Mexico deploys 15,000 troops to U.S border

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It's a regular occurrence in many NDN circles to laugh at the descendants of Europeans whining and complaining about Mexican immigrants and their descendants coming into this country.
See what happens when you don't control your borders?
 
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See what happens when you don't control your borders?

I don't have a problem with Mexicans coming into this country. The more the better, IMO. I welcome my Indigenous relatives from the South. It's watching an old prophecy unfold right before my eyes.
 
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It's getting that one doesn't feel the day is complete unless he's been called a racist.

Don't want to be called a racist? Don't support racist policies. It's really that simple.
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Actually, illegal entry into the US is indeed a crime, under the
Immigration and Nationality Act of 1952 (most recently amended in 2011):

Any alien who
1. enters or attempts to enter the United States at any time or place other than as designated by immigration officers, or
2. eludes examination or inspection by immigration officers, or
3. attempts to enter or obtains entry to the United States by a willfully false or misleading representation or the willful concealment of a material fact, shall, for the first commission of any such offense, be fined under title 18 or imprisoned not more than 6 months, or both, and, for a subsequent commission of any such offense, be fined under title 18, or imprisoned not more than 2 years, or both.

Traveling in a caravan to seek asylum here does not strike me as "eluding examination or inspection by immigration officers", and it definitely doesn't seem worthy of putting them in concentration camps. But this is not the first time the law was used to justify cruelty.
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So, Ukraine lost Crimea, because they could not defend it against Russia. So, its not their land anymore?

The Ukraine lost the Crimea because the US initiated a coup d'etat in Kiev and installed a puppet regime, which the people of the Crimea wanted nothing to do with. Russia merely enforced their wishes. The Crimean parliament voted to secede, and that vote was even ratified by a referendum. It was all in scrupulous accordance with international law.

By that logic, so are you. You DO know that the Slavs are not native to the area known now as the "Czech Republic", right?

Especially not the Sudetenland...
 
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It's getting that one doesn't feel the day is complete unless he's been called a racist.

If you're a white guy and you haven't been called racist recently, check your pulse - you might be dead.

Ever notice that not as many Mexicans are crossing our border? The reason is NAFTA. Mexicans' standard of living, while not as high as Americans', is not so low as to drive them to move to a hostile, aggressive country led by a would-be dictator surrounded by some conservatives who shout "Go away criminals!"

I haven't noticed that at all. That doesn't follow just because the media is focusing on Central America now.
 
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Reading your posts, I wasnt sure if you are serious or prodding responses from people to get them worked up.

Nope; not a crime unless the law is changed so that immigrants have fewer ways to enter legally.

This statement above is purely ridiculous. Do you even realize what you typed? It's like you just mindlessly spew out random illogical statements all about like someone bumbling about in the darkness.

The law states they are entering illegally. Therefore it is a law, and therefore they are illegal. So yes, it is a crime.

Also, changing laws for lawbreakers is ridiculous. How about I enter your house without your permission and "borrow" your TV or something for a couple months? Then I demand that the laws be changed so that its not a crime. It's ridiculous right?

It is if you throw children into concentration camps.

It's not called racism to place the children in holding areas. Maybe there's mismanagement going on, but it's not racism. You know that too.

And, to stop this mismanagement, maybe you should contact your democrat leaders and tell them to give those agencies more funding to make those holding areas more presentable? After all, they are the ones fighting against funding them.

On a side note too, your "white American racist" comment was a good chuckle. If one likes making themselves look like a clown, they usually spew ignorance such as that and show their own contempt (racism) against such groups of people.
 
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Reading your posts, I wasnt sure if you are serious or prodding responses from people to get them worked up.

I don't play when it comes to death camps. What is wrong with you that you'd think that legitimate concern and anger is a stunt?


This statement above is purely ridiculous. Do you even realize what you typed? It's like you just mindlessly spew out random illogical statements all about like someone bumbling about in the darkness.

The law states they are entering illegally. Therefore it is a law, and therefore they are illegal. So yes, it is a crime.

If it's "illegal", then the law has been changed to shut off ways that they can seek asylum and immigrate legally, which is exactly what's been done in the past couple of years.

