. I want to totally walk the Christian walk. If I’m remembered after my death, I want to be remembered for kindness and especially for my faith and trust in the Lord Jesus Christ. While I’m aware that a man doesn’t need a wife to be complete, it’s still my biggest dream in this life - to be a husband and dad.

I want a Godly woman that I can spend my life with. I want to share happiness and grief with her, be there to love and support her, and to receive love and support in return. Intimacy would be great, but mainly I want somebody to go to church with, take road trips with, and to play board games with. Somebody that I can’t wait to get home to after work.

I want children. I want to watch a young child grow up in a Godly home where the Lord Jesus Christ is exalted. I want children to love and nurture, to discipline when needed, and to make memories with.

I understand that I’m doing a great deal of idealizing here. I understand that marriage and children takes dedication and sacrifice; it is hard work. But it’s my stance that practically anything worth doing in this life is hard work. I’m ready for all the joys and heartaches that are involved in having a family. I want to man up to the challenge.

And yet, all this said, my chances of having a family of my own are very slim. Here I sit at 23 years old. I struggle with social problems. I don’t know what it is; people says it’s social anxiety (including my counselor), but I disagree. I still struggle to order my food at restaurants, and I can’t make any friends. Obviously, I’ve never been on a date or had a girlfriend. It just seems so impossible at this point. I don’t see myself every changing much. I’ve tried and tried and tried but it’s just how I am. My counselor has tried too, but in the end, I only improve a little, if any.

I am getting rather hopeless. I don’t want to idolize marriage, but it’s important to me. I think God put it on my heart to be a husband and father because I want it so much more than most peers my age. I don’t want to be the most important person in my life. I want to Lord to be at the top and then a family to be next in line. Is there any hope, friends? What can I do to either change my situation or accept it and move on?

Forgive me for what I'm going to say:

You are only 23. Trust me, life gets better after 30.

When you are willing to change yourself and conquer your shyness, you will.
 
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Forgive me for what I'm going to say:

You are only 23. Trust me, life gets better after 30.

When you are willing to change yourself and conquer your shyness, you will.

Why? Why does it get better? How?
 
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Hey.. for me.. everything is and about His word. JESUS is real. More real then anyone we have ever known. For me.. desires.. Jesus or GOD said through Christ that only spoke what the Father said.. what ever you desire when you pray.. believe you receive it you shall have it. I love the old song "Your desire is the confirmation the destination is there God wouldn't put it in your spirit if it wasn't going nowhere
So set your sights on the promises and don't you be scared For your desire is the confirmation the destination is there"

Its a song yet it goes in line with the word. WHERE do you think YOUR desires came from? :) And "problems?" Did not Jesus die and rise? is it not written in isa 53 5 and 1st Peter 2 24 by HIS strips we are healed? See what ever problem I have? I see what HIS word says. Like classic fear. In fear.. I say "no God has not given me the spirit of fear but of power and love and a sound mind".

See your Father GOD.. EVERYTHING you need is Him.. think. The word says.. the PEACE OF GOD, Be STRONG IN THE POWER OF HIS MIGHT, THE JOY OF THE LORD IS YOUR STRENGTH, PUT ON THE WHOLE ARMOR OF GOD.. on and on .. its all HIM!

He loves you.. no matter what the WORLD says you have. You DONT have to keep it.. Find a Church that loves the WORD.. and the gifts.. Jesus said in LUKE.. ask the Father for the holy Spirit.. and the Father will give it. I DONT care what man says.. Thats what JESUS said.. so ask. then KNOW He hears you. As He said to Sarah.. what is to hard for the lord?

GOD IS YOUR FATHER! So ask.. then KNOW He hears you.. make sure it lines up with the word :)
 
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Why? Why does it get better? How?
Maturity and experience help you to be more objective about yourself and life generally.
 
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Hello Christian Forums, I am a new member here. My age is 23 and I’m a Christian guy. I want to totally walk the Christian walk. If I’m remembered after my death, I want to be remembered for kindness and especially for my faith and trust in the Lord Jesus Christ. While I’m aware that a man doesn’t need a wife to be complete, it’s still my biggest dream in this life - to be a husband and dad.

I want a Godly woman that I can spend my life with. I want to share happiness and grief with her, be there to love and support her, and to receive love and support in return. Intimacy would be great, but mainly I want somebody to go to church with, take road trips with, and to play board games with. Somebody that I can’t wait to get home to after work.

I want children. I want to watch a young child grow up in a Godly home where the Lord Jesus Christ is exalted. I want children to love and nurture, to discipline when needed, and to make memories with.

I understand that I’m doing a great deal of idealizing here. I understand that marriage and children takes dedication and sacrifice; it is hard work. But it’s my stance that practically anything worth doing in this life is hard work. I’m ready for all the joys and heartaches that are involved in having a family. I want to man up to the challenge.

