Struggling a lot with my mental health and desperate for help

pantingdeer · Jun 24, 2019

Tempura said:
You will. We might think God is slow, especially when we feel lost and we're just trying to figure things out about God, ourselves and life, but He is not slow, He's thorough. He's not hiding, He's currently working in you, building something magnificent. He doesn't just quickly throw things at us, we'd lose those things the next day, never realizing what we had. He makes the foundation, and on that foundation we can really grow. Your feeling of "I want to know God", even that, is from Him.

Oh, we also have that "how are you feeling" - thread here. Drop by. People often go there to say hi to each other, and sometimes just talk about their lives. I've gotten to know some good brothers and sisters in there, and on this depression forum especially. There's little to no judgement here, most of us have had (or still have) our troubles. But there's one good thing about suffering and sadness and confusion; it makes people empathetic. It really shows, they're very welcoming. The same will happen to you. Your heart won't get cold. Drop by whenever you like. PMs are also a thing, if you want to talk to someone specific, me included. Sometimes we need to talk badly, and for someone to listen.

Maybe you are right as you are saved and I am not but sometimes it feels like you pray a lot for help and it’s like you don’t get a response. I prayed probably a million times for healing and I haven’t been healed yet. I’ll try to find that thread you mention.

Tempura · Jun 24, 2019

Andrew98 said:
Maybe you are right as you are saved and I am not but sometimes it feels like you pray a lot for help and it’s like you don’t get a response. I prayed probably a million times for healing and I haven’t been healed yet. I’ll try to find that thread you mention.

Often we get something else what we ask for, and almost all of the time nothing happens right away. We all know God is not a delivery service. Sometimes miracles happen, but we learn quickly to not depend on miracles. He still wants us to come to Him, because there is something in us that will not die or decay. Often we ask for bad things to go away right now, but we will get strength and resilience instead to deal with these things. Without suffering, we would have no patience either. With my healing, it took a long, long time. But since it took a long time, there is a foundation now that won't break. I will not get hopeless anymore. If I didn't struggle for so long, I wouldn't have even come to God, I would have never really searched for Him in the first place. Some people here who are still ill, have also another kind of foundation laid into them; they can take it. Some are very ill and at the same time very hopeful, and of infinitely important use for God in acts of love, comfort and encouragement - because they needed those things first. Some of the most dear brothers and sisters here are indeed very ill, and they do have struggles. But you should see them! Full of love, encouragement and hope. Even when they think they're having a bad "season", the love just pushes through.

If I didn't suffer for long, I doubt I would have much sympathy for people who do, because I don't think I'm that good of a person. I'm not saying God made me suffer, I'm saying He can use our pain for His ends, our betterment and for someone else. Something good grows out of something bad. It can take time, but in the process, we will learn about spiritual strength/gifts and all the fruits they bear.

Will continue praying for you brother, don't give up. Hope I didn't confuse or bother you with my ramblings, I ramble a lot. Oh and the thread is right here in the depression forum, where this thread is located now.

HowRU? · Jun 24, 2019

Andrew98 said:
I wish I could shrug off the bad things people say to me but it’s hard. I still go over in my head the things people said to me years ago and it makes me angry, hate myself and them.

Yes, the hurtful things people say can really cling to us. I forgive people (especially the really hurtful stuff) because Jesus commands his followers to forgive everyone, since God has forgiven me everything.
One thing I do on occasion, which is really powerful (taught me by my pastor), is to pray this way: Kneel, close your eyes, then picture in your head that you are kneeling right before God’s majestic throne. Stretch out your hands and tell God that you are giving him this hurt, or insult, or fear, or weakness. Picture it (if possible) in your hands, and lay it before His throne. Then tell Him that you will welcome from Him whatever He wants to give you in return. Even though you may feel uncertain about where you stand with God, He does not despise a humble seeker who asks for help. Sometimes, I will be led to confess sin, or express whatever else I want. I often will pause then, clear my mind and wait for a thought, word, image, impression, etc from God.
Give it a try; I was amazed how it helped me.

