Did the event of 1948 Israel fulfill any Bible prophecy?

Did event of Israel 1948 fulfill any Bible prophecy?


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And they also succumbed to many false practices as well. Iconography, the Nicolaitan heresy misrepresenting the Lords Supper are just a few off the top of my head.

I am not condemning them- I am just saying that the seven churches highlighted, the Lord only had no bad things to say about 2 of them!

Traditions established and practiced for centuries are not Scripture.
Your original claim was this is all "not Scripture" (which wasn't about "practices" but interpretation of Scripture that our faith is based on). But without a reason to support your claim - that's just an empty insult.
 
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Well as Jesus along with His Father are the ones who made that sepration and disparity under the theocratic rule of Israel- your theory is not true!
This would mean that the religious leaders were in line with God's will (and, based on Scripture, I don't see that as being true).

The way I see it - it wasn't God that caused the separation and disparity - it was the religious leaders (and they were going against God's original design of His temple being a house of prayer for ALL nations).

IOW.....their DISobedience to His will and their own imposed law wasn't a reflection on God - it was solely on them (and Jesus wasn't pleased with them).

Matthew 15:14 ~ Disregard them! They are blind guides. If a blind man leads a blind man, both will fall into a pit.”

Luke 11:37–54 and Matthew 23:1-39

Matthew 23:35-36 ~ And so upon you will come all the righteous blood shed on earth, from the blood of righteous Abel to the blood of Zechariah son of Berekiah, whom you murdered between the temple and the altar. Truly I tell you, all these things will come upon this generation.
 
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This would mean that the religious leaders were in line with God's will (and, based on Scripture, I don't see that as being true).

The way I see it - it wasn't God that caused the separation and disparity - it was the religious leaders (and they were going against God's original design of His temple being a house of prayer for ALL nations).

IOW.....their DISobedience to His will and their own imposed law wasn't a reflection on God - it was solely on them (and Jesus wasn't pleased with them).

Matthew 15:14 ~ Disregard them! They are blind guides. If a blind man leads a blind man, both will fall into a pit.”

Luke 11:37–54 and Matthew 23:1-39

Matthew 23:35-36 ~ And so upon you will come all the righteous blood shed on earth, from the blood of righteous Abel to the blood of Zechariah son of Berekiah, whom you murdered between the temple and the altar. Truly I tell you, all these things will come upon this generation.

Well we arenot talking about teh Pharisees of Jesus day.

And the way I see it or the way you see it is irrelevant if it is not Scripture! And god set up the separation of Gentile and Jew in the Temple and he ordered that no proselyte could inherit any of the promised land!

How discriminatory of God! He also ordered that only the high priest could go into the holy of holies and then only once a year!
 
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Your original claim was this is all "not Scripture" (which wasn't about "practices" but interpretation of Scripture that our faith is based on). But without a reason to support your claim - that's just an empty insult.

You brought in the map showing how the greek church was established in such prominent places! Even highlighting the 7 churches in Revelation!

Also the orthodox church wasn't born until the 4th century!

Now don't get me wrong- I do not have bad to say of the Septuagint- but the original is better!
 
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I hope you can bear with me, as I've never come across this theological framework before.

You seem to be (based on your posts) separating Jesus' resurrection from His New Covenant. You've stated that salvation is the same offer for everyone - but you're excluding the entire House of Israel/Judah from the New Covenant.....even though the disciples were Jewish (along with the entire early church) and the ones that Jesus literally and physically offered the cup of the covenant to.

In my belief - just because not all ACCEPTED the covenant - doesn't mean it wasn't made.

Not in the least am I discounting the Resurrection I exalt it!

I am not excluding the two branches of Israel (Israel and Judah) I know that at a future date- every Jew alive on the earth will be saved!

In every generation there has been a remnant that have been righteous. IN the church agfe it is Jews who accept Jesus as Messiah?!

Jeremiah 31:31
Behold, the days come, saith the Lord, that I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel, and with the house of Judah:
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Jeremiah 31:32
Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day that I took them by the hand to bring them out of the land of Egypt; which my covenant they brake, although I was an husband unto them, saith the Lord:
In Context | Full Chapter | Other Translations
Jeremiah 31:33
But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; After those days, saith the Lord, I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their God, and they shall be my people.

