Enoch walked with God and he was no more

HTacianas said:

Why do we accept that but many do not accept that Mary walked with God but was no more?

If Enoch had some place in God's plan by merely speaking to people, how much moreso did Mary have a place?

If those beheaded for the testimony of Christ are under the throne of God praying to Him, how much moreso the mother of our Lord?

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Probably because "it isn't in the Bible".

HTacianas said:

Why do we accept that but many do not accept that Mary walked with God but was no more?

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Like David stated, scripture make no mention of it.
Personally, it makes no difference to me if someone wants to believe it or not. But what is troubling is when an institution creates dogma out of things not found in scripture and tells people their eternal salvation is dependent upon believing that dogma.

IT IS SEALED.

Hebrews 13:8 Jesus Christ the same yesterday, today and forever...
John 14:2 and he’s preparing a place for Christians
And being fully man and God, why wouldn’t He summon her to His presence?
Luke 23:43 to some extent He offers this to the thief on the cross.

ENOCH'S BOOK WAS CORRUPTED, THE BIBLE HAS THE TRUTH.
ENOCH WALKED WITH GOD, WE CAN NOT RETRIEVE OTHER TRUTH.
FROM THE SCRIPTURE, FOR IT WAS EDITED. IT IS UNTRUSTWORTHY
BUT IT IS NOT COMPLETELY FALSE LIKE THE GOSPEL OF JUDAS.

God bless you!

According to scripture and tradition. Enoch. Elijah. Jesus. And his mother Mary. Were all taken up to heaven

the description of Elijah's translation? Maybe the most detailed. It sounds like he was drawn into and up through a fiery tornado like vortex. (Cp. Fire tornadoes.)

The description of Christ's ascension. May also be consistent with a tornado like Vortex, drawing him up towards the clouds.

HTacianas said:

Why do we accept that but many do not accept that Mary walked with God but was no more?

If Enoch had some place in God's plan by merely speaking to people, how much moreso did Mary have a place?

If those beheaded for the testimony of Christ are under the throne of God praying to Him, how much moreso the mother of our Lord?

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Hi and those under the alter has yet to happen in the GREAT TRIBULATION and 2000 years have passed since MARY died !

Second thing is in John 3:13 which reads , And no man hath ascended up to heaven , BUT He that came down from heaven , even the Son of Man which is in heaven !!
If you wonder why no woman has ascended , ks because in the BODY OF CHRIST there are no MALES or FEMALES , Gal 3:28 !!

dan p

Dan Perez said:

Hi and those under the alter has yet to happen in the GREAT TRIBULATION and 2000 years have passed since MARY died !

Second thing is in John 3:13 which reads , And no man hath ascended up to heaven , BUT He that came down from heaven , even the Son of Man which is in heaven !!
If you wonder why no woman has ascended , ks because in the BODY OF CHRIST there are no MALES or FEMALES , Gal 3:28 !!

dan p

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So you think people become genderless or something like that?

David Cabrera said:

So you think people become genderless or something like that?

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Hi and Gal 3:28 says that all that ARE / ESTE which is the Greek PRESENT TENSE , means we are always "in Christ " and that there are no MALES nor FEMALES in Christ !!

And in 2 Cor 5:17 we are a NEW CREATION and Gal 6:15 that neither CIRCUMCISION , which are Jews AND Un-circumcision or Gentiles , BUT A NEW CREATION !!

dan p

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Hi and Gal 3:28 says that all that ARE / ESTE which is the Greek PRESENT TENSE , means we are always "in Christ " and that there are no MALES nor FEMALES in Christ !!

And in 2 Cor 5:17 we are a NEW CREATION and Gal 6:15 that neither CIRCUMCISION , which are Jews AND Un-circumcision or Gentiles , BUT A NEW CREATION !!

dan p

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You didn't answer the question.

David Cabrera said:

You didn't answer the question.

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Hi and post 11 is the answer that in the body of Christ there are NOT Males nor Females because all in the boby of Christ is a new creature , seem very PLAIN to me and you disagree with THAT ??

dan p

Dan Perez said:

Hi and post 11 is the answer that in the body of Christ there are NOT Males nor Females because all in the boby of Christ is a new creature , seem very PLAIN to me and you disagree with THAT ??

dan p

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Yes, because it never talks about becoming genderless or something like that.

David Cabrera said:

Yes, because it never talks about becoming genderless or something like that.

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Hi and it says THERE CANNOT BE MALE OR FEMALE , what than can it be in Gal 3:28 ??

dan p

Dan Perez said:

Hi and it says THERE CANNOT BE MALE OR FEMALE , what than can it be in Gal 3:28 ??

dan p

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Wouldn't it mean that everyone is allowed to get salvation regardless of gender?

David Cabrera said:

Wouldn't it mean that everyone is allowed to get salvation regardless of gender?

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Hi and as far as I see , there are only MALE and FEMALES , so yes !!

dan p

David Cabrera said:

Probably because "it isn't in the Bible".

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Enoch is in the Bible in the Book of Jude 14 "It was of these also that Enoch in the seventh generation from Adam prophesied, saying, “Behold, the Lord came with his holy myriads, 15 to execute judgment on all, and to convict all the ungodly of all their deeds of ungodliness which they have committed in such an ungodly way, and of all the harsh things which ungodly sinners have spoken against him.” 16 These are grumblers, malcontents, following their own passions, loud-mouthed boasters, flattering people to gain advantage."