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I pray in Jesus’ mighty name for wisdom to know what is blocking this healing.

He may give you or someone else a word of knowledge or word of wisdom. However He chooses to work, I pray that you will get the answers you need

Blessings!
 
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I have seen demons, angels and God

So what do you make of this:

I will not let you see my face, because no one can see me and stay alive
Exodus 33:20

and

No one has ever seen God
John 1:18

I will pray for you all but not for a "seer" but for His will to be done. I use to be part of Pentecostal ideas that thought if healing did not come right away than something was "blocking" them as if God was some jeannie and had to do what we said. The truth of the matter is that God may have a different plan than you or me. I am disabled and prayed for healing and had healing prayers prayed for me but you know what it is not God's will right now maybe. Instead of seeing suffering as a curse (Romans 5:3-4, Romans 8:17, James 1:2-4) offer the suffering up to God as St. Paul did (Colossians 1:24) , this all might be part of God's plan for our lives.
 
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Welcome to the forum!

I pray in Jesus’ mighty name for wisdom to know what is blocking this healing.

He may give you or someone else a word of knowledge or word of wisdom. However He chooses to work, I pray that you will get the answers you need

Blessings!

Thank you, I need that.
 
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So what do you make of this:

I will not let you see my face, because no one can see me and stay alive
Exodus 33:20

and

No one has ever seen God
John 1:18

I will pray for you all but not for a "seer" but for His will to be done. I use to be part of Pentecostal ideas that thought if healing did not come right away than something was "blocking" them as if God was some jeannie and had to do what we said. The truth of the matter is that God may have a different plan than you or me. I am disabled and prayed for healing and had healing prayers prayed for me but you know what it is not God's will right now maybe. Instead of seeing suffering as a curse (Romans 5:3-4, Romans 8:17, James 1:2-4) offer the suffering up to God as St. Paul did (Colossians 1:24) , this all might be part of God's plan for our lives.


Matthew 5:8 ESV
“Blessed are the pure in heart, for they shall see God.

Genesis 32:30 ESV
So Jacob called the name of the place Peniel, saying, “For I have seen God face to face, and yet my life has been delivered.”

Revelation 4:2 ESV
At once I was in the Spirit, and behold, a throne stood in heaven, with one seated on the throne.

Acts 7:55-56 ESV
But he, full of the Holy Spirit, gazed into heaven and saw the glory of God, and Jesus standing at the right hand of God. And he said, “Behold, I see the heavens opened, and the Son of Man standing at the right hand of God.”

John 14:9 ESV
Jesus said to him, “Have I been with you so long, and you still do not know me, Philip? Whoever has seen me has seen the Father. How can you say, ‘Show us the Father’?

John 1:14 ESV
And the Word became flesh and dwelt among us, and we have seen his glory, glory as of the only Son from the Father, full of grace and truth.


Exodus 4:18-31 ESV
Moses went back to Jethro his father-in-law and said to him, “Please let me go back to my brothers in Egypt to see whether they are still alive.” And Jethro said to Moses, “Go in peace.” And the Lord said to Moses in Midian, “Go back to Egypt, for all the men who were seeking your life are dead.” So Moses took his wife and his sons and had them ride on a donkey, and went back to the land of Egypt. And Moses took the staff of God in his hand. And the Lord said to Moses, “When you go back to Egypt, see that you do before Pharaoh all the miracles that I have put in your power. But I will harden his heart, so that he will not let the people go. Then you shall say to Pharaoh, ‘Thus says the Lord, Israel is my firstborn son, ...

2 Kings 6:17-20 ESV
Then Elisha prayed and said, “O Lord, please open his eyes that he may see.” So the Lord opened the eyes of the young man, and he saw, and behold, the mountain was full of horses and chariots of fire all around Elisha. And when the Syrians came down against him, Elisha prayed to the Lord and said, “Please strike this people with blindness.” So he struck them with blindness in accordance with the prayer of Elisha. And Elisha said to them, “This is not the way, and this is not the city. Follow me, and I will bring you to the man whom you seek.” And he led them to Samaria. As soon as they entered Samaria, Elisha said, “O Lord, open the eyes of these men, that they may see.” So the Lord opened their eyes and they saw, and behold, they were in the midst of Samaria.
 
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The Father tells us to "test the spirits" and Messiah says there is "the voice of the stranger" i.e. the devil, trying to mislead us. We are also told to pray for discernment. Well, you could pray for discernment on any self pronounced "seer" but I would personally steer totally clear of any such people. Over and over again we see them turning out to be frauds.