34 And they shall teach no more every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the Lord: for they shall all know me, from the least of them unto the greatest of them, saith the Lord: for I will forgive their iniquity, and I will remember their sin no more.

35 Thus saith the Lord, which giveth the sun for a light by day, and the ordinances of the moon and of the stars for a light by night, which divideth the sea when the waves thereof roar; The Lord of hosts is his name:

36 If those ordinances depart from before me, saith the Lord, then the seed of Israel also shall cease from being a nation before me for ever.

37 Thus saith the Lord; If heaven above can be measured, and the foundations of the earth searched out beneath, I will also cast off all the seed of Israel for all that they have done, saith the Lord.

This means all of Israel. He made the old with all Israel and the new is with all Israel! Jesus established the new covenant- it is in the mystery stage . Where Jew and gentile enter and have the same access.

But Israel has not recieved all these benefits yet- so for Israel it is not in effect yet! It happens "after those days" in verse 33.
 
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Awaiting Scripture.

The claim that Gentiles were inferior because of their genetics is nothing other than racist.

Well here is a research paper that is loaded with verses!

https://www.[bless and do not curse...lepic/interior-design-of-jerusalem-temple.jpg
 
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Awaiting Scripture.

The claim that Gentiles were inferior because of their genetics is nothing other than racist.

Well here is a paper loaded with Scripture!

https://www.tms.edu/m/TMS-Spring2017-Article-03.pdf

Here is a site that shows the temple of solomon. See that place at teh edge called the court of the gentils? Know why it is called that? Because that was asa far as gentiles could go into the temple!

https://www.[bless and do not curse.../interior-diagram-of-temple-in-jerusalem.html

The outermost area of the temple in Jerusalem was called the court of the Gentiles because it could be entered by all people. It was the most exterior and, by far, the largest of all the courts. This location, along with Solomon's Porch (which was a covered area that existed on either side of the court's eastern entrance) was frequented by Jerusalem's sick and the poor seeking help (Acts 3:11, 5:12, 15).

The "soreg" at Jerusalem's temple was a fence that separated the court of the Gentiles from the rest of the temple mount complex. Gentiles (non-Israelites) and ritually unclean Israelites were forbidden, on pain of death, from passing through its gates to the interior areas.

This is from
 
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And god set up the separation of Gentile and Jew in the Temple and he ordered that no proselyte could inherit any of the promised land!
Cite your Scripture to support this (where it came from instruction of the LORD).

God tore down that wall of hostility that divided (Eph 2:14).
 
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Well here is a paper loaded with Scripture!

https://www.tms.edu/m/TMS-Spring2017-Article-03.pdf

Here is a site that shows the temple of solomon. See that place at teh edge called the court of the gentils? Know why it is called that? Because that was asa far as gentiles could go into the temple!

https://www.[bless and do not curse.../interior-diagram-of-temple-in-jerusalem.html

The outermost area of the temple in Jerusalem was called the court of the Gentiles because it could be entered by all people. It was the most exterior and, by far, the largest of all the courts. This location, along with Solomon's Porch (which was a covered area that existed on either side of the court's eastern entrance) was frequented by Jerusalem's sick and the poor seeking help (Acts 3:11, 5:12, 15).

The "soreg" at Jerusalem's temple was a fence that separated the court of the Gentiles from the rest of the temple mount complex. Gentiles (non-Israelites) and ritually unclean Israelites were forbidden, on pain of death, from passing through its gates to the interior areas.

This is from

Ditto as for post 1129.
 
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This means all of Israel. He made the old with all Israel and the new is with all Israel! Jesus established the new covenant- it is in the mystery stage . Where Jew and gentile enter and have the same access.