pantingdeer · Jun 26, 2019

HowRU? said:
Yes, the hurtful things people say can really cling to us. I forgive people (especially the really hurtful stuff) because Jesus commands his followers to forgive everyone, since God has forgiven me everything.
One thing I do on occasion, which is really powerful (taught me by my pastor), is to pray this way: Kneel, close your eyes, then picture in your head that you are kneeling right before God’s majestic throne. Stretch out your hands and tell God that you are giving him this hurt, or insult, or fear, or weakness. Picture it (if possible) in your hands, and lay it before His throne. Then tell Him that you will welcome from Him whatever He wants to give you in return. Even though you may feel uncertain about where you stand with God, He does not despise a humble seeker who asks for help. Sometimes, I will be led to confess sin, or express whatever else I want. I often will pause then, clear my mind and wait for a thought, word, image, impression, etc from God.
Give it a try; I was amazed how it helped me.

Sounds like you have good friendship with pastor. They make me feel intimidated. What do you mean by "wait for what he wants to give you in return". Thanks.

pantingdeer · Jun 26, 2019

Tempura said:
Often we get something else what we ask for, and almost all of the time nothing happens right away. We all know God is not a delivery service. Sometimes miracles happen, but we learn quickly to not depend on miracles. He still wants us to come to Him, because there is something in us that will not die or decay. Often we ask for bad things to go away right now, but we will get strength and resilience instead to deal with these things. Without suffering, we would have no patience either. With my healing, it took a long, long time. But since it took a long time, there is a foundation now that won't break. I will not get hopeless anymore. If I didn't struggle for so long, I wouldn't have even come to God, I would have never really searched for Him in the first place. Some people here who are still ill, have also another kind of foundation laid into them; they can take it. Some are very ill and at the same time very hopeful, and of infinitely important use for God in acts of love, comfort and encouragement - because they needed those things first. Some of the most dear brothers and sisters here are indeed very ill, and they do have struggles. But you should see them! Full of love, encouragement and hope. Even when they think they're having a bad "season", the love just pushes through.

If I didn't suffer for long, I doubt I would have much sympathy for people who do, because I don't think I'm that good of a person. I'm not saying God made me suffer, I'm saying He can use our pain for His ends, our betterment and for someone else. Something good grows out of something bad. It can take time, but in the process, we will learn about spiritual strength/gifts and all the fruits they bear.

Will continue praying for you brother, don't give up. Hope I didn't confuse or bother you with my ramblings, I ramble a lot. Oh and the thread is right here in the depression forum, where this thread is located now.

Thanks and don't worry about rambling. It just feels after years of not getting any better that I'm just talking to a brick wall with no answer. When you say people here show love, do they show it because they want to be nice or because being a Christian actually changed them inside. I have doubts I can become a Christian as I don't really belive - it is hard to believe and take it all so seriously when it is just a book telling us this. Also I find it hard to love people on earth do its hard to love something I can't see!

Tempura · Jun 26, 2019

Andrew98 said:
Thanks and don't worry about rambling. It just feels after years of not getting any better that I'm just talking to a brick wall with no answer. When you say people here show love, do they show it because they want to be nice or because being a Christian actually changed them inside. I have doubts I can become a Christian as I don't really belive - it is hard to believe and take it all so seriously when it is just a book telling us this. Also I find it hard to love people on earth do its hard to love something I can't see!

It took me 15+ years to get better. Some have their illnesses until they die, but with faith, they can handle it and not lose hope, and still have peace and gratitude for what they do have. We shouldn't think of God just as someone who either gives us the thing we want, exactly how we want it, or if He doesn't, He didn't give us anything. We're often trying to make deals then, even unknowingly: "do me this, and I'll believe in you". I'm not saying you do this, but I've been guilty of it often. I've been staring at one thing to change in all the ways I want to, praying for it, and I've been entirely blind to everything else (that might have helped with what was troubling me in time). With faith, there comes a certain acceptance that God knows best, and also in time a tremendous patience because we can't know how, when and where and through whom He works.

Don't stop praying though. If you don't believe this might sound useless, but it still is communicating to God. Your spirit seeking for His. He knows what you want and need already, but praying can be like training, an active form of hope. God knows we need it. Just a human being, as they are, talking to their God. It can be humbling in a really good way, and relieving when you learn to leave your burdens, many of which you can't do anything about, to Him and let him take care of them how He pleases.