And yet, all this said, my chances of having a family of my own are very slim. Here I sit at 23 years old. I struggle with social problems. I don’t know what it is; people says it’s social anxiety (including my counselor), but I disagree. I still struggle to order my food at restaurants, and I can’t make any friends. Obviously, I’ve never been on a date or had a girlfriend. It just seems so impossible at this point. I don’t see myself every changing much. I’ve tried and tried and tried but it’s just how I am. My counselor has tried too, but in the end, I only improve a little, if any.

I am getting rather hopeless. I don’t want to idolize marriage, but it’s important to me. I think God put it on my heart to be a husband and father because I want it so much more than most peers my age. I don’t want to be the most important person in my life. I want to Lord to be at the top and then a family to be next in line. Is there any hope, friends? What can I do to either change my situation or accept it and move on?
I'm 99.9 percent certain that what you expect a marriage to be like will not happen. Many a happy man is so after they are no longer married.
 
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I'm 99.9 percent certain that what you expect a marriage to be like will not happen. Many a happy man is so after they are no longer married.

:oldthumbsup: Been there, done that.
 
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While I’m aware that a man doesn’t need a wife to be complete,

"A man isn't complete until he's married...then he's finished." -Victor Borge

Intimacy would be great, but...

Don't ever tell a woman that. They thrive and bloom on intimacy. If you truly want all the things you mentioned you need to care for the intimacy needs of your wife. And you must allow them for yourself as well. Intimacy, in all it's expressions, is the glue that holds a marriage together.

I understand that I’m doing a great deal of idealizing here.

You can cure that by having some frank discussions with some married men.
 
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I'm 99.9 percent certain that what you expect a marriage to be like will not happen. Many a happy man is so after they are no longer married.

If you marry the wrong person, it's hell!

If you marry the right one, it's heaven!

I married the right one 28 years ago, and I can't believe how fast the time has gone by.
Lots of troubles, lots of challenges, still lots of both, but God carries us through and is leading us more and more into His purposes.

Both of us know that He arranged for us to meet, and He made it clear that He intended it to be permanent. I had my doubts, but...He finally convinced me.

I probably had some social anxiety, and was pretty geeky, but He matched me up with a lady who was also geeky, and we understood each other right away. We still do.

Since I was 18, I prayed for a woman who would love me, and whom I would love, and God matched us up. There were several others I dated, and they provided some very helpful experience, but none of them was a good match (although I really wanted a couple of them). After 8 years of that, He brought us together, and the rest is (very quiet) history.

Our 2 kids know the Lord, and I can truly say that "I have no greater joy than to know that my children walk in truth". They also have different forms of autism, and we all continue to deal with the challenges of that, but we know that God uses all things for His good purposes.

I don't have any advice for your social anxiety, but keep trying to find a way through it. God can help with that also.
 
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Maturity and experience help you to be more objective about yourself and life generally.

One of the reason you need to be more objective after 30 is looking at the mirror. We are built for reproducing young not for aging gracefully.

I would rather have to chance to date a young woman than to have maturity and experience knowing it is not going to happen.

Still, it is just generalities. It is largely up to us what we make of it. Just most people do not bother living at max.
 
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You have got to look to God for your hope. Meditate on the promises of God, let the bible give you hope and the faith for good things to come. It is great too that you are not taking anything for granted. When you get married it will truly be a Godsent blessing.
 
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Hello Christian Forums, I am a new member here. My age is 23 and I’m a Christian guy. I want to totally walk the Christian walk. If I’m remembered after my death, I want to be remembered for kindness and especially for my faith and trust in the Lord Jesus Christ. While I’m aware that a man doesn’t need a wife to be complete, it’s still my biggest dream in this life - to be a husband and dad.

I want a Godly woman that I can spend my life with. I want to share happiness and grief with her, be there to love and support her, and to receive love and support in return. Intimacy would be great, but mainly I want somebody to go to church with, take road trips with, and to play board games with. Somebody that I can’t wait to get home to after work.

I want children. I want to watch a young child grow up in a Godly home where the Lord Jesus Christ is exalted. I want children to love and nurture, to discipline when needed, and to make memories with.

I understand that I’m doing a great deal of idealizing here. I understand that marriage and children takes dedication and sacrifice; it is hard work. But it’s my stance that practically anything worth doing in this life is hard work. I’m ready for all the joys and heartaches that are involved in having a family. I want to man up to the challenge.

And yet, all this said, my chances of having a family of my own are very slim. Here I sit at 23 years old. I struggle with social problems. I don’t know what it is; people says it’s social anxiety (including my counselor), but I disagree. I still struggle to order my food at restaurants, and I can’t make any friends. Obviously, I’ve never been on a date or had a girlfriend. It just seems so impossible at this point. I don’t see myself every changing much. I’ve tried and tried and tried but it’s just how I am. My counselor has tried too, but in the end, I only improve a little, if any.

