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Consider it is on multiple news sources and I don’t follow conspiracy theories
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Consider it is on multiple news sources and I don’t follow conspiracy theories
I wasn’t in Germany during WW2 but I can show you pictures of the holocaust.
And not from being there personally or from social media.
Are you saying they are lying about doxing? That they were not at Hannity’s home? Are they lying about putting up posters?
I don't think you're following what I'm getting at.
You are thinking incorrectly - I know what you are trying to get across
This is very reminiscent if Russia's 2015/2016 rage cycle. And it works. This is where exercising some skepticism is not a bad idea. Do you want to be contributing to that divisive cycle, or break it?
There are plenty on the left contributing to this cycle, do they want to break it? Do you? If you do, then you should be able to show where you have struck this much of a defense for the Right -
I think it's extremely likely that SmashRacismDC and AllOutDC are just Russian social media accounts designed to whip up a frenzy in the far left, so that the far right is whipped up into a frenzy because of what the left did, who gets whipped up because the right are raging, who get whipped up because the left is raging, ad nauseum.
While I appreciate your opinion and recognize is as a valid viewpoint - we think differently here.
Don't be part of that cycle.
In the very least, let's acknowledge that a photo of a poster with no context is not particularly strong evidence of anything.
I don't think you're following what I'm getting at.
You are thinking incorrectly - I know what you are trying to get across
There are plenty on the left contributing to this cycle, do they want to break it? Do you? If you do, then you should be able to show where you have struck this much of a defense for the Right -
While I appreciate your opinion and recognize is as a valid viewpoint - we think differently here.
When the photo of the poster came from the organizations own
website (as noted in the OP), and then the organization scrubs the image, it lends credence to the POV. In addition to the organizations own words, we have their actions, the confirmation from law enforcement and the people who they committed the terrorist act upon.
That isn't a conspiracy, that is what happened.
No, I don't believe you.
You have offered no facts to support it.
And as I have said a number of times, there is independent witnesses and sources that support it.
Have a great Day!
Here's the report on how the Russians operate. This is the evidence.
Exposing Russia’s Effort to Sow Discord Online: The Internet Research Agency and Advertisements | Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence
"Defendants also staged political rallies inside the United States, and while posing as U.S. grassroots entities and U.S. persons, and without revealing their Russian identities and ORGANIZATION affiliation, solicited and compensated real U.S. persons to promote or disparage candidates."
Approximately an hour before Carlson’s Fox News show aired on Wednesday evening, a leftist mob showed up at his home chanting threats such as, “Tucker Carlson we will fight, we know where you sleep at night!”
The leftists were also chanting, “No borders! No walls! No USA at all!”
They vandalized his home including spray painting his driveway and damaging the front door of his home.
Why is this brought up now?
Where does it show the two are connected?
Antifa is well known
Antifa is violent
Antifa destroys property
Antifa was for a while on the news consistently
Antifa says (not just social media) this is their tactics plans and they were there.
If you cannot recognize that, there is little we can discuss.
I have to disagree with you there, Free. I think there is a side that is definitely a bigger problem than the other.
Only one of the two "sides" feature someone who got behind the wheel of a Dodge Challenger and mowed down protestors. Only one of with white supremacists beating up black protestors in a Charlottesville parking garage, one with people chanting "Jews will not replace us", one putting children in concentration camps.
I don't disagree that "the left" is full of perfect angels who can do no wrong, but it's only one of the two sides that has made racial purity a centerpiece of its political goals...and it isn't ""the left"".
Ringo
I struggle with this. I honestly and earnestly think that the Right has taken things in a darker area (and not all of them, just a louder portion) and that darker place is much darker.
But by the same token I also want to create a defensible position and when debating with people for whom investment in their own personal bias REQUIRES moral equivalence between any two extremes it sometimes become necessary to grant that the same people who express love of vicious hategroups like neo-nazis who espouse the death of others may honestly be unable to see a difference when compared to a bunch of limp-wristed hippies screaming multisyllabic words at them.
But by the same token I also want to create a defensible position and when debating with people for whom investment in their own personal bias REQUIRES moral equivalence between any two extremes it sometimes become necessary to grant that the same people who express love of vicious hategroups like neo-nazis who espouse the death of others may honestly be unable to see a difference when compared to a bunch of limp-wristed hippies screaming multisyllabic words at them.
Where does it show the two are connected?
Antifa is well known
Antifa is violent
Antifa destroys property
Antifa was for a while on the news consistently
Antifa says (not just social media) this is their tactics plans and they were there.
If you cannot recognize that, there is little we can discuss.
To qualify their "violence": Assaults innocent bystanders that are vocal opponents of their ideologies.