Guess Whom the Father wants you to be consulting? HIM. "Trust in the Lord with all your heart and lean not on your own understanding. In all your ways acknowledge Him and He will direct your paths."

Go to Him for light and wisdom on what the impediment is. I will pray that you do that and that you hear and follow Him. As someone above said, your post sounds kind of new agey. If you have got that kind of stuff in your home and/or in your heart and mind, there could be a big impediment right there. We have to choose which Master we will follow. We can only choose one.
 
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Matthew 5:8 ESV
“Blessed are the pure in heart, for they shall see God.

Genesis 32:30 ESV
So Jacob called the name of the place Peniel, saying, “For I have seen God face to face, and yet my life has been delivered.”

Revelation 4:2 ESV
At once I was in the Spirit, and behold, a throne stood in heaven, with one seated on the throne.

Acts 7:55-56 ESV
But he, full of the Holy Spirit, gazed into heaven and saw the glory of God, and Jesus standing at the right hand of God. And he said, “Behold, I see the heavens opened, and the Son of Man standing at the right hand of God.”

John 14:9 ESV
Jesus said to him, “Have I been with you so long, and you still do not know me, Philip? Whoever has seen me has seen the Father. How can you say, ‘Show us the Father’?

John 1:14 ESV
And the Word became flesh and dwelt among us, and we have seen his glory, glory as of the only Son from the Father, full of grace and truth.


Exodus 4:18-31 ESV
Moses went back to Jethro his father-in-law and said to him, “Please let me go back to my brothers in Egypt to see whether they are still alive.” And Jethro said to Moses, “Go in peace.” And the Lord said to Moses in Midian, “Go back to Egypt, for all the men who were seeking your life are dead.” So Moses took his wife and his sons and had them ride on a donkey, and went back to the land of Egypt. And Moses took the staff of God in his hand. And the Lord said to Moses, “When you go back to Egypt, see that you do before Pharaoh all the miracles that I have put in your power. But I will harden his heart, so that he will not let the people go. Then you shall say to Pharaoh, ‘Thus says the Lord, Israel is my firstborn son, ...

2 Kings 6:17-20 ESV
Then Elisha prayed and said, “O Lord, please open his eyes that he may see.” So the Lord opened the eyes of the young man, and he saw, and behold, the mountain was full of horses and chariots of fire all around Elisha. And when the Syrians came down against him, Elisha prayed to the Lord and said, “Please strike this people with blindness.” So he struck them with blindness in accordance with the prayer of Elisha. And Elisha said to them, “This is not the way, and this is not the city. Follow me, and I will bring you to the man whom you seek.” And he led them to Samaria. As soon as they entered Samaria, Elisha said, “O Lord, open the eyes of these men, that they may see.” So the Lord opened their eyes and they saw, and behold, they were in the midst of Samaria.

Blessings in Christ Jesus! It has been my experience that when one is strong in Him, that they attack the weakness. What is a mothers weakness? What does a mother not see or refuses to see? Pray in The Spirit for The Spirit knows what we ought to pray.
 
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The Father tells us to "test the spirits" and Messiah says there is "the voice of the stranger" i.e. the devil, trying to mislead us. We are also told to pray for discernment. Well, you could pray for discernment on any self pronounced "seer" but I would personally steer totally clear of any such people. Over and over again we see them turning out to be frauds.

Guess Whom the Father wants you to be consulting? HIM. "Trust in the Lord with all your heart and lean not on your own understanding. In all your ways acknowledge Him and He will direct your paths."

Go to Him for light and wisdom on what the impediment is. I will pray that you do that and that you hear and follow Him. As someone above said, your post sounds kind of new agey. If you have got that kind of stuff in your home and/or in your heart and mind, there could be a big impediment right there. We have to choose which Master we will follow. We can only choose one.

I am trying to be as kind and as gentle as I can with this, but here we are:
Hebrews 5: Spiritual Immaturity
12 For though by this time you ought to be teachers, you need someone to teach you again the first principles of the oracles of God; and you have come to need milk and not solid food. 13 For everyone who partakes only of milk is unskilled in the word of righteousness, for he is a babe. 14 But solid food belongs to those who are of full age, that is, those who by reason of use have their senses exercised to discern both good and evil.

Hebrews 6 New King James Version (NKJV)
The Peril of Not Progressing
6 Therefore, leaving the discussion of the elementary principles of Christ, let us go on to perfection, not laying again the foundation of repentance from dead works and of faith toward God, 2 of the doctrine of baptisms, of laying on of hands, of resurrection of the dead, and of eternal judgment. 3 And this we will do if God permits.