I am getting rather hopeless. I don’t want to idolize marriage, but it’s important to me. I think God put it on my heart to be a husband and father because I want it so much more than most peers my age. I don’t want to be the most important person in my life. I want to Lord to be at the top and then a family to be next in line. Is there any hope, friends? What can I do to either change my situation or accept it and move on?
If you have social problems and do not learn how to control it how can you make your wife happy? How can you build the type of relationship that you describe? These things take social skills and your goals are really a bit selfish in the sense is that this is what you want to make you happy. For this to become reality you have to find the maturity within to take control of the situations. Maybe read some books on friendship and start pursuing friends as a 1st step and get some experience in building relationships and see if you might be able to grow up a little. Overcoming some heavy predispositions is something we all have to deal with. Seems you have a lot to overcome if you want to have the type of life you described.
 
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One of the reason you need to be more objective after 30 is looking at the mirror. We are built for reproducing young not for aging gracefully.

I would rather have to chance to date a young woman than to have maturity and experience knowing it is not going to happen.

Still, it is just generalities. It is largely up to us what we make of it. Just most people do not bother living at max.
I have a friend who was born when his parents were 36, and he was their first child.
 
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Your behavior will likely change as you grow older because you'll learn more about people and understand that last everyone has shortcomings. You can start learning to make friends by exploring your hobbies, then you'll have something to talk about when you meet people who share similar passion as you do, life is. journey, you'll learn things as you grow older. Don't be hard on yourself, God bless
 
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Its fairly common to idealize something when you haven't experienced the first steps towards getting there. The big difficulty is that the differences between idealization and the reality of those initial steps are huge, thus many are don't start, or upon starting when they encounter adversity, they walk away. The thing is, those first steps are a huge deal. In some cases, those first steps are really really tiny, and it can seem like no progress is being made. In addition, sometimes those periods of no progress can seemingly go on for a very long period of time. The thing is, even without obvious progress, one is often building the supports necessary for future steps... but most don't see this until long after it becomes part of their history.

Fwiw, I'd recommend making tiny steps, celebrate the successes, and when failures occur which they will, turn them into learning experiences for the next go round. Even a small failed step in one direction to learn what not to do, is better than the hopelessness that can come about from standing still.
 
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The problem is the social problem. You need to attack that to gain the interpersonal skills that a husband and father will need.

The good news is you have time to do that, if you are dilligent about chipping away at the social issues. I'd love the chance to be 23 again.
 
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Hello Christian Forums, I am a new member here. My age is 23 and I’m a Christian guy. I want to totally walk the Christian walk. If I’m remembered after my death, I want to be remembered for kindness and especially for my faith and trust in the Lord Jesus Christ. While I’m aware that a man doesn’t need a wife to be complete, it’s still my biggest dream in this life - to be a husband and dad.

I want a Godly woman that I can spend my life with. I want to share happiness and grief with her, be there to love and support her, and to receive love and support in return. Intimacy would be great, but mainly I want somebody to go to church with, take road trips with, and to play board games with. Somebody that I can’t wait to get home to after work.

I want children. I want to watch a young child grow up in a Godly home where the Lord Jesus Christ is exalted. I want children to love and nurture, to discipline when needed, and to make memories with.

I understand that I’m doing a great deal of idealizing here. I understand that marriage and children takes dedication and sacrifice; it is hard work. But it’s my stance that practically anything worth doing in this life is hard work. I’m ready for all the joys and heartaches that are involved in having a family. I want to man up to the challenge.

And yet, all this said, my chances of having a family of my own are very slim. Here I sit at 23 years old. I struggle with social problems. I don’t know what it is; people says it’s social anxiety (including my counselor), but I disagree. I still struggle to order my food at restaurants, and I can’t make any friends. Obviously, I’ve never been on a date or had a girlfriend. It just seems so impossible at this point. I don’t see myself every changing much. I’ve tried and tried and tried but it’s just how I am. My counselor has tried too, but in the end, I only improve a little, if any.

I am getting rather hopeless. I don’t want to idolize marriage, but it’s important to me. I think God put it on my heart to be a husband and father because I want it so much more than most peers my age. I don’t want to be the most important person in my life. I want to Lord to be at the top and then a family to be next in line. Is there any hope, friends? What can I do to either change my situation or accept it and move on?

There is always hope! and also you are still very young and male and have heaps of time. :) Males don't have an egg timer ticking away to find a mate. So you can be 40 or 50 and still find a wife who is 30 depending on your provideyness.

Ask the lord to help you with your anxiety. I used to have it as well in my 20s and he threw me in the deep end with conversing with people and now I can talk to anyone. Practice, practice, practice. Little steps towards getting to know people. I find asking questions is the easiest way to get a conversation going with someone.

Or maybe it's because you're a deep thinker stuck in your head?

Here's a good free personality test to figure out a bit of yourself.
Free personality test | 16Personalities

Maybe go to church to start the adventure. The most important thing to find a wife or husband is to date and get to know people as friends first.
So get out there, dive into the fear and you will find courage on the other side. Bible studies are a good place to meet people in your community to practice socialising as well.

Also get baptised (full immersion) if you haven't already.
 
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I have a friend who was born when his parents were 36, and he was their first child.

Sure, plenty of people there especially nowadays when people are putting children until they feel economically secure and what not. Just saying this is a pretty new trend in the history of man.
 
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