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I have been given information also.
Would like to hear a story about the delusionable flood that is televangilisom?
How many seats are filled in a praetorium by paid extras?
If I recall correctly a curse is running its course upon those who have added to Revelation without The Spirit of Understanding.

I wonder if the beast will once again attempt to wash his hands with blood after taking a bribe.
Hate being likened to the unforgivable sin of murder by our Lord Yeshua.
Is exactly what the enemy pours out.

The beast will be so famished, it will devour its own mother like the dogs that consumed jezebel ....

Televigilantes will have their reward.
Exactly my point for posting pastor White's background info. MJs aren't evangelicals and as such aren't all that interested in the background info i posted on the former Pentecostal megachurch Pastor that "led Trump to Christ", and is recognized by evangelicals as being Trump's personal pastor and spiritual advisor. So, Thanks for your 2 posts basically confirming what we suspect/knew is a lack of interest by Messianic Judaism in Paula White.

Some of the recent posts on this Trump thread appear conflicted possibly giving rise to a wry sense of humor as well as some confusion ...
Donald Trump kicks off his Presidential run on the eve of True Biblical Shavuot, Sivan 15 with a powerful opening prayer by Paula White
It was a post I thought you all should know is out there. I did not verify the authenticity.
Even the link is no longer available

The purpose of my several posts was to see if vis would ever answer my question, which she chose to evade/avoid. Apparently the above post in bold was copied and pasted from a source which for whatever reason she choose not to divulge. As hard as i tried just couldn't pin her down. Suspect she may be a conflicted Trump supporter, thus the reason for her frequent posts on this thread. (IMO).
 
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Exactly my point for posting pastor White's background info. MJs aren't evangelicals and as such aren't all that interested in the background info i posted on the former Pentecostal megachurch Pastor that "led Trump to Christ", and is recognized by evangelicals as being Trump's personal pastor and spiritual advisor. So, Thanks for your 2 posts basically confirming what we suspect/knew is a lack of interest by Messianic Judaism in Paula White.

Some of the recent posts on this Trump thread appear conflicted possibly giving rise to a wry sense of humor as well as some confusion ...





The purpose of my several posts was to see if vis would ever answer my question, which she chose to evade/avoid. Apparently the above post in bold was copied and pasted from a source which for whatever reason she choose not to divulge. As hard as i tried just couldn't pin her down. Suspect she may be a conflicted Trump supporter, thus the reason for her frequent posts on this thread. (IMO).
After fellowshipping with viz for a few yrs I've noticed a certain style or atecia in her teqnique that is very valuable (imo

A certain form of confirmation that is unique.

A slang of sorts that only a ghetto born soul is capable of discerning.
 
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Exactly my point for posting pastor White's background info. MJs aren't evangelicals and as such aren't all that interested in the background info i posted on the former Pentecostal megachurch Pastor that "led Trump to Christ", and is recognized by evangelicals as being Trump's personal pastor and spiritual advisor. So, Thanks for your 2 posts basically confirming what we suspect/knew is a lack of interest by Messianic Judaism in Paula White.

Some of the recent posts on this Trump thread appear conflicted possibly giving rise to a wry sense of humor as well as some confusion ...





The purpose of my several posts was to see if vis would ever answer my question, which she chose to evade/avoid. Apparently the above post in bold was copied and pasted from a source which for whatever reason she choose not to divulge. As hard as i tried just couldn't pin her down. Suspect she may be a conflicted Trump supporter, thus the reason for her frequent posts on this thread. (IMO).
Aletta (28 May 2010) “Pentecost/Shavuot on 15 Sivan/30 May 2010”
 
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After fellowshipping with viz for a few yrs I've noticed a certain style or atecia in her teqnique that is very valuable (imo

A certain form of confirmation that is unique.
The math is wrong.
Then the absurdity is .... Is trump that much a threat?
Now vis has you scratching your head? Are we just so much putty in her hands "a certain form of confirmation that is unique (imo" ? Was the sheep skin first pulled over your eyes lulling you into believing vis has a "certain form of confirmation that is unique (imo" ...