Good question about love. Many don't even think of that question. I can't know how many are "just nice" to be polite, or how many are inspired by God to love others beyond their own sinful, selfish boundaries. But the ones I've noticed, I'm almost certain it's God at work. They take actual pleasure in even trying to help somehow, and they consider love as their holy duty, not as some arbitrary rule they're begrudgingly trying to follow, hating it while they're doing it. If they see even one getting comforted and in higher spirits, they feel actual joy, and then they go and thank God for it all. This doesn't mean they are all perfect Christs, or without failures, pride, selfishness or sin, but it does mean that they have a real drive to love better and more purely, and it's not their own doing, they didn't start that fire, they just received it and put their faith in it. When the grace of God has moved a person, they will start to "see" people better who are in need, and they get the urge to do even something about it, if even to try to encourage them or at the very least pray for them. And even if someone is just polite and seemingly nothing beyond that, and they still believe, what were they like before they came to Christ? If someone is stumbling on his way to show some love, even forcing a bit of it, that's a great change if there was nothing before that. Then some people who care can be invisible for us. You don't have any idea how many people have sincerely prayed for you after seeing what you wrote. You just can't know. But indeed, if there is change, God is behind it.

But like Jesus Christ said, you will know them by their fruits. We all know not every Christian is a Christian. I'm not talking about denominations here, but about people who for whatever reason proclaim their superior Christian morality, but neglect it in practice, despise the weak and do not care for their neighbor. Plenty of frauds out there. Then again, some are just stumbling, and many are "babes in Christ" and generally in need of spiritual growth and reminders. But if someone takes pleasure in hurting you (or others) and calls themselves a Christian, they clearly have a lot to learn about Christ and themselves. Christ is excellent in doing that too, teaching. If we think something of ourselves, or think we're better than others, then the more we read His words, the more our conscience will condemn us if we're truthful. If I now accused you of something, or insulted you, and then went on to read the Bible I would be put in my place in one second. That's what knowing Christ does to us: we start to understand how weak and faulty we are even when we think we're good, and at the same time we start to understand how gracious, truthful and loving God is. There's not much room to downplay others when we know our own miserable state, and there's no room to not want to love people when we know what God has done for us and when we put our faith in divine forgiveness. It does change you, and it's ongoing, you never stop learning and growing in the spirit until the day you die and leave this world.

It's hard for us to love others, true. Sometimes even those who love us back, we can treat them horribly. The hardest thing is to love those who hate us. But even that should be our goal. And it won't happen overnight, and almost never perfectly all the time. But there's something, namely the Spirit of Christ in us working that change, even the idea of it, to let go of our grievances and try to see even enemies as people. But here's the thing, the more we understand our own state, the more we need God, the more depend on God, and when we believe we are loved and that comforts us, we want to love others in return, and when we see all of that happen, we start to love God as well. It's hard to love what you don't know, and getting to know God better and better can take a lifetime (and even then our knowledge isn't perfect), but luckily God wants all of us to know Him and He can reveal Himself in many ways. If you want to know Him, you will. He will do the job for you. His word is already there for you to read and think about, His spirit is moving, and you're already asking questions and thinking about these things.

You say it's just a book. Try it then. Read the gospels, the letters and books of your choice a few times with thought. Pray as well, that if you have to understand something, you would. God's word doesn't return void. It leaves a spark in you and something will come out of it one day, whether you know it or not. I thought it was just a book too. I don't think so anymore. And I'm learning everything new all the time, it never gets old.

Hope you're feeling even a bit better today Andrew. Said a prayer for you.

HowRU? · Jun 26, 2019

Andrew98 said:
Sounds like you have good friendship with pastor. They make me feel intimidated. What do you mean by "wait for what he wants to give you in return". Thanks.