But Israel has not recieved all these benefits yet- so for Israel it is not in effect yet! It happens "after those days" in verse 33.
This dismisses the significance of what happened especially on the Day of Pentecost:

Acts 2 ~ Peter stood with the other eleven apostles. He raised his voice and declared, “Judeans and everyone living in Jerusalem! Know this! Listen carefully to my words! .........“Fellow Israelites, listen to these words! Jesus the Nazarene was a man whose credentials God proved to you through miracles, wonders, and signs, which God performed through him among you. You yourselves know this. ........<snipped for space & clarity>
"Therefore, let all Israel know beyond question that God has made this Jesus, whom you crucified, both Lord and Christ."
37 When the crowd heard this, they were deeply troubled. They said to Peter and the other apostles, "Brothers, what should we do?"
38 Peter replied, "Change your hearts and lives. Each of you must be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins. Then you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit.
39 This promise is for you, your children, and for all who are far away—as many as the Lord our God invites."
40 With many other words he testified to them and encouraged them, saying, "Be saved from this perverse generation."
41 Those who accepted Peter's message were baptized. God brought about three thousand people into the community on that day.
 
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Well we are not talking about teh Pharisees of Jesus day.
What "day" were YOU talking about when you wrote:

Quoting nolidad: "Well as Jesus along with His Father are the ones who made that sepration and disparity under the theocratic rule of Israel- your theory is not true!"

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So now you are saying heaven is equal to Jerusalem??? Just because the words holy place appears in a verse- does not mean that it is the same everytime it appears. Context my boy, context!

In what fantasy do you see heaven? The word does not appear in the chapter. Context, pops, context!!

15 When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand:)

27 And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.

Matthew 24 and its parallel accounts confirm Daniel 9, consistent with Jesus' descriptions. Daniel 9:27 refers to multiple abominations, consistent with the Luke 21:20 reference to the Roman armies. Charles Spurgeon expounds:

“As soon as Christ’s disciples saw “the abomination of desolation,” that is, the Roman ensigns with their idolatrous emblems, “stand in the holy place,” they knew that the time for them to escape had arrived—and they did “flee into the mountains.” The Christians in Jerusalem and the surrounding towns and villages “in Judaea,” availed themselves of the first opportunity for eluding the Roman armies, and fled to the mountain city of Pella, in Perea, where they were preserved from the general destruction which overthrew the Jews. There was no time to spare before the final investment of the guilty city. The man “on the housetop” could “not come down to take anything out of his house,” and the man “in the field” could not “return back to take his clothes.” They must flee to the mountains in the greatest haste, the moment that they saw “Jerusalem compassed with armies” (Luke 21:20). “

Not when they saw anything in the temple, by which time it would have been far too late to flee.
 
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Awaiting Scripture.

The claim that Gentiles were inferior because of their genetics is nothing other than racist.

The Court of the Gentiles compassed the Temple and the courts on every side. The same also did Chel, or the Ante-murale. "That space was ten cubits broad, divided from the Court of the Gentiles by a fence, ten hand-breadths high; in which were thirteen breaches, which the kings of Greece had made: but the Jews had again repaired them, and had appointed thirteen adorations answering to them."

Maimonides writes: "Inwards" (from the Court of the Gentiles) "was a fence, that encompassed on every side, ten hand-breadths in height, and within the fence Chel, or the Ante-murale: of which it is said, in the Lamentations, 'And he caused Chel and the Wall to lament,'" Lamentations 2:8.

Josephus writes, "The second circuit was gone up to by a few steps: which the partition of a stone wall surrounded: where was an inscription, forbidding any of another nation to enter, upon pain of death." Hence happened that danger to Paul because of Trophimus the Ephesian, Acts 21:29.

"The Chel or Ante-murale" (or second enclosure about the Temple), "was more sacred than the Court of the Gentiles: for hither no heathen, nor any unclean by that which died of itself, nor who lay with a menstruous woman, might come."

https://www.bible-history.com/jewishtemple/JEWISH_TEMPLE00000021.gif
 
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The Court of the Gentiles compassed the Temple and the courts on every side. The same also did Chel, or the Ante-murale. "That space was ten cubits broad, divided from the Court of the Gentiles by a fence, ten hand-breadths high; in which were thirteen breaches, which the kings of Greece had made: but the Jews had again repaired them, and had appointed thirteen adorations answering to them."

Maimonides writes: "Inwards" (from the Court of the Gentiles) "was a fence, that encompassed on every side, ten hand-breadths in height, and within the fence Chel, or the Ante-murale: of which it is said, in the Lamentations, 'And he caused Chel and the Wall to lament,'" Lamentations 2:8.