For example ("unique") when vis posted "True Biblical Shavuot, Sivan 15" (#644), and includes it with pastor Paula White's "powerful prayer" MJs aren't sure if vis believes it or is possibly being somewhat cynical or just conflicted. And then she finally posts just that copied 'image' (#655) giving us the impression it was her source for "True Biblical Shavuot, Sivan 15" ... a source image that's possibly fake (#655).

One can draw different conclusions. For example if confusion perhaps vis' wanted us to believe the source was Paula White who thought June 19th corresponded with Exodus 19:18-19 as the "True Biblical Shavuot, Sivan 15" (June 19, 2019). After all would Trump know the difference if his personal pastor and spiritual advisor decided to tickle his narcissistic ear with a coinciding Jewish Holy Day ? ;) Apparently that may have been the intention of the source of "True Biblical Shavuot, Sivan 15" that vis refuses to divulge.

This isn't the first time vis has been confronted by a MJ member for either cutting and pasting info without providing a link giving the impression it's her own words ... or ... posting controversial info without providing a link to her source
(e.g. Messianic Judaism, Jewish sect, RCC, evangelical denomination, CNN or rogue).

So we're back to the question i've asked vis several times which she refuses to answer ...

Were you making jest when posting "Sivan 15" leading one to also wonder if your comment
"with a powerful opening prayer by Paula White" was also tongue-in-cheek jest OR do you
actually have reason to believe their is supporting evidence that "True Biblical Shavuot"
was at one time possibly celebrated by Israel on "Sivan 15" ?​

Perhaps, a post happy conflicted Trump supporter is confused OR possibly could the real reason for post #644 be what pinacled refers to as "her teqnique that is very valuable (imo". Kind of like occasionally throwing MJ members both a split-finger curve and fast ball at the same time ...
Donald Trump kicks off his Presidential run on the eve of True Biblical Shavuot, Sivan 15 with a powerful opening prayer by Paula White
 
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Now vis has you scratching your head? Are we just so much putty in her hands "a certain form of confirmation that is unique (imo" ? Was the sheep skin first pulled over your eyes lulling you into believing vis has a "certain form of confirmation that is unique (imo" ...

For example ("unique") when vis posted "True Biblical Shavuot, Sivan 15" (#644), and includes it with pastor Paula White's "powerful prayer" MJs aren't sure if vis believes it or is possibly being somewhat cynical or just conflicted. And then she finally posts just that copied 'image' (#655) giving us the impression it was her source for "True Biblical Shavuot, Sivan 15" ... a source image that's possibly fake (#655).

One can draw different conclusions. For example if confusion perhaps vis' wanted us to believe the source was Paula White who thought June 19th corresponded with Exodus 19:18-19 as the "True Biblical Shavuot, Sivan 15" (June 19, 2019). After all would Trump know the difference if his personal pastor and spiritual advisor decided to tickle his narcissistic ear with a coinciding Jewish Holy Day ? ;) Apparently that may have been the intention of the source of "True Biblical Shavuot, Sivan 15" that vis refuses to divulge.

This isn't the first time vis has been confronted by a MJ member for either cutting and pasting info without providing a link giving the impression it's her own words ... or ... posting controversial info without providing a link to her source
(e.g. Messianic Judaism, Jewish sect, RCC, evangelical denomination, CNN or rogue).

So we're back to the question i've asked vis several times which she refuses to answer ...

Were you making jest when posting "Sivan 15" leading one to also wonder if your comment
"with a powerful opening prayer by Paula White" was also tongue-in-cheek jest OR do you
actually have reason to believe their is supporting evidence that "True Biblical Shavuot"
was at one time possibly celebrated by Israel on "Sivan 15" ?​

Perhaps, a post happy conflicted Trump supporter is confused OR possibly could the real reason for post #644 be what pinacled refers to as "her teqnique that is very valuable (imo". Kind of like occasionally throwing MJ members both a split-finger curve and fast ball at the same time ...
Copy and paste... guilty
 
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Here's a plausible conclusion since vis refuses to answer my question and then finally posts what may be a fake image to possibly make us question whether or not it is her own belief.