Hello again Andrew,
I just meant, especially, something that is relevant to the issue that you might lay before Him. Perhaps a bit of peace and healing of emotional hurts in no way that you can explain, an actual word or phrase that comes to your mind which brings hope or direction or relief of what’s stressing you out, a vision or image that comes to your mind that cheers you up somehow, etc. God is able to do this, and has done it for me many times. God knows what we really need.
I see that you are a Seeker. Do you believe in the existence of God or do you agree with the idea that God must exist?

pantingdeer · Jun 29, 2019

HowRU? said:
Hello again Andrew,
I just meant, especially, something that is relevant to the issue that you might lay before Him. Perhaps a bit of peace and healing of emotional hurts in no way that you can explain, an actual word or phrase that comes to your mind which brings hope or direction or relief of what’s stressing you out, a vision or image that comes to your mind that cheers you up somehow, etc. God is able to do this, and has done it for me many times. God knows what we really need.
I see that you are a Seeker. Do you believe in the existence of God or do you agree with the idea that God must exist?

I don’t have super strong faith but having grown up on church I do have some belief that God is real. I don’t like getting into arguments with atheists over whether God must exist or not since they will never be swayed and also because I don’t think you can really prove or disprove much - it’s really whether you decide to believe or not.

pantingdeer · Jun 29, 2019

Tempura said:
It took me 15+ years to get better. Some have their illnesses until they die, but with faith, they can handle it and not lose hope, and still have peace and gratitude for what they do have. We shouldn't think of God just as someone who either gives us the thing we want, exactly how we want it, or if He doesn't, He didn't give us anything. We're often trying to make deals then, even unknowingly: "do me this, and I'll believe in you". I'm not saying you do this, but I've been guilty of it often. I've been staring at one thing to change in all the ways I want to, praying for it, and I've been entirely blind to everything else (that might have helped with what was troubling me in time). With faith, there comes a certain acceptance that God knows best, and also in time a tremendous patience because we can't know how, when and where and through whom He works.

Don't stop praying though. If you don't believe this might sound useless, but it still is communicating to God. Your spirit seeking for His. He knows what you want and need already, but praying can be like training, an active form of hope. God knows we need it. Just a human being, as they are, talking to their God. It can be humbling in a really good way, and relieving when you learn to leave your burdens, many of which you can't do anything about, to Him and let him take care of them how He pleases.

Good question about love. Many don't even think of that question. I can't know how many are "just nice" to be polite, or how many are inspired by God to love others beyond their own sinful, selfish boundaries. But the ones I've noticed, I'm almost certain it's God at work. They take actual pleasure in even trying to help somehow, and they consider love as their holy duty, not as some arbitrary rule they're begrudgingly trying to follow, hating it while they're doing it. If they see even one getting comforted and in higher spirits, they feel actual joy, and then they go and thank God for it all. This doesn't mean they are all perfect Christs, or without failures, pride, selfishness or sin, but it does mean that they have a real drive to love better and more purely, and it's not their own doing, they didn't start that fire, they just received it and put their faith in it. When the grace of God has moved a person, they will start to "see" people better who are in need, and they get the urge to do even something about it, if even to try to encourage them or at the very least pray for them. And even if someone is just polite and seemingly nothing beyond that, and they still believe, what were they like before they came to Christ? If someone is stumbling on his way to show some love, even forcing a bit of it, that's a great change if there was nothing before that. Then some people who care can be invisible for us. You don't have any idea how many people have sincerely prayed for you after seeing what you wrote. You just can't know. But indeed, if there is change, God is behind it.

But like Jesus Christ said, you will know them by their fruits. We all know not every Christian is a Christian. I'm not talking about denominations here, but about people who for whatever reason proclaim their superior Christian morality, but neglect it in practice, despise the weak and do not care for their neighbor. Plenty of frauds out there. Then again, some are just stumbling, and many are "babes in Christ" and generally in need of spiritual growth and reminders. But if someone takes pleasure in hurting you (or others) and calls themselves a Christian, they clearly have a lot to learn about Christ and themselves. Christ is excellent in doing that too, teaching. If we think something of ourselves, or think we're better than others, then the more we read His words, the more our conscience will condemn us if we're truthful. If I now accused you of something, or insulted you, and then went on to read the Bible I would be put in my place in one second. That's what knowing Christ does to us: we start to understand how weak and faulty we are even when we think we're good, and at the same time we start to understand how gracious, truthful and loving God is. There's not much room to downplay others when we know our own miserable state, and there's no room to not want to love people when we know what God has done for us and when we put our faith in divine forgiveness. It does change you, and it's ongoing, you never stop learning and growing in the spirit until the day you die and leave this world.

