Creationists: Explain how the designer created and/or modified living things on Earth

Anthony Edgar

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actually its science. its scientific to conclude design when we see a watch or a robot or a natural gear like this one:
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(image from Creature with Interlocking Gears on Legs Discovered)
Wow - that's incredible! Apparently, there's no evidence of design in nature!
 
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that’s news to me and I’ve got a biology degree ! I’m inclined to think that’s just creationist blather
"As can be noted from the listed principles, current evolutionary theory is predominantly oriented towards a genetic explanation of variation, and, except for some minor semantic modifications, this has not changed over the past seven or eight decades. Whatever lip service is paid to taking into account other factors than those traditionally accepted, we find that the theory, as presented in extant writings, concentrates on a limited set of evolutionary explananda, excluding the majority of those mentioned among the explanatory goals above. The theory performs well with regard to the issues it concentrates on, providing testable and abundantly confirmed predictions on the dynamics of genetic variation in evolving populations, on the gradual variation and adaptation of phenotypic traits, and on certain genetic features of speciation. If the explanation would stop here, no controversy would exist. But it has become habitual in evolutionary biology to take population genetics as the privileged type of explanation of all evolutionary phenomena, thereby negating the fact that, on the one hand, not all of its predictions can be confirmed under all circumstances, and, on the other hand, a wealth of evolutionary phenomena remains excluded. For instance, the theory largely avoids the question of how the complex organizations of organismal structure, physiology, development or behavior — whose variation it describes — actually arise in evolution, and it also provides no adequate means for including factors that are not part of the population genetic framework, such as developmental, systems theoretical, ecological or cultural influences."

Gerd Muller, Austrian evolutionary theorist, “Why an extended evolutionary synthesis is necessary."
https://evolutionnews.org/2017/08/e...oids-biggest-questions-of-biological-origins/

Futhermore, since you have a biology degree, you are highly likely to have been completely brainwashed into accepting the Darwinist explanation for the history of life on earth as established scientific fact.

 
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It is possible to believe that life evolved pretty much as the theory of evolution describes and is at once the vehicle of divine Telos.
I never said it couldn't. (Although there is evidence that suggests a contiguous process of Darwinian evolution is not what happened.)
The "Third Way" does not represent a departure from methodological naturalism nor open a window for creationist pseudoscience.
I never said it did.
 
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"As can be noted from the listed principles, current evolutionary theory is predominantly oriented towards a genetic explanation of variation, and, except for some minor semantic modifications, this has not changed over the past seven or eight decades. Whatever lip service is paid to taking into account other factors than those traditionally accepted, we find that the theory, as presented in extant writings, concentrates on a limited set of evolutionary explananda, excluding the majority of those mentioned among the explanatory goals above. The theory performs well with regard to the issues it concentrates on, providing testable and abundantly confirmed predictions on the dynamics of genetic variation in evolving populations, on the gradual variation and adaptation of phenotypic traits, and on certain genetic features of speciation. If the explanation would stop here, no controversy would exist. But it has become habitual in evolutionary biology to take population genetics as the privileged type of explanation of all evolutionary phenomena, thereby negating the fact that, on the one hand, not all of its predictions can be confirmed under all circumstances, and, on the other hand, a wealth of evolutionary phenomena remains excluded. For instance, the theory largely avoids the question of how the complex organizations of organismal structure, physiology, development or behavior — whose variation it describes — actually arise in evolution, and it also provides no adequate means for including factors that are not part of the population genetic framework, such as developmental, systems theoretical, ecological or cultural influences."

Gerd Muller, Austrian evolutionary theorist, “Why an extended evolutionary synthesis is necessary."
https://evolutionnews.org/2017/08/e...oids-biggest-questions-of-biological-origins/

Futhermore, since you have a biology degree, you are highly likely to have been completely brainwashed into accepting the Darwinist explanation for the history of life on earth as established scientific fact.
A lot of verbiage ! unfortunately you’re wrong. biologists and other life scientists can explain how some of these things happen . For example limbs arise from the same structuring genes that control head to anus patterning . We know scientific theories are necessarily incomplete and since you don’t have a coherent idea other than insert magic because of God ; science is the better explanation.
 
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A lot of verbiage ! unfortunately you’re wrong. biologists and other life scientists can explain how some of these things happen . For example limbs arise from the same structuring genes that control head to anus patterning . We know scientific theories are necessarily incomplete and since you don’t have a coherent idea other than insert magic because of God ; science is the better explanation.
Whatever. It's all academic - no one can definitively demonstrate what was responsible for the history of life on earth. The neo-Darwinist explanation the best scientific explanation, but that doesn't mean it's a fact. Since God was responsible for miraculously creating the very first life-forms, I dare say God used miraculous powers to create all the subsequent life-forms. Bacteria eventually evolved into human beings via a natural process? I seriously doubt it.

Furthermore, the neo-Darwinian explanation for the fossil record provides no practical use in applied science, so for all intents and purposes, it's just an irrelevant story.
 
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you're wrong, biologists and other life scientists can explain how some of these things happen
Anyone can come up with an "explanation" for certain observations.

Colin Patterson: " It is easy enough to make up stories of how one form gave rise to another, and to find reasons why the stages should be favoured by natural selection. But such stories are not part of science, for there is no way of putting them to the test." (from a letter written to Luther Sunderland, 1979)

How can a single-circulation heart evolve into a double-circulation heart? Good luck with that.
 
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