Conclusion: The most likely conclusion is that vis' post (#644) is her own heart-felt belief as possibly echoed from some recent article (which supposedly is no longer available) ...
Donald Trump kicks off his Presidential run on the eve of True Biblical Shavuot, Sivan 15 with a powerful opening prayer by Paula White
It's plausible that vis posted her belief to further bolster MJs that may be on the fence as whether or not Trump is a modern-day Cyrus figure ordained by GOD to save America from the "denomic networks" (Paula White) and the socialism of Bernie Sanders, Biden and all the other donkey candidates that believe in late-term abortion as well as questioning America's relationship (strong ally) to Israel. Socialists that are scared to death that if Trump gets reelected abortions will be restricted state-by-state as passed by the populous and no longer up to congress or the supreme court to determine.

As pinacled so aptly eluded ... "Are we that desperate for a Cyrus figure (Trump) that MJs should recognize the 'True Biblical Shavuot, Sivan 15' as once occurring on Sivan 15 in Israel (June 19, 2019) as possibly further confirmed by Trump's announced run for President on June 19, 2019.
After fellowshipping with viz for a few yrs I've noticed a certain style or atecia in her teqnique that is very valuable (imo.
A certain form of confirmation that is unique.
A slang of sorts that only a ghetto born soul is capable of discerning.
Ask vis if a farm boy from Wisconsin is close enough to the ground/soil to be a bro to a ghetto born soul of discernment ;)
 
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Donald Trump kicks off his Presidential run on the eve of True Biblical Shavuot, Sivan 15 with a powerful opening prayer by Paula White (post #644)
It was a post I thought you all should know is out there. I did not verify the authenticity. (post #652)
I have been given information also.
How many seats are filled in a praetorium by paid extras?

If I recall correctly a curse is running its course upon those who have added to Revelation without The Spirit of Understanding. (post #659)

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Now vis has you scratching your head? Are we just so much putty in her hands "a certain form of confirmation that is unique (imo" ? Was the sheep skin first pulled over your eyes lulling you into believing vis has a "certain form of confirmation that is unique (imo" ...

For example ("unique") when vis posted "True Biblical Shavuot, Sivan 15" (#644), and includes it with pastor Paula White's "powerful prayer" MJs aren't sure if vis believes it or is possibly being somewhat cynical or just conflicted. And then she finally posts just that copied 'image' (#655) giving us the impression it was her source for "True Biblical Shavuot, Sivan 15" ... a source image that's possibly fake (#655).

One can draw different conclusions. For example if confusion perhaps vis' wanted us to believe the source was Paula White who thought June 19th corresponded with Exodus 19:18-19 as the "True Biblical Shavuot, Sivan 15" (June 19, 2019). After all would Trump know the difference if his personal pastor and spiritual advisor decided to tickle his narcissistic ear with a coinciding Jewish Holy Day ? ;) Apparently that may have been the intention of the source of "True Biblical Shavuot, Sivan 15" that vis refuses to divulge.

This isn't the first time vis has been confronted by a MJ member for either cutting and pasting info without providing a link giving the impression it's her own words ... or ... posting controversial info without providing a link to her source
(e.g. Messianic Judaism, Jewish sect, RCC, evangelical denomination, CNN or rogue).

So we're back to the question i've asked vis several times which she refuses to answer ...

Were you making jest when posting "Sivan 15" leading one to also wonder if your comment
"with a powerful opening prayer by Paula White" was also tongue-in-cheek jest OR do you
actually have reason to believe their is supporting evidence that "True Biblical Shavuot"
was at one time possibly celebrated by Israel on "Sivan 15" ?​

Perhaps, a post happy conflicted Trump supporter is confused OR possibly could the real reason for post #644 be what pinacled refers to as "her teqnique that is very valuable (imo". Kind of like occasionally throwing MJ members both a split-finger curve and fast ball at the same time ...


Actually I was shaking my head at the incessant nonsense that is repetively pushed onto social media by propagandist.
Its similar to nonreality reality media. An intentional missinformation ploy.