It's hard for us to love others, true. Sometimes even those who love us back, we can treat them horribly. The hardest thing is to love those who hate us. But even that should be our goal. And it won't happen overnight, and almost never perfectly all the time. But there's something, namely the Spirit of Christ in us working that change, even the idea of it, to let go of our grievances and try to see even enemies as people. But here's the thing, the more we understand our own state, the more we need God, the more depend on God, and when we believe we are loved and that comforts us, we want to love others in return, and when we see all of that happen, we start to love God as well. It's hard to love what you don't know, and getting to know God better and better can take a lifetime (and even then our knowledge isn't perfect), but luckily God wants all of us to know Him and He can reveal Himself in many ways. If you want to know Him, you will. He will do the job for you. His word is already there for you to read and think about, His spirit is moving, and you're already asking questions and thinking about these things.

You say it's just a book. Try it then. Read the gospels, the letters and books of your choice a few times with thought. Pray as well, that if you have to understand something, you would. God's word doesn't return void. It leaves a spark in you and something will come out of it one day, whether you know it or not. I thought it was just a book too. I don't think so anymore. And I'm learning everything new all the time, it never gets old.

Hope you're feeling even a bit better today Andrew. Said a prayer for you.

Firstly, sorry for the delayed reply.

Tempura said:
Some have their illnesses until they die, but with faith, they can handle it and not lose hope, and still have peace and gratitude for what they do have

I wish I could be this way but honestly my problems make me feel like an outsider. I don’t really have close friends and my sister has gotten married recently and my other sister is leaving the country so I may get more lonely. I wish I had feelings for women so I would be like other people and could have girlfriend and be happy and married but I guess I’m meant to be alone.

Tempura said:
"do me this, and I'll believe in you"

That is exactly what I’m like. I always say things like “be with me when doing this exam and let everything be of my remembrance” or “fix these problems of mine and I will know you healed me as I have been lost in this problem for 4 years.” Maybe this is my selfish nature.

Tempura said:
They take actual pleasure in even trying to help

I sometimes wonder if some people are naturally nice and some people are naturally mean (like me). I rarely take pleasure in helping people and if I do help people it’s because I understand it is a nice thing to do and not because I want to help them.

Tempura said:
if someone takes pleasure in hurting you

This will make me sound horrible but this is like me. I sometimes think it’s funny when people do badly at things and don’t do well. This makes me think I am evil and possessed. I wonder why I have no friends.

Tempura said:
think we're better than others

On many levels I think badly of myself with regards to appearance, personality, kindness, generosity, etc. But in terms of ego I usually think I’m better at other people at things (maybe I am though) and don’t think nicely towards others.

Tempura said:
there's no room to not want to love people when we know what God has done for us

I feel like I cannot love people. I genuinely say that I find it hard to care about anyone including my family. I only seem to care about my family when they are gone. I don’t seem to appreciate when my family are good to me. I am jealous of others who love others as it would be nice to not have to pretend to feel things you don’t.
There’s not a chance I could tell my family how I really feel inside as they would not understand and would not like me when I can’t help it.

Tempura said:
Sometimes even those who love us back, we can treat them horribly

I wish I could show genuine love for my family and other people

Tempura said:
It's hard to love what you don't know, and getting to know God better and better can take a lifetime

If I can’t love people I can see how can I love God who I can’t? I do not know God and as I don’t care about anything I don’t know if I care about God at all or if Im just playing evil games in my mind about God when I don’t feel much.

Tempura said:
If you want to know Him, you will. He will do the job for you. His word is already there for you to read and think about, His spirit is moving, and you're already asking questions and thinking about these things.

As I do not know God it makes me feel like aim not genuine and a I am just playing games with him.

Tempura said:
God's word doesn't return void. It leaves a spark in you and something will come out of it one day, whether you know it or not

I’ve read maybe 5/6 books in the bible and at least 1 of the gospels (I think 2 but maybe all 4) and I’ve never felt anything. All I feel like I’m doing is just reading and I do not emotionally connect with it or feel a spark inside me.