Josephus writes, "The second circuit was gone up to by a few steps: which the partition of a stone wall surrounded: where was an inscription, forbidding any of another nation to enter, upon pain of death." Hence happened that danger to Paul because of Trophimus the Ephesian, Acts 21:29.

"The Chel or Ante-murale" (or second enclosure about the Temple), "was more sacred than the Court of the Gentiles: for hither no heathen, nor any unclean by that which died of itself, nor who lay with a menstruous woman, might come."

https://www.bible-history.com/jewishtemple/JEWISH_TEMPLE00000021.gif

Still no Scripture restricting the covenant rights, benefits, and blessings of Gentiles within Israel.

Still no Scripture identifying them as "inferior".

Or have you been citing the Talmud as Scripture??

Still waiting for Scripture.
 
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In what fantasy do you see heaven? The word does not appear in the chapter. Context, pops, context!!

The verses you quoted from were a scene from heaven.

Matthew 24 and its parallel accounts confirm Daniel 9, consistent with Jesus' descriptions. Daniel 9:27 refers to multiple abominations, consistent with the Luke 21:20 reference to the Roman armies. Charles Spurgeon expounds:

“As soon as Christ’s disciples saw “the abomination of desolation,” that is, the Roman ensigns with their idolatrous emblems, “stand in the holy place,” they knew that the time for them to escape had arrived—and they did “flee into the mountains.” The Christians in Jerusalem and the surrounding towns and villages “in Judaea,” availed themselves of the first opportunity for eluding the Roman armies, and fled to the mountain city of Pella, in Perea, where they were preserved from the general destruction which overthrew the Jews. There was no time to spare before the final investment of the guilty city. The man “on the housetop” could “not come down to take anything out of his house,” and the man “in the field” could not “return back to take his clothes.” They must flee to the mountains in the greatest haste, the moment that they saw “Jerusalem compassed with armies” (Luke 21:20). “

Wrong again! for the Matthew account speaks of the mid point of Daniels 70th week! Jesus said in teh Matthew account- once this happened the WORLD will see tribulation as it had not seen prior nor will ever see again. Lukes passage was the judgment on Jerusalem Jesus pronounced after Israel had committed the unpardonable sin in Matt. 12

Your opinion notwithstanding- the world saw greater tribulation before Rome encompassed Jerusalem and it has seen worse since!

I love Spurgeon- but here he is wrong! Spurgeon did not think that Israel would ever be back in their land again as prophesied!

Once again let us look at both!

Luke 21:
20 And when ye shall see Jerusalem compassed with armies, then know that the desolation thereof is nigh.

21 Then let them which are in Judaea flee to the mountains; and let them which are in the midst of it depart out; and let not them that are in the countries enter thereinto.

22 For these be the days of vengeance, that all things which are written may be fulfilled.

23 But woe unto them that are with child, and to them that give suck, in those days! for there shall be great distress in the land, and wrath upon this people.

24 And they shall fall by the edge of the sword, and shall be led away captive into all nations: and Jerusalem shall be trodden down of the Gentiles, until the times of the Gentiles be fulfilled.

When Rome encompassed Jeruslaem- it was the days of vengeance. Jerusalem would be trodden down by gentiles UNTIL the times of the Gentiles be fulfilled (a future restoration of Jerusalem)

So the result of Rome was to fulfill the vengeance as written!

Now MAtthew:

15 When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand:)

16 Then let them which be in Judaea flee into the mountains:

17 Let him which is on the housetop not come down to take any thing out of his house:

18 Neither let him which is in the field return back to take his clothes.

19 And woe unto them that are with child, and to them that give suck in those days!

20 But pray ye that your flight be not in the winter, neither on the sabbath day:

21 For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be.

22 And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect's sake those days shall be shortened.

The sign in Luke was Jerusalem circled by armies. The sign in Matthew is a person standing in the Holy of Holies!

Luke- Jerusalem trodden by Gentiles for an undefined time.

Matthew trouble over the world as has never been seen!

The church has been so guilty of eisegesis and sloppy reading of Scripture. Just because there are similar admonitions- does not make the events the same. And here there are massive differences.