Similar to how trolls function in chat forums.

Hence discernment being needed to disregard the majority of slander in its many forms like legion was to swine.

I believe viz has known my communication style long enough. So she likely caught my drift..

Very well,
A few scenarios to consider about a so called Cyrus, being trump.
Have you considered this an insult or compliment to trump.

In all seriousness I don't concern myself with befriending the world.
 
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A few scenarios to consider about a so called Cyrus, being trump.
Have you considered this an insult or compliment to trump.
Being you didn't capitalize trump i'll take that into consideration. Depends on ones beliefs. Just as some MJs don't support "trump" because of a former Pentecostal megachurch woman pastor that "led him to Christ" and is now trump's personal pastor and spiritual advisor. She is a charismatic woman having given a "powerful prayer" at his reelection announcement on the "True Biblical Shavuot, Sivan 15" (June 19, 2019) which coincides with Exodus 19:18-19.

Also just happens to be the same woman believed responsible for Suzanne divorcing Benny. However, they did remarry with Suzanne even changing her hair from brunette to blond ...

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Suzanne and Benny Reestablishing Their Marriage Vow
"In July of 2010 the National Enquirer reported – with pictures – that Benny Hinn was dating Paula White. Benny denied any affair. He does say that he was wrong to date Paula as he was not yet divorced at that time. But he was angry at life, his failures and having an empty home. He realized it was unwise and a lapse of judgment. Suzanne says she was so distraught after she signed the divorce papers that she went to a friend’s house for comfort, hugged her friend, and fainted. She now admits her divorcing Benny was a cry for his attention and for help."
Just thought you all should know that trump isn't the only questionable Christian man

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In the first year of his reign Cyrus was prompted by God to decree that the Temple in Jerusalem should be rebuilt and as such Jews that cared to might return to their land for this purpose.
Time will tell whether trump is instrumental in Israel rebuilding their Temple
 
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Being you didn't capitalize trump i'll take that into consideration. Depends on ones beliefs. Just as some MJs don't support "trump" because of a former Pentecostal megachurch woman pastor that "led him to Christ" and is now trump's personal pastor and spiritual advisor. She is a charismatic woman having given a "powerful prayer" at his reelection announcement on the "True Biblical Shavuot, Sivan 15" (June 19, 2019) which coincides with Exodus 19:18-19.

Also just happens to be the same woman believed responsible for Suzanne divorcing Benny. However, they did remarry with Suzanne even changing her hair from brunette to blond ...

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Suzanne and Benny Reestablishing Their Marriage Vow
"In July of 2010 the National Enquirer reported – with pictures – that Benny Hinn was dating Paula White. Benny denied any affair. He does say that he was wrong to date Paula as he was not yet divorced at that time. But he was angry at life, his failures and having an empty home. He realized it was unwise and a lapse of judgment. Suzanne says she was so distraught after she signed the divorce papers that she went to a friend’s house for comfort, hugged her friend, and fainted. She now admits her divorcing Benny was a cry for his attention and for help."
Just thought you all should know that trump isn't the only questionable Christian man

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In the first year of his reign Cyrus was prompted by God to decree that the Temple in Jerusalem should be rebuilt and as such Jews that cared to might return to their land for this purpose.
Time will tell whether trump is instrumental in Israel rebuilding their Temple
You avoided the question.

Ill be more direct.

Is calling trump a Cyrus of history an insult or compliment?

As for history concerning Cyrus.
I strongly suggest that everyone read and listen closely to What The Lord told David about building a certain structure.

I've heard of a few propagandist offering lying signs that Cyrus was a type of salvation..

Hmph, as if.

There is no such school of thought amongst Jews.
 
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For the readers concerned about The Spirit of prophecy.
Isaiah 45
With proper provisions in the spirit a person need be paralleled with yeshayahu and all prophets till revelation. Like a charity of Fire spoke of concerng looking left or right.

Authority is from The Holy One alone.

While cyrus may of been an instrument like ole nebu.
Yeshua alone is The Way.

Blessed be the Holy One.
 