I’m sorry for portraying myself so horribly in this text. But I genuinely think I may have some disorder or mental condition that makes loving and caring hard for me. Thank you for caring about me when I just sound like an idiot loser on the internet. I don’t think I have or I could be as sympathetic as you have been to me.

Jeshu · Jun 30, 2019

Andrew98 said:
I’m sorry for portraying myself so horribly in this text. But I genuinely think I may have some disorder or mental condition that makes loving and caring hard for me. Thank you for caring about me when I just sound like an idiot loser on the internet. I don’t think I have or I could be as sympathetic as you have been to me.

i want to encourage you that the idea with Jesus is that you die in your old hurting gone wrong life and receive a new life from Him. Loving God for his grace because you believe in his Son Jesus will bring you such a life. Each day again.

i suffer from a depressive illness and have wallowed in my misery for many years holding on to my bad life and looking at myself instead of Jesus. Yet Jesus made my life new in Him and brought me His loving truth when i dared to believe He died for my sins, which then transformed my life and made me anew. A person able to love and do good because His Spirit lives within me.

It is great to receive a new life when the old has only produced suffering and pain for in Him and with Him even suffering depression brings me good instead of bad things.

all praise to Him.

To God's Depressed Child,

To think less of yourself then God's own
Brings you much pain and suffering.
Your worth is an incredible high price
Also for you did Jesus die on the cross.

Depression is also what devil's lies brings inside
letting a low-self-esteem your good life rob
Untruths roaming freely through heart and mind
Evil lies extinguishing all happiness and fun.

His loving truth brings you His good life
While to believe lies brings pain and grief
So hold onto the promises Jesus made to you
and don't let Satan your good life squander.

Take hold of God's precious loving truth.
A life in Him stays safe from lies that hurt.
Jesus' truth will comfort your bleeding heart
Lovingly remaking your fallen life anew.

Tempura · Jun 30, 2019

I'm going to PM you, since I would clutter this thread with my long replies. Please continue talking to everyone else in here, it's just for convenience.

pantingdeer · Jun 30, 2019

Jeshu said:
i want to encourage you that the idea with Jesus is that you die in your old hurting gone wrong life and receive a new life from Him. Loving God for his grace because you believe in his Son Jesus will bring you such a life. Each day again.

i suffer from a depressive illness and have wallowed in my misery for many years holding on to my bad life and looking at myself instead of Jesus. Yet Jesus made my life new in Him and brought me His loving truth when i dared to believe He died for my sins, which then transformed my life and made me anew. A person able to love and do good because His Spirit lives within me.

It is great to receive a new life when the old has only produced suffering and pain for in Him and with Him even suffering depression brings me good instead of bad things.

all praise to Him.

To God's Depressed Child,

To think less of yourself then God's own
Brings you much pain and suffering.
Your worth is an incredible high price
Also for you did Jesus die on the cross.

Depression is also what devil's lies brings inside
letting a low-self-esteem your good life rob
Untruths roaming freely through heart and mind
Evil lies extinguishing all happiness and fun.

His loving truth brings you His good life
While to believe lies brings pain and grief
So hold onto the promises Jesus made to you
and don't let Satan your good life squander.

Take hold of God's precious loving truth.
A life in Him stays safe from lies that hurt.
Jesus' truth will comfort your bleeding heart
Lovingly remaking your fallen life anew.

Thank you for message. How can Jesus heal me when all of it doesn’t feel real to me? May I ask also if you have gotten over your depressive illness or do you think these things are permanent.
My parents aren’t very supportive of me when I told them I thought I was depressed. They just looked at me funny and told me I’m not and that’s that. I said I should maybe see a doctor about it and they act like mental illness isn’t a disease and that seeing a physicalist is demonic and giving up your mind to evil spirits. They also don’t approve of medications for depression and think the only solution is being saved. I don’t know if they are right or if they are being narrow minded.