If you don’t cast out devils and do not heal the sick through Jesus Christ than it is a problem. The bible says in Philippians 4 that “I can do all things through Christ who strengthens me.” The word does not limit us on what we can do; it is us, people who limit us. Is there enough faith in you to heal the sick and raise the dead? God also gave us the authority to cast out devils, heal the sick and raise the dead. Luke 10:19-20: “Behold, I give you the authority to trample on serpents and scorpions, and over all the power of the enemy, and nothing shall by any means hurt you.” Notice this was power over all demons and to heal.

Again, if we don’t have that faith it is a problem, because only faith pleases God.

There’s a whole sermon to be preached just on this subject. I would advise you to read the bible and not just read it, but meditate and chew on it, because that’s when you will be illuminated and be able to understand what you read. Many read and take the word out of context and with this get confused and confuse others.

Seers are used just as much as prophets. I am not willing to walk around blinded by the devil anymore, I want to come out of it and be able to see in the spirit. I want to see who is around me, and know how to protect myself against evil spiritual attacks. Read 1 Peter 5: “8Be sober, be vigilant; because your adversary the devil, as a roaring lion, walketh about, seeking whom he may devour:”

Evil spirits like to stay hidden so we won’t notice them, so that they would be able to continue to keep us bound with all kind of sicknesses and torments. Maybe these things are too much for you, but really ask God to help you understand scriptures better. I am not willing to limit God in my life. He is unlimited, and He will give us only as much as we can handle.

I also have nothing to do with the new age stuff and never did, I just want more of God.
 
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Despise not prophesyings." "Prove all things; hold fast that which is good." I Thess 5:20-21

How do we prove all things? Foremost, we have Holy Scripture, The Holy Spirit, prayer, spiritual discernment, and hearing God's voice. He'll give confirmation
(Acts 9;9-19 especially v 10-12; II Cor 13:1).
 
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Sometimes they are used(allowed) in times of testing to see if one will be faithful and bring one closer. Sometimes they are used(allowed) to make one take a stand, and use The Power and Authority that comes with being a true son or daughter. If one stands firm in the faith and proclaims that which is true out loud, they will hear, even though perhaps you can not see them. And what is true? Every thing you are and everything you have is The Lords. This includes your home. Why should we allow the enemy to run amuck when where we live is The Lords. Stand and proclaim out loud this truth and they will flee from you and yours. Show them the door and command them in Jesus Holy Name. The other night my dream or vision was of an oversized doberman pacing back and forth outside the fence of my yard. He was almost the size of a horse. And so you may know, I have no fence around my yard.
 
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Despise not prophesyings." "Prove all things; hold fast that which is good." I Thess 5:20-21

How do we prove all things? Foremost, we have Holy Scripture, The Holy Spirit, prayer, spiritual discernment, and hearing God's voice. He'll give confirmation
(Acts 9;9-19 especially v 10-12; II Cor 13:1).

I like your comment. I don't hear much of this from people, except jumping into judging and criticizing things they don't know about.
 
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I am trying to be as kind and as gentle as I can with this, but here we are:
Hebrews 5: Spiritual Immaturity
12 For though by this time you ought to be teachers, you need someone to teach you again the first principles of the oracles of God; and you have come to need milk and not solid food. 13 For everyone who partakes only of milk is unskilled in the word of righteousness, for he is a babe. 14 But solid food belongs to those who are of full age, that is, those who by reason of use have their senses exercised to discern both good and evil.

Hebrews 6 New King James Version (NKJV)
The Peril of Not Progressing
6 Therefore, leaving the discussion of the elementary principles of Christ, let us go on to perfection, not laying again the foundation of repentance from dead works and of faith toward God, 2 of the doctrine of baptisms, of laying on of hands, of resurrection of the dead, and of eternal judgment. 3 And this we will do if God permits.

If you don’t cast out devils and do not heal the sick through Jesus Christ than it is a problem. The bible says in Philippians 4 that “I can do all things through Christ who strengthens me.” The word does not limit us on what we can do; it is us, people who limit us. Is there enough faith in you to heal the sick and raise the dead? God also gave us the authority to cast out devils, heal the sick and raise the dead. Luke 10:19-20: “Behold, I give you the authority to trample on serpents and scorpions, and over all the power of the enemy, and nothing shall by any means hurt you.” Notice this was power over all demons and to heal.

Again, if we don’t have that faith it is a problem, because only faith pleases God.

There’s a whole sermon to be preached just on this subject. I would advise you to read the bible and not just read it, but meditate and chew on it, because that’s when you will be illuminated and be able to understand what you read. Many read and take the word out of context and with this get confused and confuse others.