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You avoided the question.
Is calling trump a Cyrus of history an insult or compliment?
i did answer your question as best i could in terms of trump possibly being a modern Cyrus figure to the Jewish people with respect to helping/encourgaing Israel to rebuild their Temple. If there is some "Cyrus figure" connection with respect to rebuilding the Temple then some of Israel's orthodox Jews may symbolic embrace trump/Trump as a type of modern day Cyrus figure ... time will tell.

Donald Trump Sings Wrecking Ball by Miley Cyrus

Possibly trump has asked his personal pastor and spiritual advisor what she hears from God regarding any modern day "Cyrus" figure. trump's daughter and son-in-law may consider such talk as foolishness or maybe not ... time will tell.

"Not all Christians, including evangelicals, are fans of the wealthy, thrice-married White, who has long been associated with the prosperity gospel, a set of beliefs that says God will reward faith, and very generous giving, with financial blessings. Detractors point to a congressional investigation of her former church's finances and accusations that she has taken advantage of her mostly African American parishioners through her fundraising. Southern Baptist leader Russell Moore has called her a "charlatan," conservative Christian writer Erick Erickson has said she's a "Trinity-denying heretic," and Christian rapper Shai Linne named her a "false teacher" in one of his songs.

But since the election, White's star has soared. She offered a prayer at Trump's inauguration (becoming the first clergywoman in history in such a role). She sat by the president at a private dinner for evangelical leaders on the eve of the National Day of Prayer. She has hovered close by during prayer sessions in the Oval Office. She was present when Trump met with advisers to discuss the nomination of Neil Gorsuch to the Supreme Court. Meanwhile, she told me, she has turned many of her duties as a pastor of a large church in Apopka, Florida, over to associates as she jets to the White House an average of once a week. (The Trump White House does not release visitor logs, so it's difficult to confirm how often White is there.)"
She led Trump to Christ: The rise of Paula White — the televangelist who advises the White House


We all know that ultra orthodox Judaism finds the Cyrus analogy insane
and
will likely favor a socialist democrat that isn't a zionist .​
 
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i did answer your question as best i could in terms of trump possibly being a modern Cyrus figure to the Jewish people with respect to helping/encourgaing Israel to rebuild their Temple. If there is some "Cyrus figure" connection with respect to rebuilding the Temple then some of Israel's orthodox Jews may symbolic embrace trump/Trump as a type of modern day Cyrus figure ... time will tell.


We all know that ultra orthodox Judaism finds the Cyrus analogy insane
and
will likely favor a socialist democrat that isn't a zionist .​
Where are you getting these terms from? Specifically the underline bolded?
And just because a few wolves in sheeps clothing go about fabricating convoluted nonsense. The fault is theirs alone. Not the community Body of our Lord.


אָנֹכִי֙ הַעִירֹתִ֣הֽוּ בְצֶ֔דֶק וְכָל־דְּרָכָ֖יו אֲיַשֵּׁ֑ר הֽוּא־יִבְנֶ֤ה עִירִי֙ וְגָלוּתִ֣י יְשַׁלֵּ֔חַ לֹ֤א בִמְחִיר֙ וְלֹ֣א בְשֹׁ֔חַד אָמַ֖ר יְהוָ֥ה צְבָאֽוֹת׃ (פ)

It was I who roused him for victory And who level all roads for him. He shall rebuild My city And let My exiled people go Without price and without payment —said the LORD of Hosts.
 
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Where are you getting these terms from? Specifically the underline bolded?
If i had never listened to that Bill Maher youtube i wouldn't have realized how infatuated evangelicals are with the comparison of trump to king Cyrus. Thus, that "underline bolded" portion needed further clarification so i've added the following ...

Were you aware that Benjamin Netanyahu even likened trump to king cyrus when in the oval office? Even Yair Netanyahu (Bibi's son) calls trump a "real rock star" and compares him to King Cyrus ...