Paul spoke of the man of sin in the holy of holies declaring himself he is God- If you reject a third temple in the 70 th week then you need the man of sin in Herods temple and that never happened.

If you reject a tribulation temple- then you need to show when this happened:

Revelation 11 King James Version (KJV)
11 And there was given me a reed like unto a rod: and the angel stood, saying, Rise, and measure the temple of God, and the altar, and them that worship therein.

2 But the court which is without the temple leave out, and measure it not; for it is given unto the Gentiles: and the holy city shall they tread under foot forty and two months.

3 And I will give power unto my two witnesses, and they shall prophesy a thousand two hundred and threescore days, clothed in sackcloth.

Rome did not enter Jerusalem until Titus came back after going back to Rome to see his father Vespasian become Cesar! Then when he returned He went in and ransacked Jerusalme. The legion was ordered not to destroy the temple, but when they burned the city- the temple caught fire and the gold melted between tyhe bricks so that when cooled they dismantled the temple to get the gold Thus fulfilling Jesus prophesy!
 
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The Court of the Gentiles compassed the Temple and the courts on every side. The same also did Chel, or the Ante-murale. "That space was ten cubits broad, divided from the Court of the Gentiles by a fence, ten hand-breadths high; in which were thirteen breaches, which the kings of Greece had made: but the Jews had again repaired them, and had appointed thirteen adorations answering to them."
I think you're misunderstanding the request.

We aren't asking for support that there WAS a wall of partition (that's understood there was). What I am asking for is Scripture that states it was GOD's instruction for it to be built. You've made the statement that Jesus and the Father CREATED the separation....but just because something happened doesn't mean God approved.

I believe it was just another discriminatory and burdensome barrier the religious leaders were imposing on people (on their own....NOT being instructed by God to do so). THAT is one of the main grievances I see that Jesus had against them - they were "shutting the door of the kingdom of heaven in people's faces" (Matthew 23:13) and He pronounced an impending doom upon them because of it (and what He said would happen, happened).
 
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The following quotes were in response to my post about the Orthodox expression of the Victory of Christ/His Resurrection.

Well that is all nice and filled with wonderful emotion- but that is not Scripture!

Traditions established and practiced for centuries are not Scripture.

Your original claim was this is all "not Scripture" (which wasn't about "practices" but interpretation of Scripture that our faith is based on). But without a reason to support your claim - that's just an empty insult.

You brought in the map showing how the greek church was established in such prominent places! Even highlighting the 7 churches in Revelation!

Also the orthodox church wasn't born until the 4th century!

Now don't get me wrong- I do not have bad to say of the Septuagint- but the original is better!
Yes. I posted the map of Asia Minor during the NT era. My point was: THAT is the origin of the doctrine of the resurrection. That is the foundation of our faith. Until the great schism of 1054, there was no confusion about "ONE holy apostolic Church". The church began with the (JEWISH) disciples as the nucleus.

To make the accusation of "that's not Scripture" without pointing out what you specifically disagree with is nothing more than a flame - an empty insult - against our Christian faith. The way of discussion is, "I believe x - supported by y". Instead, you are offering NO support for your claims or theories.
 
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This dismisses the significance of what happened especially on the Day of Pentecost:

Acts 2 ~ Peter stood with the other eleven apostles. He raised his voice and declared, “Judeans and everyone living in Jerusalem! Know this! Listen carefully to my words! .........“Fellow Israelites, listen to these words! Jesus the Nazarene was a man whose credentials God proved to you through miracles, wonders, and signs, which God performed through him among you. You yourselves know this. ........<snipped for space & clarity>
"Therefore, let all Israel know beyond question that God has made this Jesus, whom you crucified, both Lord and Christ."
37 When the crowd heard this, they were deeply troubled. They said to Peter and the other apostles, "Brothers, what should we do?"
38 Peter replied, "Change your hearts and lives. Each of you must be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins. Then you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit.
39 This promise is for you, your children, and for all who are far away—as many as the Lord our God invites."
40 With many other words he testified to them and encouraged them, saying, "Be saved from this perverse generation."
41 Those who accepted Peter's message were baptized. God brought about three thousand people into the community on that day.