It's not called racism to place the children in holding areas. Maybe there's mismanagement going on, but it's not racism. You know that too.

Wanna bet? When you deliberately place kids in concentration camps and leave them there in the name of our vaunted "sovereignty", then yeah....it's racism.

And, to stop this mismanagement, maybe you should contact your democrat leaders and tell them to give those agencies more funding to make those holding areas more presentable? After all, they are the ones fighting against funding them.

"Funding" is not the cause of leaving kids without adequate medical care, food, water, and separated from their families. Try again.

On a side note too, your "white American racist" comment was a good chuckle. If one likes making themselves look like a clown, they usually spew ignorance such as that and show their own contempt (racism) against such groups of people.

Yeah OK. The only "clown" here is the one defending death camps. That's on you, friend.

Ironic that someone whose username is a verse from the Bible would have such little regard for human life at the border. I seem to recall another verse that says something along the lines of "Not everyone who calls 'Lord! Lord!' will be saved".
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They are not illegals.

Their ancestors roamed the whole American continent freely. The original crime is when the Europeans took American lands by force.

The land you guard is stolen. It's absurd to say, it's illegal to cross into stolen lands :/

A vast number of them are of Spanish descent. And even if they are purely from an indian tribe, they are not native to the lands Americans hold. Aztecs are not native to Texas, Arizona, New Mexico, or even California. Neither are Incan's or any other people from central america or further south.

So your statement is moot.

My point is not to identify them individually. Maybe they know it, maybe their parents lied to them about their history.
Not for me to solve.

But all Americans should know that they are living in a stolen house and be more humble towards "illegal" immigrants of today instead of talking about them like about some dirt.

Your one to talk lol. Your Slavic ancestors (if indeed you are slavic) settled and usurped the land your in from Celts and Germanic peoples. Did you even know that your people (if you are slavic) came from the Carpathian regions?

So why dont you give your lands back too?

Little hypocrisy much?
 
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"Why don't you call your 'Democrat' leaders and tell them to fund the border adequately?"

Yeah....about that:
House looks set to pass emergency funding bill for migrants

I'd like to call people's attention to the caption under the picture:
caption said:
The White House is threatening to veto a $4.5 billion House bill aimed at improving the treatment of migrant families detained after crossing the U.S. southern border. (Source: CNN/POOL)


The cruelty is the point. It's a feature; not a bug. Has nothing to do with funding, the Democrats, or actual protection of our sovereignty. It's racism for the sake of racism.
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Wanna bet? When you deliberately place kids in concentration camps and leave them there in the name of our vaunted "sovereignty", then yeah....it's racism

You need to look the word racism up. You may be surprised.

"Funding" is not the cause of leaving kids without adequate medical care, food, water, and separated from their families. Try again.

Sir, it takes money and resources that must be approved by the powers at be. So yes, funding is an issue.

If the situation is indeed so bad, I would support such measure to increase funding and supply people with the basic needs one needs to live while they wait for the proper channels to enter in.

And, by the way, funding would also insert more personnel to increase the speed of processing in people legally. Didn't think of that did we?

If it's "illegal", then the law has been changed to shut off ways that they can seek asylum and immigrate legally, which is exactly what's been done in the past couple of years.

No sir, wrong. This has always been the law of the land. Did you know Obama deported more people than Trump in the first years?

You didnt complain then I bet. Why not?

None the less, it's illegal, and always has been. Look up the history of it before you continue to misinform yourself and others.

Yeah OK. The only "clown" here is the one defending death camps. That's on you, friend.

Ironic that someone whose username is a verse from the Bible would have such little regard for human life at the border. I seem to recall another verse that says something along the lines of "Not everyone who calls 'Lord! Lord!' will be saved".
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Another clown joke!

You assume way too much. Stop pretending to be like God thinking you know my heart and thoughts.

Like I said before, I am in support to give the basic needs of people. You have to talk to your democrat congress members to help give the funding those agencies need to give those needs though.

Word of advice friend, try not to assume so much next time. I know its hard, but you had me figured out all wrong.
 