"Yair Netanyahu, the 27-year-old son of Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, has become well-known within Israel for his boisterous social media presence, on which he defends his father from criticism and frequently ignites controversy. In a recent interview with a right-wing U.S. broadcaster, the younger Netanyahu has used his platform to defend President Trump, describing the U.S. leader as a “real rock star” in Israel and comparing him to the ancient Persian ruler King Cyrus."
www.washingtonpost.com/world/2019/06/11/yair-netanyahu-son-israeli-leader-calls-trump-real-rock-star-compares-him-king-cyrus/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.a198d2543e1b

So, as for you it is "convoluted nonsense" of trump to help Israel rebuild their Temple ...
If there is some "Cyrus figure" connection with respect to rebuilding the Temple
And just because a few wolves in sheeps clothing go about fabricating convoluted nonsense. The fault is theirs alone. Not the community Body of our Lord.
"Following President Trump’s proclamation recognizing Israeli sovereignty over the Golan Heights, Prime Minister Netanyahu compared the American leader to Cyrus the Great. While Trump’s words and actions deserve our appreciation, comparisons to Cyrus are premature. However, for President Trump to truly earn the comparison to Cyrus the Great, there is one final piece of real estate that deserves his attention."
 
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If i had never listened to that Bill Maher youtube i wouldn't have realized how infatuated evangelicals are with the comparison of trump to king Cyrus. Thus, that "underline bolded" portion needed further clarification so i've added the following ...

Were you aware that Benjamin Netanyahu even likened trump to king cyrus when in the oval office? Even Yair Netanyahu (Bibi's son) calls trump a "real rock star" and compares him to King Cyrus ...

"Yair Netanyahu, the 27-year-old son of Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, has become well-known within Israel for his boisterous social media presence, on which he defends his father from criticism and frequently ignites controversy. In a recent interview with a right-wing U.S. broadcaster, the younger Netanyahu has used his platform to defend President Trump, describing the U.S. leader as a “real rock star” in Israel and comparing him to the ancient Persian ruler King Cyrus."
www.washingtonpost.com/world/2019/06/11/yair-netanyahu-son-israeli-leader-calls-trump-real-rock-star-compares-him-king-cyrus/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.a198d2543e1b

So, as for you it is "convoluted nonsense" of trump to help Israel rebuild their Temple ...
If there is some "Cyrus figure" connection with respect to rebuilding the Temple
"Following President Trump’s proclamation recognizing Israeli sovereignty over the Golan Heights, Prime Minister Netanyahu compared the American leader to Cyrus the Great. While Trump’s words and actions deserve our appreciation, comparisons to Cyrus are premature. However, for President Trump to truly earn the comparison to Cyrus the Great, there is one final piece of real estate that deserves his attention."
Again with the term labels.
Like I said," Leave the wolves(evigilantes) and dogs(bill made) to devour their own mother".
 
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Again with the *term labels.
Like I said," Leave the wolves(evigilantes) and dogs(bill made)
to devour their own mother".
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Liars, liars, pants on fire!
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time will tell or maybe by "term" (limit) you meant another four years ;)
 
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Ex-President Obama was going to stick us for $2.1 billion or so Before Obama left office, he arranged with the State Department for a series of "official visits" to foreign countries spanning the next 20 years. Using funds from the Office of Presidential Visits and Vacations, Obama was planning to use what would have been $2.1 billion in free vacations for him and up to 24 members of his family plus staff and even a dog sitter until the year 2036. He would have, that is, until President Trump put a stop to it.

Trump, who is always looking for ways to save money, was presented with a ledger that contained all of the Obama's travel plans and expenses. The ledger was found by one of the workers President Trump hired from outside the typical White House staff. President Trump immediately canceled the plans and recalled all Secret Service agents scheduled to protect the Obamas anywhere outside of the United States. The Obama's are also facing another new challenge at the hands of President Trump. They're going to have to repay the government for all of those vacations that weren't official state business.

The bill, after some small allowances for days that were possibly work related, is for $214 million. Of the 692 days the Obama's spent on vacation, almost none included any work at all. They ate, slept, and golfed And, Michelle was given shopping allowances from the Office of Discretionary Gifting Funds, which is supposed to be used to buy presents for visiting dignitaries.
 
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