Whole 30

JAM2b · Jun 23, 2019

Has anyone tried this? Is it worth buying the book?

I've been having all kinds of symptoms, some of them new, some have been chronic. When I was able to go to the doctor, they couldn't find very much wrong with me. Now I can't go at all for the time being. I've been thinking about trying an elimination diet to determine if something I'm eating is causing some of my issues, but I don't want to dive in until I'm certain about which suggestions to follow. I'm going at it alone, without medical supervision because there's been little interest there from doctors in the past, and I can't afford to now anyway.

bhsmte · Jun 24, 2019

There are a lot of fad diets out there and this appears to be one of them.

Fad diets dont work, because people cant adhere to them for any length of time and many are not healthy. I would engage a physician and one that has knowledge of nutrition and exercise, as some physicians, really lack this knowledge.

bèlla · Jul 5, 2019

The easiest way to do this without resorting to radical methods is to remove one item from your diet each week and maintain a food journal throughout. You need to track your reactions: physical, mental, emotional and pay attention to your energy levels and the symptoms which sparked your concern.

If you were seeing a physician you’d have to undergo a similar process. The data will give you a clear picture of the foods your body appreciates and those it doesn’t.

Visit Food Babe to see if you’re consuming something with hidden issues. She reports on this frequently. If you prefer a natural approach the Nourished Kitchen is an informative site as is Real Food (book) by Nina Planck.

You may also appreciate Weston Price’s work. I follow a French-based whole foods eating plan that was heavily influenced by his work. Good luck.

morse86 · Jul 13, 2019

Whole 30 is not biblical.

Bread is biblical, wheat is biblical. It's because all of the other chemicals. Store bought bread is full of fillers, chemicals, and glycophosphates & pesticides. Stick with organic bread (even that is sometimes full of gums).

Eat bread, eat plants, and eat meat....just not too much...eat according to your physical activity and somedays you can eat a bit more...consistent calorie balance.

Actually, if following the bible which advocates soul winning which involves physical labor, obesity would not be a problem.

Go Braves · Jul 13, 2019

Nope. Never tried it. My girlfriend lost 8 pounds in month doing it. She was already thin, just wanted to be skinnier for summer so that was a lot of weight for her. It was a tough diet to follow. She was in a different state while she was doing it so I didn't see the food myself. She just griped about it a lot. She was real pleased with the results though.

There's a whole community for the folks following this on Reddit. That's where she got her meal planning ideas.

bhsmte · Jul 15, 2019

morse86 said:
Whole 30 is not biblical.

Bread is biblical, wheat is biblical. It's because all of the other chemicals. Store bought bread is full of fillers, chemicals, and glycophosphates & pesticides. Stick with organic bread (even that is sometimes full of gums).

Eat bread, eat plants, and eat meat....just not too much...eat according to your physical activity and somedays you can eat a bit more...consistent calorie balance.

Actually, if following the bible which advocates soul winning which involves physical labor, obesity would not be a problem.

The physiology of the human body, doesnt work on your biblical interpretations.

OldWiseGuy · Nov 23, 2019

Humans have evolved to eat anything and everything that looks good to us, so enjoy. Of course we would never feed our pets this way as we love and care for them.

OldWiseGuy · Nov 23, 2019

bhsmte said:
The physiology of the human body, doesnt work on your biblical interpretations.

I'm guessing that the one who designed us knows what's best for us.

ThatRobGuy · Nov 26, 2019

OldWiseGuy said:
Humans have evolved to eat anything and everything that looks good to us, so enjoy. Of course we would never feed our pets this way as we love and care for them.

I believe the term I've heard used is "Opportunistic omnivores"...meaning, we can technically survive on diets that are sub-optimal and absorb some nutrients from it...enough to survive, but that's not necessarily an indicator of what we "should" be eating.

You have some species that are "steadfast" dieters (obligate herbivores, and obligate carnivores), however, for omnivorous mammals, such as ourselves, people often take "omnivore" to mean that you can eat whatever, plant or animal, and be healthy. There are varying forms of omnivorous-ness, for lack of a better term, in terms of what the ratio of animal foods

lant foods should be.

This can usually be determined by looking at the digestive system of the mammal in question, and seeing what they may eat in the wild.

If you look at our closest relative in the animal kingdom (Chimps), they're omnivores, but the ratio of plants:meat is 90:10. They have a slightly longer long intestine (breaking down plant roughage) and slightly shorter small intestine (used or breaking down animal fats).

Given that, it's reasonable to surmise that our ideal breakdown should be around 80:20 in terms of the plant:animal ratio.

There's also the fact that it's been proven that only herbivores and "plant-based omnivores" can develop atherosclerosis from consuming animal fats (which is a huge issue among present day humans) that's a strong indicator that we're not well-suited to be eating large amounts of meat.

OldWiseGuy · Nov 26, 2019

ThatRobGuy said:
I believe the term I've heard used is "Opportunistic omnivores"...meaning, we can technically survive on diets that are sub-optimal and absorb some nutrients from it...enough to survive, but that's not necessarily an indicator of what we "should" be eating.

You have some species that are "steadfast" dieters (obligate herbivores, and obligate carnivores), however, for omnivorous mammals, such as ourselves, people often take "omnivore" to mean that you can eat whatever, plant or animal, and be healthy. There are varying forms of omnivorous-ness, for lack of a better term, in terms of what the ratio of animal foodslant foods should be.

This can usually be determined by looking at the digestive system of the mammal in question, and seeing what they may eat in the wild.

If you look at our closest relative in the animal kingdom (Chimps), they're omnivores, but the ratio of plants:meat is 90:10. They have a slightly longer long intestine (breaking down plant roughage) and slightly shorter small intestine (used or breaking down animal fats).

Given that, it's reasonable to surmise that our ideal breakdown should be around 80:20 in terms of the plant:animal ratio.

There's also the fact that it's been proven that only herbivores and "plant-based omnivores" can develop atherosclerosis from consuming animal fats (which is a huge issue among present day humans) that's a strong indicator that we're not well-suited to be eating large amounts of meat.

The post you are responding to was meant to be tongue-in-cheek.

We were created to eat "things sown" but allowed later to eat flesh.

I believe many diseases result from overeating, and eating too many different foods rather than eating the wrong things.

ThatRobGuy · Nov 26, 2019

OldWiseGuy said:
The post you are responding to was meant to be tongue-in-cheek.

We were created to eat "things sown" but allowed later to eat flesh.

I believe many diseases result from overeating, and eating too many different foods rather than eating the wrong things.

I also learned that when you want to type : p, it shows up as

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Obviously most of the issues discussed are more prevalent when one is overweight vs. a healthy weight.

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