Jeshu · Jun 30, 2019

Andrew98 said:
Thank you for message. How can Jesus heal me when all of it doesn’t feel real to me? May I ask also if you have gotten over your depressive illness or do you think these things are permanent.
My parents aren’t very supportive of me when I told them I thought I was depressed. They just looked at me funny and told me I’m not and that’s that. I said I should maybe see a doctor about it and they act like mental illness isn’t a disease and that seeing a physicalist is demonic and giving up your mind to evil spirits. They also don’t approve of medications for depression and think the only solution is being saved. I don’t know if they are right or if they are being narrow minded.

Hi Andrew i'm sorry to hear that Jesus doesn't sound real to you and that your parents deny you the right to see a doctor, use medication and even deny you might have a serious illness. i can understand how all of this intervenes in your healing process and doesn't make it easy to trust Jesus or anyone to make you better.

Truthfully there are many reason people can be depressed. Some people are depressed because they use strong medications such as pain killers. Other people are depressed because they grief a loved one. Yet others are depressed because they lost their job and are not able to get by and feel bad about that. While some people are depressed because they have another physical illness such as thyroid problems. There are also people who have been abused or been through other forms of trauma who suffer with depression. We can also be depressed when we don't get enough sunshine or when we run short on certain vitamins, minerals or metals such as iron or zinc.

Suffering depression can be very complex and good doctors are essential to make sure that the right cause for your depression is found.

As for me i have a depressive illness. No matter what i do i have depressive bouts. Finding Jesus to help me has been of the greatest benefit. For for years i build my psyche with my depressive feelings and my daily reality was riddled with feelings of guilt, shame fear, hopelessness, despair, bitterness, disappointments, sadness, regrets, doubt and unbelief. i hated myself and my life, and even seriously sought to kill myself for a very long time for my depression was unbearable and i suffered intensely.

However then i realised that my depressive feelings always lie about everything and i realised also that my inner reality was build by those lies and that this was the reason i suffered so badly when my depression would fire. i was rock bottom in my pit because i heeded my depressive feelings and believed all the lies i heard in my mind because of that.

The bible taught me that lesson about depression. For it is written what a person sows will be what he reaps. i realised that i had not let God's word build my reality but that i had little faith in Jesus and had not experienced any help from Him because i had not listened to Him but to my doubt and unbelief thinking God hated me and i would end up in hell because of my many sins.

i realised that destructive forces were working in my heart and were robbing me of my good life but that things could be better if i learned to trust in Christ and have faith in His love for me and all. So that is what i did. i put my faith in God's love and began to battle my depressive thoughts and feelings with the truth of God's promises to me as one of His children and let His loving truth rebuild my psyche.

The results were amazing. For daily, as my faith in Jesus grew, the truths of the bible changed my thinking and gave me ammunition to fight my depressive thoughts and feelings. In just three years i learned to stand my ground against my depressive spells and keep my head above water no matter how depressed i was.

Sure God did not heal my depressive illness, but He did give me the ability to survive it and to turn my bad life into His good life. i will always love Him for having done that. It has given me so much more purpose and insight into His loving truth.

Now as for you Andrew. Please understand that faith is a gift of God, which only comes our way through hearing the word of God and heeding it. So when Scripture says God loves you then the trick is to believe that and then you will see for yourself what power such faith in God's has to make things well in your life.

Life with Jesus is good. Very much better than the bad life hurting you at the moment. The truth of God is very powerful and can rebuild you completely and renew your mind. Even if you turn out to have a depressive illness you do not need to be so lost and cut of from God's loving truth but can be united to Him through Christ's love over your life.

So yes do go and see a doctor and try medication and submit to test to see what could possibly be the cause of your depression. Many depressed depressed people find good support from medications and are able to live normal lives. But above all do put your faith in God's love and let his loving truth rebuild you and renew your mind and bring you hope. Simply ask God to guide you and fill your mind with His loving truth and let this empty you out of the bad life hurting you at the moment.

Peace.

Jesus rescues

When depression reigns
and all seems lost!
When regrets demand an ear
shame and guilt burn our hearts!

When loneliness attacks
and despair pounds!
When hopelessness compels
and the pit looms!

Then call upon Jesus
and let Him save you!
Then cling to His love
His grace will comfort you!

Then shelter underneath His wings
and find protection from bad life!
Then in His love there is safety
as we are made anew!

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