Seers are used just as much as prophets. I am not willing to walk around blinded by the devil anymore, I want to come out of it and be able to see in the spirit. I want to see who is around me, and know how to protect myself against evil spiritual attacks. Read 1 Peter 5: “8Be sober, be vigilant; because your adversary the devil, as a roaring lion, walketh about, seeking whom he may devour:”

Evil spirits like to stay hidden so we won’t notice them, so that they would be able to continue to keep us bound with all kind of sicknesses and torments. Maybe these things are too much for you, but really ask God to help you understand scriptures better. I am not willing to limit God in my life. He is unlimited, and He will give us only as much as we can handle.

I also have nothing to do with the new age stuff and never did, I just want more of God.
I certainly never said there were no seers. I said that those who are self proclaimed seers are often frauds. I said we need discernment about such things. Whether you think you are onto a real live seer or not, the advice to seek the Lord in all things is still totally true, isn't it? He could theoretically lead you to a seer. That's assuming there are any genuine ones around.

Did I even hint that we are not to cast out evil spirits or that we are not told to heal the sick? Did I even bring up those topics in any ways whatsoever? You are advising me to read the Bible more carefully. Perhaps it would help you to read simple posts more carefully.

As I said, there are tons of frauds out there who would just love to be your "seer." I was just giving a cautionary note. The Messiah Himself told us there would be wolves in sheep's clothing.

The whole tone of your post to me is full of left handed insults like "spiritual immaturity....the peril of not progressing.." the implication that I, unlike you (ahem!) am lacking in faith, and, again, accusations on topics I never even addressed. Perhaps work on your own spiritual maturity and worry about your own progress first, my dear. As our Savior told us, it helps to examine the beam in our own eyes first.

You asked for advice. I wish I had not given it to you. It was what I believe, and do believe. if you don't like it, you don't have to be attacking.
 
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And btw the Savior never said that seers were to be the ones to heal the sick and raise the dead and so on. He never said to seek them for "impediments" in our faith walk. Healing and other miracles are for anyone who has enough faith. That could be you under the right conditions.
 
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Matthew 5:8 ESV
“Blessed are the pure in heart, for they shall see God.

Genesis 32:30 ESV
So Jacob called the name of the place Peniel, saying, “For I have seen God face to face, and yet my life has been delivered.”

Revelation 4:2 ESV
At once I was in the Spirit, and behold, a throne stood in heaven, with one seated on the throne.

Acts 7:55-56 ESV
But he, full of the Holy Spirit, gazed into heaven and saw the glory of God, and Jesus standing at the right hand of God. And he said, “Behold, I see the heavens opened, and the Son of Man standing at the right hand of God.”

John 14:9 ESV
Jesus said to him, “Have I been with you so long, and you still do not know me, Philip? Whoever has seen me has seen the Father. How can you say, ‘Show us the Father’?

John 1:14 ESV
And the Word became flesh and dwelt among us, and we have seen his glory, glory as of the only Son from the Father, full of grace and truth.


Exodus 4:18-31 ESV
Moses went back to Jethro his father-in-law and said to him, “Please let me go back to my brothers in Egypt to see whether they are still alive.” And Jethro said to Moses, “Go in peace.” And the Lord said to Moses in Midian, “Go back to Egypt, for all the men who were seeking your life are dead.” So Moses took his wife and his sons and had them ride on a donkey, and went back to the land of Egypt. And Moses took the staff of God in his hand. And the Lord said to Moses, “When you go back to Egypt, see that you do before Pharaoh all the miracles that I have put in your power. But I will harden his heart, so that he will not let the people go. Then you shall say to Pharaoh, ‘Thus says the Lord, Israel is my firstborn son, ...

2 Kings 6:17-20 ESV
Then Elisha prayed and said, “O Lord, please open his eyes that he may see.” So the Lord opened the eyes of the young man, and he saw, and behold, the mountain was full of horses and chariots of fire all around Elisha. And when the Syrians came down against him, Elisha prayed to the Lord and said, “Please strike this people with blindness.” So he struck them with blindness in accordance with the prayer of Elisha. And Elisha said to them, “This is not the way, and this is not the city. Follow me, and I will bring you to the man whom you seek.” And he led them to Samaria. As soon as they entered Samaria, Elisha said, “O Lord, open the eyes of these men, that they may see.” So the Lord opened their eyes and they saw, and behold, they were in the midst of Samaria.

Sorry I tried to help. You don't ant God, you want a genie
 
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