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You need to look the word racism up. You may be surprised.

I'm aware of the definition. The concentration camps fit that definition.

Sir, it takes money and resources that must be approved by the powers at be. So yes, funding is an issue.

The White House is threatening to veto a $4.5 billion House bill aimed at improving the treatment of migrant families detained after crossing the U.S. southern border. (Source: CNN/POOL)

Source: House looks set to pass emergency funding bill for migrants

But "funding" does not explain separating children from their families and putting them in concentration camps to starve. Cruelty does.

No sir, wrong. This has always been the law of the land. Did you know Obama deported more people than Trump in the first years?

You didnt complain then I bet. Why not?

None the less, it's illegal, and always has been. Look up the history of it before you continue to misinform yourself and others.

I'm aware of the fact that Obama wasn't great on immigration, but saying "B-b-b-b-but Obama" doesn't excuse what's happening now.

I really don't care what's "illegal" or not. Doesn't excuse what's happening, illegal or not.

Another clown joke!

You assume way too much. Stop pretending to be like God thinking you know my heart and thoughts.

Like I said before, I am in support to give the basic needs of people. You have to talk to your democrat congress members to help give the funding those agencies need to give those needs though.

Word of advice friend, try not to assume so much next time. I know its hard, but you had me figured out all wrong.

We're not friends.

Doesn't take much assumption to see that when someone makes a Bible verse their username and defends concentration camps, they're hypocrites.
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"Why don't you call your 'Democrat' leaders and tell them to fund the border adequately?"

Yeah....about that:
House looks set to pass emergency funding bill for migrants

I'd like to call people's attention to the caption under the picture:


The cruelty is the point. It's a feature; not a bug. Has nothing to do with funding, the Democrats, or actual protection of our sovereignty. It's racism for the sake of racism.
Ringo
"Why don't you call your 'Democrat' leaders and tell them to fund the border adequately?"

Yeah....about that:
House looks set to pass emergency funding bill for migrants

I'd like to call people's attention to the caption under the picture:


The cruelty is the point. It's a feature; not a bug. Has nothing to do with funding, the Democrats, or actual protection of our sovereignty. It's racism for the sake of racism.
Ringo

I like how the news article left out WHY the bill was threatened to be vetoed.

Look at the bill and what it supports.

Heres another perspective if you care to read

White House threatens veto on House border bill
Quote:
In a statement issued by the White House Monday night, the administration warned that the bill would be vetoed this week if passed.

“After ignoring the Administration’s request for desperately needed funding to address the humanitarian crisis at the border for over a month, and despite the efforts of the House minority, the House majority has put forward a partisan bill that underfunds necessary accounts and seeks to take advantage of the current crisis by inserting policy provisions that would make our country less safe,” the statement reads.

So really, from what I read here, it is the democrats that hold the Administration hostage by not taking out THEIR little policies that undermine our safe gaurds.
 
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Doesn't take much assumption to see that when someone makes a Bible verse their username and defends concentration camps, they're hypocrites.
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I am coming to this discussion late. Would you please direct me to the posts in which someone or anyone "defends concentration camps?" Thanks. I need to read them.
 
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We're not friends.

Doesn't take much assumption to see that when someone makes a Bible verse their username and defends concentration camps, they're hypocrites.
Ringo

Sorry to hear that.

Now, where did I ever say I defend death camps? Oh thats right, I never did say that. You just assumed it.

I did say though, that I agree to send basic needs supplies to be met while we can get people processed.

Really sir, how can you mix up my statements so badly?

aware of the fact that Obama wasn't great on immigration, but saying "B-b-b-b-but Obama" doesn't excuse what's happening now.

I really don't care what's "illegal" or not. Doesn't excuse what's happening, illegal or not.

You missed a point here. The point being that you never called obama a racist nor did you complain of him deporting illegals. At least, that is my assumption. Honestly though, try to tell me otherwise.

I'm aware of the definition. The concentration camps fit that definition.

Racism is due to the fact of placing someone in "camps" just because of the color of their skin sir.

That is NOT what is happening there. No, you do not know what the word meant, clearly.
 
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