Not in the least! But it is not he fulfillment of what God said He would do for Israel in Jeremiah.

Jeremiah 31:32-34 King James Version (KJV)
32 Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day that I took them by the hand to bring them out of the land of Egypt; which my covenant they brake, although I was an husband unto them, saith the Lord:

33 But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; After those days, saith the Lord, I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their God, and they shall be my people.

34 And they shall teach no more every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the Lord: for they shall all know me, from the least of them unto the greatest of them, saith the Lord: for I will forgive their iniquity, and I will remember their sin no more.

King James Version (KJV)

Maybe with people who accept covenant theology and an allegorical reintrerpretation of scripture, being pretty close is good enough, but God fulfills His promises to the letter!

This has not happened yet- so it is a future event! That is why Paul wrote long after Pentecost this:

Romans 11 King James Version (KJV)
11 I say then, Hath God cast away his people? God forbid. For I also am an Israelite, of the seed of Abraham, of the tribe of Benjamin.

2 God hath not cast away his people which he foreknew. Wot ye not what the scripture saith of Elias? how he maketh intercession to God against Israel saying,

3 Lord, they have killed thy prophets, and digged down thine altars; and I am left alone, and they seek my life.

4 But what saith the answer of God unto him? I have reserved to myself seven thousand men, who have not bowed the knee to the image of Baal.

5 Even so then at this present time also there is a remnant according to the election of grace.

6 And if by grace, then is it no more of works: otherwise grace is no more grace. But if it be of works, then it is no more grace: otherwise work is no more work.

7 What then? Israel hath not obtained that which he seeketh for; but the election hath obtained it, and the rest were blinded.

8 (According as it is written, God hath given them the spirit of slumber, eyes that they should not see, and ears that they should not hear;) unto this day.

9 And David saith, Let their table be made a snare, and a trap, and a stumblingblock, and a recompence unto them:

10 Let their eyes be darkened, that they may not see, and bow down their back alway.

11 I say then, Have they stumbled that they should fall? God forbid: but rather through their fall salvation is come unto the Gentiles, for to provoke them to jealousy.

12 Now if the fall of them be the riches of the world, and the diminishing of them the riches of the Gentiles; how much more their fulness?

13 For I speak to you Gentiles, inasmuch as I am the apostle of the Gentiles, I magnify mine office:

14 If by any means I may provoke to emulation them which are my flesh, and might save some of them.

15 For if the casting away of them be the reconciling of the world, what shall the receiving of them be, but life from the dead?

16 For if the firstfruit be holy, the lump is also holy: and if the root be holy, so are the branches.

17 And if some of the branches be broken off, and thou, being a wild olive tree, wert grafted in among them, and with them partakest of the root and fatness of the olive tree;

18 Boast not against the branches. But if thou boast, thou bearest not the root, but the root thee.

19 Thou wilt say then, The branches were broken off, that I might be grafted in.

20 Well; because of unbelief they were broken off, and thou standest by faith. Be not highminded, but fear:

21 For if God spared not the natural branches, take heed lest he also spare not thee.

22 Behold therefore the goodness and severity of God: on them which fell, severity; but toward thee, goodness, if thou continue in his goodness: otherwise thou also shalt be cut off.

23 And they also, if they abide not still in unbelief, shall be grafted in: for God is able to graft them in again.

24 For if thou wert cut out of the olive tree which is wild by nature, and wert grafted contrary to nature into a good olive tree: how much more shall these, which be the natural branches, be grafted into their own olive tree?

25 For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in.

26 And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob:

27 For this is my covenant unto them, when I shall take away their sins.

28 As concerning the gospel, they are enemies for your sakes: but as touching the election, they are beloved for the father's sakes.

29 For the gifts and calling of God are without repentance.


 
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What "day" were YOU talking about when you wrote:

Quoting nolidad: "Well as Jesus along with His Father are the ones who made that sepration and disparity under the theocratic rule of Israel- your theory is not true!"

Since the temple was built as far as Gentiles not being able to enter the inner court.

And for the land inheritance- since God had Joshua and the Israelis enter the land and conquer the land that belongs to them!
 
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